Do You Eat Beef?

[AzDar]

Poll question: Do You Eat Beef?

Given the recent spate of Mad-Cow Disease stories making the rounds, coupled with the knowledge that Bushco has let slide, drastically, oversight of the U.S. food supply, do you eat beef?

[Beaverhausen]

1. Haven't touched the stuff for over 20 years

so many reasons not to.

[seabeyond]

3. are you veg, or just beef. cause chicken and fish not much healthier

curious, not to be argumentative

[RadiationTherapy]

37. "healthy" chicken and fish (free range/ wild) are easier to find and cheaper

than grass fed free range beef.

[seabeyond]

51. well.... i have never heard of "healthy". lol. will have to see what i

can find out.

[RadiationTherapy]

57. Well, you don't have to laugh; out loud or otherwise.

I presume you are thinking that factory chickens are as "toxic" as factory cows; to my knowledge, this is true. However, there are "free range" and non-antibiotic/hormone chicken as well as beef. The prices for the "healthy" chicken are cheaper than the "healthy" beef.

If you are talking about the content of the food, beef is harder to digest (moves slowly through digestion and "rots" in there), has saturated fats (you don't need too much saturated animal fats in most diets), but has bioavailable iron and is a great source of protein. Chicken and fish are much easier to digest (for most); fish also has fats and oils that most need much more of in their diets. Lack of these "fish oils" have been related to bipolar disorders, autism and other brain/nerve issues.

I have nothing to say about pig; I am not aware of any nutritionally unique aspects of cooked pig meat.

[seabeyond]

60. you got it the first time

my laugh was nothing against what you posted. i really have not heard of non toxic hormone chicken. i thought it was something we were just having to suck up, along with everything else. i havent seen it. i will have to look

thanks

[AzDar]

2. I should add: My curiosity stems from the fact that I recently tried going beef -less after the

'downer cattle' video was making the rounds a few months back.
My family has protested this so forcefully that I've caved, and I feel incredibly guilty.
Wondering if I'm alone in my pathetic weakness..

[seabeyond]

5. i have switched to turkey meat in dishes i would normally use hamburger

kids only one making a deal and only one really is offended in the difference in flavor.

my problem is the fish is bothering me healthwise with chemicals/pollutants as much as possiblity in beef and chicken with all the hormone isnt terrific and i dont want too much of that either. but we are meat eaters.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

11. You know my wife and I were thinking of going that way but

ground Turkey includes many more parts than the beef.. Plus there is the money issue and it is a terrible substitute for meatloaf ;)

And I have to be careful with fish, Im not allergic to fish per se but some of the preservatives they throw on them at sea when they lack refrigeration can give me a wicked bad reaction.. (I think its sulfa based)

[seabeyond]

18. spag, taco ect... but that is a concern, where is the issue with turkey i dont know. veg & fruit

concern me too. where it comes from and disease, not to mention the way they produce, doesnt even look right and of course the pesticides.

to the point..... really

is there anything in our diet that doesnt have the potential for harm.

i go moderation, moderation, moderation, variation, exercise and chocolate. lol

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

23. Well turkey includes the entire bird beak brain and all

Ground beef, in theory, should not contain those parts. But I found turkey makes an excellent component for a past sauce and even in tacos. For some reason things like Burgers and Meatloaf just are not right w/out beef.

On fruits, you are absolutely right, when I first got married and the wife started washing veggies I had no clue as to why she was using something called 'fit' now I use the stuff religiously.

--

Im considering organic meats and some organic veggies (risky ones like Strawberries and potatoes). I miss Bananas (my youngest is allergic) they were a safe one, apples, oranges, are pretty safe if you wash them well..

[seabeyond]

24. ahhhhhhhh "entire bird beak brain and all". eeeewww. forget

eating this shit. this is horrible.


organic, my area, doesnt look good, expensive and not much choice.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

28. Yea I know what that is like

Only good organic store near me is a hike even if all else was equal the gas makes it hard..

Target superstores sell a hormone and antibiotic free meat but I dont think it qualifies as organic..

[RadiationTherapy]

70. He lied about the beaks and brains.

[AzDar]

35. Oh, Jeebus ... I did not realize those things were in ground turkey!

:puke:

I did, however, get an almost comedic reaction when I substituted turkey meatballs for beef.
Watching my Hubby and two sons pretend that they were enjoying them was ALMOST worth having to throw out a whole bag.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

38. I would imagine they are bad meatballs but ok as a meat sause

[seabeyond]

48. bh hahahah. really laughing out loud in kitchen. that is funny

your sons and hubby. lol

[RadiationTherapy]

58. Until a link or something is provided, I am a bit resistant to believing

that brain and beak and bullshit are ground in to ground turkey.

[GoneOffShore]

65. Don't be such a baby - Head for your local good Chinese restaurant

Order the squab and crunch down on the heads - eyes, brains and all.

Good eats as Alton Brown would say.

[RadiationTherapy]

43. I buy "good" ground turkey when I do buy it, but can you validate your claim?

beak? brain?

[RadiationTherapy]

66. I think this is bullshit. Can you show otherwise, please?

[seabeyond]

73. good. i know they say the same about hot dogs,but not true... stuff from

all over. though hot dogs aren't healthy, carcinogenic for whatever reason

but appreciate.

[MissMarple]

32. We eat quite a bit of bison. It's a good alternative to beef.

Ground buffalo burgers are pretty tasty. I can get some great prepackaged 6 oz. sirloin steaks at the grocery, and occasionally I cook a pot roast. What we buy here comes from Colorado herds. But I still buy locally raised, grass fed beef, just not nearly as much as I used to. I was raised on Kansas beef, but bison is so much lower in saturated fat.


This site has some good information. Click on "Meat" and "Education".
http://www.buffaloranchers.com

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

39. Hmm, I had never considered Bison

Thanks!

[MissMarple]

83. If you should give it a try, some cooks add an egg or two to the ground mixture...

for burgers or meatloaf. It helps keep it moist because the meat is so lean. An the added nutritional value usually trumps the added cholesterol. :)

[Blue_In_AK]

42. We eat that, too, sometimes.

[seabeyond]

49. our untied has started selling buffalo meat. havent heard anything about that

and i really dont know much

[mondo joe]

36. In some areas you can get ground chicken, in which the dark meat holds

up better to cooking in terms of moisture and taste.

[RadiationTherapy]

69. Aww. You're gonna edit and not reply to me?

http://www.eatturkey.com/consumer/60th/ground.html

don't bullshit.

[RadiationTherapy]

72. You are still lying.

ground turkey is light meat, dark meat, a bit of skin and fat.

[Dorian Gray]

44. I eat lots of fish

and it's hard to constantly be mindful of mercury. (Which I need to as I'm really trying to get pregnant, and I'm encountering difficulties.) And I also sub turkey for beef (I'm making Turkey burgers tonight!). To keep them moist, I add worcester sauce, a little egg, bread crumbs, and a drop of BEER! Yum. I only buy lean turkey.

But, I do enjoy a good steak every once in awhile, or fajitas with steak. I try to get Fliet Mignon, one of the leaner meats. And every once in awhile, I love Lamb Chops. Yum. (I probably get those twice a year!)

[seabeyond]

52. good idea with the turkey meat. now i have to see if i can get brain and beak free

but the worcesterchire would darken the meat a little making look more hamburger, anyway, lol.

my oldest i swear though we cant get any proof of factual info, ... is sensitive to mercury. hadnt even thought about it but changed diet to more fish. then started seeing son react in a regressive manner to autism type behavior, that is a whole part of another argument, not getting into, but then.... i went to research exactly the fish that was ok to eat, .... wow. still havet figured it out. so much contaminated.

i would stay away from fish (tuna anyway) preg. they even say today, ... no tuna for preg women. sorry

[Dorian Gray]

56. I know tuna

is really heavy in mercury. I eat a lot of salmon, sardines and mackeral, all of which is healthy. (And loaded with Omega 3s) I think that snapper and sea bass (but not Chilean sea bass) are safe to eat, too. Grouper? Not sure. Tilapia is good. I like all those fish a lot, so I'm pretty good to go.

And I eat shell fish sometimes, too. Shrimp or Clams are pretty healthy, though too much is high in cholesterol. (Though not as high as steak!)

[seabeyond]

63. tilapia is god. haev a wonderful recipe. but surprised seeing cod and orange roughy high

in mercury. my son had had some, and started with the fuzzy brain, looked it up, was high, cod. didnt know. i like roughy. salmon we eat a lot. so that is ok, good to know. and have never had mackeral.

[seabeyond]

75. good, not god. a fish is not god. but can be good, wink. n/t

[RadiationTherapy]

67. the "beaks and brains" in ground turkey is bullshit

until proven otherwise.

[RadiationTherapy]

68. I know this is from the turkey sellers, but

http://www.eatturkey.com/consumer/60th/ground.html

there are no beaks and brains in your ground turkey.

[seabeyond]

74. ty

cause i really like using it in some things. now.... if i can figure tofu and how to slip that in.

[alfredo]

54. It might already be too late for you and countless millions.

Symptoms may take decades to show.

[hyphenate]

4. I didn't have beef

for over 10 years, not because of health concerns, but as an animal welfare activist.

I still very, very rarely eat it, at the most about twice a month. I completely dislike it in any way rare, though, and only eat it if it's well cooked.

I have a limited amount of any kind of meat at any rate, with chicken the main dietary protein. If I could afford it, I would eat far more fish, but as I hate it deep-fried, I don't have it out very often, and only have frozen shrimp and canned tuna on hand.

I don't have a great diet, but beef isn't one of my choices, regardless. :)

[mainegreen]

6. Yes, but my beef comes from up the road.

I've seen the cows. They eat grass. They breed more cows. Those cows eat grass.
They go to the butcher two towns over.

I eat those cows.

I don't eat mystery cow.

[Cant trust em]

8. Locally grown food always tastes better. NT

[notesdev]

17. Mystery Cow!

Must be from Canada...

[mainegreen]

30. bwahahaha

I love that.

I'm stealing it.

[seabeyond]

22. we split side with a friend.... up the road, too. n/t

[hootinholler]

53. I eat them pigs too...

I have the good fortune to live near enough two different small local butchers. One has a holding pen out back, and the other doesn't but gets all their meat and poultry (and eggs) from local Mennonite farms. I don't think an animal has traveled more than 20 miles to either of them.

The one that sources from the Mennonite farms is a family operation and has ribbons from county and state fairs lining the entire top of the walls in their shop going back to 1910 or so. Man, I gotta go get some beef sticks (think of a slim-jim that isn't greasy) this weekend, they kick ass. Oh, yeah, sausage! Real sage sausage, or maybe some apple links.

Shit I'm hungry now, lol.

-Hoot

[Cant trust em]

7. Don't forget environmental reasons

It's a tremendous drain on resources to raise beef. It takes something like 12 pounds of grain to raise 1 pound of beef. You have to grow the grain, and give the cows water to drink. Plus their emissions, for lack of a better word, are air pollutants.

[noamnety]

9. other

I voted, but the real answer is I reduced it drastically partly because of health concerns, but even more because of the environmental impact. Where we used to have meat at almost every dinner, now it's maybe 2-3 times a week, and smaller cuts, like a little added to stir fry if I'm not doing tofu or just veggies. I'm trying to use it more like a condiment, less like a main course.

[RB TexLa]

10. Many times with nothing else.

[Orsino]

12. I've cut way back in recent years.

Not eating a lot of any meat.

[KansDem]

21. I have too...

I mostly eat veggie-"meat" but will have a small steak on the weekends that I've gotten from Whole Foods or Wild Oats.

[kenny blankenship]

13. I haven't eaten any beef since Bush poleaxed democracy and slaughtered the Constitution

Don't know if I'll ever go back either.

[taught_me_patience]

14. Certainly do

but had to cut back when I found out my cholesterol was borderline and I'm only 30yo.

[DS1]

15. not nearly as often as I used to

mostly because I don't cook my own food as much

[fascisthunter]

16. Yes...

What was your question again?

[buff2]

19. I have a beef roast on right now

with potatoes,carrots and special seasoning. Dinner rolls and tossed salad. Mmmmmm. :9 :7

[Seeking Serenity]

31. I'm comin' to your house for dinner.

yum, yum.

[unpossibles]

20. other than a couple of years off the wagon in the mid-90's

I first went vegetarian in 1989.

The recent developments about the effects of beef and pork on the environment and on health have basically just made me feel better about doing so.

[flvegan]

25. No.

But that might've been obvious, considering.

[pansypoo53219]

26. i won't eat fast food beef or supermarket beef,

but my butcher has great beef. but prefer pork. or chicken.

[LeftyMom]

27. Nope. Not a corpse muncher. nt

[Beausoleil]

29. Love it.

I just don't eat as much as I used to. I hardly ever eat hamburger. Usually lean sirloin or rump roast, sometimes a ribeye or t-bone. I love to smoke (lean) brisket.

[mondo joe]

33. Only a few times a year, but at those times I go for grass fed organic.

[avenger64]

34. 4 years clean back in December ....

.... Beef production is gasoline-intensive, grain-intensive, and destroys the land through soil erosion. I haven't missed it a bit.

[Blue_In_AK]

40. Very, very rarely,

like a pot roast or something, maybe ground beef in spaghetti sauce, or prime beef at Christmas. We do steaks on the grill maybe two or three times during the summer. Mostly it's chicken and fish that we've caught around here.

[Dorian Gray]

41. I eat it, but

within reason, as it's not the healthiest food for you. (I have red meat once or twice a month.)

I don't have any ethical problem with eating beef. I prefer to buy Kosher or Organic, though.

[RadiationTherapy]

45. I haven't eaten cow in 10 years.

I also do not eat pig.

Enough with this "beef" and "pork" bullshit.

[Eurobabe]

46. You should have added yes, but only if it is ORGANIC

:hi:

[niyad]

47. haven't eaten much beef in years. don't really like it--and, with an

antibiotic allergy that nearly killed me, don't take chances.

[Mountainman]

50. I became a vegetarian in 1994.

Haven't ate anything that had a mother since.

[Fox Mulder]

55. Yes, but I really don't want to.

But it's so damn good. I wish there was a better alternative...

[kath]

59. I won't touch ground beef from the store or restaurants OR anything that has ground-up beef in it

such as hot dogs, sausages (will eat sausages made of pork, chicken, etc, but if there's ANY beef in it, that's a deal-breaker), pepperoni. Beef stock and gelatin make me very nervous, but gelatin can be hard to avoid (it's in many flavored yogurts and other stuff).


I will buy whole cuts of beef, preferably boneless. We occasionally will buy a piece of chuck or round and grind it ourselves with our KitchenAid mixer w/ grinder attachment. I've been craving a grilled hamburger lately, so we may do this this weekend.

My family thinks I'm being overly paranoid, but those pictures in med school of what prion diseases do to the brain still haunt me... :scared: :scared: :scared:

[Phoonzang]

61. Interesting that most of the responses are yes but

the majority of the people responding in the thread say no.

[aikoaiko]

62. Copious amounts.

sizzle.... yum yum.

[GoneOffShore]

64. Grass fed - locally raised

Humanely killed.

Same with lamb, beef, pork, chickens, duck and goose foie gras.

And no, they don't nail the ducks feet to the floor. I've been on farms where they raise ducks and geese for foie gras and the animals will come right up and wait their turn.

[Fireweed247]

71. Is Beef responsible for the "Mad American Disease"

I don't actually trust anything in our food supply these days.

[MrSlayer]

76. Oh yes, I love beef.

I don't care about mad cow or any of that shit because I only buy the best, organic beef. You will never catch me eating mass produced B grade supermarket shit.

[AZ Criminal JD]

77. Could you make your question any more loaded?

[Edweird]

78. Need that diesel power and nothing else does it.

My work and sometimes my life depends on it.

[Earth_First]

79. Once or twice a month, sometimes never a month... n/t

[Canuckistanian]

80. Did someone say beef?

[LWolf]

81. Other: Yes, I eat beef.

Not much, but a little. I like to get it straight off local ranches, grass-fed, when I can.

Edited to add: As far as red meat goes, I prefer buffalo when I can get it.

[OhioChick]

82. Nothing like a T-Bone.

With lettuce, cantaloupes and everything under the sun being recalled for various reasons....what is actually safe to eat these days?

[conflictgirl]

84. Not me

I was an on-again off-again vegetarian from about 1992-2005, then I went completely vegetarian. My job reporting on the food industry has significantly altered my food consumption choices. I do agree with the people who say that almost every food has risks (thanks largely to Bush and the decline in inspections and standards he's created) but based on all I've seen in the past couple years of studying this, two foods consistently come out as the most dangerous: beef, and imports from China. I can't afford beef that I think is better (grass-fed, organic, local small farm, etc.) so I don't eat it at all. I added a bit of poultry back into my diet in the past month or so because my health was starting to take a toll from being completely vegetarian, but it's hard to imagine eating beef again. I've honestly come to see eating beef as fairly equivalent to driving an SUV in terms of degree of wastefulness and environmental impact, so it's hard to justify. If there were affordable, reasonably safe options I might consider eating it on rare occasions, but because that's not the case for me it's not something I'll consider at this point.

[robcon]

85. I love to eat meat. My cholesterol is under control.

n/t

[Blarch]

86. I haven't touched it in many many years

No pork or chicken either, just fish.

You couldn't pay me to eat beef, it's fucking posioned.

[JerseygirlCT]

87. I've never particularly liked red meat anyway, so it's been easy to

do without.

But mainly I do without because my gut is much happier without it. I have trouble digesting it all.

Poultry I can manage, and seafood. The rest? No thanks.

And I too use ground turkey in lots of things: sauce, tacos, burgers... it works just fine!

[bigwillq]

88. Yes (nt)

[Toasterlad]

89. Yes! It's What's For Dinner!

Just finished a bowl of delicious Mexican beef stew:

2 lbs stewing beef
1 28 oz can diced tomatoes (undrained)
1 cup frozen pearl onions
1 tsp chili powder
1 16 oz can black beans (drained)
1 can Mexicorn (drained)
1 packet taco seasoning mix

Combine beef, tomatoes, onions, & chili powder in a crock pot, cover and cook on low heat for 9-11 hours.

Add beans, corn, and taco mix, stir, and cook on high for an additional 15-30 minutes.

So F-ing good!

:bounce: