Report on Iraq to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs >> Starting Now

[sabra]

http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/hearing_notice.asp?id=965

Full Committee
Howard L. Berman (D-CA), Chairman
You are respectfully requested to attend the following OPEN hearing of the Full Committee, to be held in Room 2172 of the Rayburn House Office Building .
Date:
Wednesday, April 09, 2008
Time:
1:30 PM
Subject:
Report on Iraq to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs
witnesses:
General David H. Petraeus
Commanding General
Multi-National Force – Iraq
U.S. Department of Defense

The Honorable Ryan C. Crocker
United States Ambassador to Iraq
U.S. Department of State

CSPAN3 LINK: http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan3v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx

[bdamomma]

1. thanks. Wexler is on this committee and Barbara Lee.

and Delahunt. ought to be good.

[sabra]

2. it will be lively

[sabra]

3. Crocker giving his respects to the late Tom Lantos

[bdamomma]

4. not related but the way people are out in streets for the Olympic

torch, it should be like that to end this invasion.

[pberq]

5. Yes, it is related. We should not be having this conversation

We are participating in a 5-year war crime

[bdamomma]

8. same story given by Petreaus and Crocker to this committee

like yesterday, all these hearings is anything being accomplished?

[sabra]

6. Crocker: how we leave will be more important that how we got there...

:eyes:

[spanone]

7. i don't think so mr crocker....i don't think so

[bdamomma]

11. as I posted before, all these hearings is anything being

accomplished or we are going to see more dead and wounded soldiers, so disgusting that this invasion is still going on illegally with no accountability of those who conducted this neo con wet dream.

[SpiralHawk]

17. We got there with republicon homelander lies...

What is, um, a, um, a, um um um, er, a, um, Crock-O suggesting?

[sabra]

9. Petraeus for nth time: There's an uneven progress in Iraq

[bdamomma]

13. they have been saying "uneven" since this invasion started.

anyone watch Keith last nite, when he went over this.

[sabra]

10. Bingo! Petraeus used the phrase "sons of Iraq"

[sabra]

15. used "sons of Iraq" 3 more times - sounds much better than Sunni militia members

[sabra]

16. AQI used about 10 times already...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

22. Yesterday he said that there were only about 2000 AQI. In a country of how many million?

[Subdivisions]

29. What the hell is "sons of Iraq"? n/t

[sabra]

48. the Bush PR approved term for US backed Sunni militias (that have US blood on their hands)

and also despise the Shiite gov't

[Subdivisions]

53. I wonder why the need to say it over and over and over in this hearing? n/t

[sabra]

54. because former Sunni insurgents wouldn't sound so "romantic"

[sabra]

51. 4 more "sons of Iraq" mentioned

[pberq]

12. I thought Chairman Berman asked these guys to summarize

More of the same ad nauseum

[bdamomma]

14. muting petreaus for now.

[spanone]

18. between crocker & petreaus, there will be no time left for questions

[sabra]

19. this is the 3rd time we have to hear this shtick...

[bdamomma]

20. maybe that is what their game plan is.

is this Committee has good as the Senate Foreign Relations committee, I want some grilling!!!

[pberq]

21. Berman is up - American people will decide

[bdamomma]

27. the American people will decide???

our opinion means nothing to these jerks, is it pitchforks and torches time yet?

[spanone]

23. just as questioning begins....streaming goes dead

and i can't even access the cspan website OKAY back up now!~!!!

[bdamomma]

24. listening now

[Subdivisions]

25. Very heavily loaded with references to Iran's meddling...

Remember what boosh said while addressing a joint session of Congress following September 11, 2001:

...

And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010920-8.html

...

Now the Iran rhetoric is ratcheting up. Will he attack Iran?

[sabra]

26. Petraeus: we eventually will get to Sadr City...

huh?

[sabra]

28. says the Sadr movement is a legitimate organization

[bdamomma]

30. more ethic cleansing of another area.

oh, a repig.

[bobthedrummer]

31. BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN...

[Subdivisions]

33. Uhhhh, yep! Stand by for Tactical Nuclear Shock and Awe soon. n/t

[bdamomma]

35. I guess there is no such as diplomatic talking anymore with

these countries. sickening.

[bobthedrummer]

41. "preemptive war as policy", thats what The United States of America has fought against....

:patriot:

[sabra]

32. some Repub reading a WSJ editorial praising Bush's "surge" - it will go down in history

[spanone]

34. here goes a HUGH softball to petreaus......

will a precipitous withdraw harm our work in iraq???

now he's gonna allow crocker to diffuse the 'iraq has 30 billion in the bank' story

[sabra]

37. who came up with this "precipitous" phrase? I find it nauseating

[bdamomma]

52. the repigs have worn out that word, precipitous.

[bobthedrummer]

36. Thanks for starting this sabra! Needs some recs. Are you going to start other threads for this?

[sabra]

38. no prob - any one can continue a second thread (maybe 100 post threshold)?

[spanone]

39. this 5 minute crap allows for no real dialogue whatsoever

i understand there are a lot of congresscritters but.....

[pberq]

40. rep. Ackerman - D

"We seem to have gotten ourselves into a fix, and we don't know how to get ourselves out of it?

[spanone]

42. great question...how do you know we've won

[sabra]

44. Crocker babbling now - trying to come up with something

[bobthedrummer]

55. God in heaven-this man represents The United States of America uhhhhhh

and he taught at the National War College ehhhhhh... uuuhhhmmmm and he was Ambassador to PAKISTAN from November 2004-March 2007 eeerrrrr......

[spanone]

46. crocker...uh uh....uh uh.....we don't have a fucking clue (paraphrasing)

[spanone]

49. since when did our soldiers dying become completely partisan???

[pberq]

47. Crocker trying to answer Ackerman

What a joke!!!

He has no idea when it's going to be over.

[bobthedrummer]

43. Ryan Crocker profile from Source Watch (unbelievable)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ryan_Crocker

[bdamomma]

45. there is no winning.

just dead and wounded troops and numbers of innocent Iraqis getting killed. This whole thing is immoral, again this is a WAR CRIME.

[bdamomma]

50. oh stop with the thanking huh?

[spanone]

56. where's condi ? secretary of state....remember her?

[pberq]

57. Donald Payne up

"Early and staunch opponent to the war."

Go!! Go!!

[Supersedeas]

90. so many shoes...so little time...just enough time to delegate and blame others

[bobthedrummer]

58. THANK YOU REP. PAYNE!

[Subdivisions]

59. Seconded! n/t

[spanone]

60. lost my cspan connection....what did he say?

[Subdivisions]

62. Said every last thing we've been told regarding Iraq has been wrong.

[spanone]

63. thanks!!! go rep payne

[bobthedrummer]

67. He's from New York--he included 9/11!!!!

[pberq]

61. Rep. Payne

Quoting OBL "We will win this war by bankrupting America"

Asking how do we continue to pay for this war?

[bdamomma]

64. the muhajadeen in Afghanistan did it to Russia took down the country

it has happened to us, and OBL is laughing at all of us.

[pberq]

65. Crocker acting very nervous

Can't answer Rep. Payne's question

[bobthedrummer]

66. The Human Cost of the War in Iraq: A Mortality Study 2002-2006

MIT/John Hopkins (pdf)
http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/reports/human-cost-war-101106.pdf

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

68. Al Qaeda with Iran's help!!!!!! Unfrigging believable!!!!!!

[bdamomma]

74. doesn't Iran hate Al Qaeda.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

That's why I screamed this outloud here before!!!! Al Qaeda=Sunni, Iran=Shiite...

:grr:

[sabra]

69. Rep Burton: If we leave the terrorists win

[bdamomma]

70. this is so much BS, how much more BS are we going to hear.

this country our country is going down due to this invasion. what don't they get? all this ideological crap of *, this has to stop.

[spanone]

71. burton is an evil bullshit king

[pberq]

72. Brad Sherman up

Iran has been the prime beneficiary of the Iraq war

[bobthedrummer]

73. delete

[pberq]

77. Rohrbacher - make the Iraqis pay

[spanone]

75. ya know, they should be asking bu$h* these questions

[sabra]

76. why are they attacking Crocker - this is Bush's plan...

[pberq]

83. Bush won't appear before this committee

[sabra]

Rohrabacher thanks Petraeus for killing the terrorists - so they don't kill his family

:wtf:

[sabra]

81. Rohrabacher blaming the Iraqis for their woes...

[spanone]

78. thank you for killing.......jesus some sick fucks

[sabra]

79. the man is insane!

[spanone]

82. they don't care how many die as long as the iraqis pay for it?

[bdamomma]

86. walking lockstep over the cliff with this despicable bush regime we have.

[bdamomma]

80. oh, I can't listen to this BS anymore

those getting killed are Iraqis who want us out, they are only protecting their land would we do the same thing??? or am I dreaming again, that we would do the same thing protect our country from occupiers or those who were appointed by the Supreme Court?

[Subdivisions]

87. Sure? Wexler's up. n/t

[bdamomma]

89. I came back to listen to Wexler.

Crocker and Petreaus with an answer that they volunteered. Fuck these guys. really.

oh Petreaus shut the eff up, huh, just a tool of bushie.

[spanone]

84. what the fuck about the 'sons of america'?

[sabra]

85. WEXLER UP!!!

[pberq]

88. Wexler is up!!

Asked Americans to pose questions.

Majority of responses expressed a strong desire to see the troops brought home.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

91. Wexler "for what" did they die for... I love Wexler, he's my Mom's Congressman.

[sabra]

92. Petraeus: we are fighting for national interests (oil?)

[bdamomma]

96. exactly bush's special national interests.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

93. Betrayus is shameless...Al Qaeda...that's all he frigging says

[bdamomma]

109. sounds like his boss Bush

Al Qaeda :puke:

[Subdivisions]

94. That won't work, Patraeus. That was lame as hell!

Everything he's saying WAS CAUSED by US..the United States invasion of Iraq!!!

[Subdivisions]

98. NO FOLLOW UP??? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIES?!!!11!

[sabra]

100. no time :-(

[Subdivisions]

108. I'm sick and goddamned tired of the discussion of this farce

having to take place in five minute installments.

I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF THEY HAVE TO SIT THERE UNTIL 2 O'CLOCK IN THE FUCKING MORNING!!!1!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

102. That blew me away that he didn't even attempt to follow-up and ignore the time thing.

[spanone]

95. this country has NEVER been at peace with itself (iraq)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

99. And it was an artificially created country, created by England. Boy did they do a

great job. :sarcasm:

[sabra]

97. Petraeus takes a big gulp of water - Wexler nailed it!

[Subdivisions]

104. Sabra, could you please start another thread? Thanks! =) n/t

[bobthedrummer]

105. seconded

[2tr4nqued]

101. Iraq is not yours.

Get out.

[Subdivisions]

103. Hearing now on CSPAN. n/t

[sabra]

106. thread 2 here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3132369

[spanone]

107. now, back to iran and comparing it to lebanon.....