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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:01 PM
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Congress is selling us out. That is my take on these useless hearings.
Not one good question. Not one follow up question. Biden has his arms around these two shills for the Bush Administration at the end. I am disgusted. They talk in government/military double speak and no one asks them to translate it into language the average American can understand. We are paying the bills for this, after all. Really, there is just too much kiss up here and I'm afraid we'll be in it with Iran in no time. As far as I could tell, no one really followed up on reconstruction of Iraq, no one really followed up on the effective training of Iraqi troops, no one followed up on what "success" means in Iraq. The questions seemed scripted and they let these guys off. My bottom line is that we are really lead by the nose by the military...boys in the sandbox (and some girls too).

Ps. I know there were a very few shining examples to the contrary but Biden's last hug really frosted me. These people shilling for Bush's war should be shunned.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:04 PM
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1. Oh, come on now. They will bitch and moan and gripe and carry on
about how this illegal immoral war is bankrupting us and making us less safe just before they vote to fund it AGAIN.
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amihol Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:19 PM
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11. Revolution is an answer?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:06 PM
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2. Biden hugged those two AFTER ripping them new ones.
What is your problem?

The SFRC gave these guys NOTHING. They asked tough questions and held their feet to the fire.

You want to complain, complain about the SAFC hearing this morning. THAT was limp!


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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:11 PM
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4. Sorry, as far as I could tell, we came out with NOTHING but a hug. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:14 PM
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8. Okay -- we'll just have to disagree on this. nt
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:10 PM
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3. We hope you all enjoyed the show...
It is, after all, entertainment right? You really didn't expect anything of substance to come of the dog and pony show, did you? Now, stfu and get back to self medicating / numbing yourself!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:12 PM
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5. Excuse me, are you talking to me?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:12 PM
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6. bu$h* is gonna walk away from this war and congress is helping him
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:14 PM
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9. I guess we're in the minority here...never criticize our beloved Dem
icons, never. Webb was better on Tweety than he was in direct questioning. What is the matter with these people!!!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:09 PM
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18. I'm with you Raven
It's all a show.
After the hearings...they all go to the Beltway Boys Club and smoke cigars and break bread together.
Opposition party? My ass.:kick:
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:45 PM
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22. Sick of this shit!
Don't any of these people give a damn about the million innocent Iraqis that have been killed? My gawd- what is wrong with them? They are not human?!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:13 PM
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7. Don't put your faith or hope or even your dreams in their care
It took me a while to figure it out, but they DO NOT WORK FOR US. That's just what they tell us to win our votes. The whole mechanism of our government is corrupted.

One day, and I hope to live to see it, government will fear the people again.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:15 PM
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10. All part of the Dog and Pony Show
It is sickening, I agree!

When one looks into PNAC and realizes they have had these plans for quite some time, it isn't far fetched to think that perhaps the "opposition" was actually planted in advance for these purposes.
This is why it is my belief that the only way to take back our country is to replace the US Congress with real Americans who care about the Constitution and human life in general.
www.peacecandidates.com
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:21 PM
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12. you are one smart gal, Raven
yes INDEED
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:23 PM
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13. K&R. I was bummed, too. And I totally agree with your analysis... :-(
Though I guess that I missed the end, since I thought that Biden asked the toughest questions, early on...:shrug:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:35 PM
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14. In a way, Congress can't really sell us out, since they don't work for us in the first place.
They work for the Overclass; the military/corporatist/financial complex which is the true Ruling Power in this country.

They are aware, of course, that they need to mount something of show to keep the general populace conned and/or sedated and/or too confused or demoralized to mount any effective offensive against the Ruling Powers. In this, they are singularly talented.

sw
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:37 PM
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15. I see these hearings as one long commercial for Bush's war.
Brought to you by the cable companies owned by the defense contractors and their near relations.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:15 PM
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19. exactly
And the more I think about it, the more it obvious it becomes just how responsible the corporate media is for this mess. Even after all of the lies, the overwhelming majority against the war, they are still pretending we like it. They are still pushing for Iran, and for Condi to become VP. We are in very sorry shape!! Someone needs to hold the media accountable, like with a class action suit. If we take their cash, they might start listening.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:49 PM
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16. I hate to reply to my own thread but... how about if someone ( one of the candidates?)
said: "General, pretend this is a new administration...pretend that the new President told you to come up with a plan for safe withdrawal ASAP...pretend you were working for the people...what would your plan be for a safe and swift withdrawal from a country that we can't afford to be in and shouldn't have been in in the first place? I'm sure that if the President asked, you could come up with something, probably better than we have now."

That is what I would ask and I wouldn't cisy up to these folks after the hearing. Damn!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:54 PM
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17. bu$h* & congress realize only a relatively few people pay attention to these hearings
most people see the headline and go on with their lives...it's really a fucking shame
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:17 PM
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20. I wanted to watch it and report it however that being said
We know they will do the same shit they always do and give them money for their grotesque war..

I hope they prove me wrong, but they do that so seldom, that I'm batting 925
on what they do
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:49 PM
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21. They are useless hearings. And it's been 8 years of a farce, a sham

Especially the Senate. One big giant club where they all pretend to protest but behind doors they've made big bad deals and given the BFEE absolutely everything it has asked for and more.

There is absolutely no excuse for this murder, this criminal illegal theft of our tax dollars to make them all rich and fat and obliged to the corporate masters. Every one of them should be voted out of office. Every one.

:grr:

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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:20 AM
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23. when have they not been? nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:57 AM
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24. It's all a big scam. This Congress is the most useless that's ever
sat on their asses on the taxpayer's dime.
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