This Torch Run is Unbelievable.

[tekisui]

Avoiding protesters with fascist boot thugs.

Homeland Security is even on the torch.

In China, the official Chinese News doesn't report the protests or publish images of trouble.

In America, they bring in the troops to march the damn thing on a surprise route. Unbelievable.

[Kitty Herder]

1. This makes the torch a symbol of oppression rather than unity. nt

[tekisui]

2. Yes it does. United in Oppresion.

[hisownpetard]

8. Exactly! Like, umm, someone seems to be missing the point here...

:thumbsdown: :nuke:

[Winterblues]

14. Who created the Torch and what was their motive?

Do you know? .....just in case you do not know it was Adolf Hitler the king of oppression

[Vilis Veritas]

19. Always was a symbol of oppression

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7330949.stm

[n2doc]

37. Yep.

[librechik]

3. gotta do what it takes to protect the Orwellian Torch of Peace

I mean the Olympic ... never mind. I was right the first time

[aikoaiko]

4. I'm glad to see the torch run -- it has nothing to do with China's policies

[spanone]

9. .

[girl gone mad]

5. what a colossal..

display of cowardice, not to mention the waste of resources.

[Chipper Chat]

6. What do Bush, McCain, and the Torch all have in common?

They have to "bring in the troops to march the damn thing(s) on a surprise route."
YOU NAILED IT (HEAD OF NAIL MEET HAMMER)

[elehhhhna]

30. Yep, sounds like the Bush inauguration

[spanone]

7. why don't they run the torch and let people protest and get it over with

by moving the route they (whoever they are) are telling the world there would be violence otherwise

[tekisui]

10. Be afraid.....

That is the only message they wish to send.

[aikoaiko]

12. the protesters actually stopped the bus from making progress -- if so then I undertand the changes

One should be able to celebrate the Olympics in America without protesters stopping you. Yes, protest, but don't infringe on others' freedom to express.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

18. Too much hassle, too much bad press

Protesters would block the path, so TV would send images of water cannons, tear gas, body-dragging arrests. There would be violence, mostly done by cops and other security folks.

I think "the authorities" really want to get that torch from a starting point to an ending point, then get it the hell out of town. It's not a celebration this time, it's a bad show.

[MonkeyFunk]

22. to minimize the possibility of violence

It's bad enough as it is.

[slowry]

11. Screen capture, for anyone not watching:

Happy happy, joy joy.

[tekisui]

15. The 2008 Fascist Olympics.....

[Kajsa]

13. It's a shame that the IOC picked

Beijing to host this summer's games.

Given China's government's involvement with the crisis in Darfur
and Tibet it's little wonder protesters are coming out in droves,
everywhere the torch appears.


No, it's not suppose to be about politics, BUT Communist China's
attempt to show the world a tolerant and open minded profile just
isn't working- we know too much.

[tekisui]

16. I wonder what the Totalitarian Games will look like.

And how the Chinese will deal with foreign protesters in their country.

[Kajsa]

21. Tekisui, I've wondered the same thing.

How in the hell are they going to handle foreign protesters
in China and will we even find out about it? ( if there are problems)

:shrug:

[BlooInBloo]

17. Hershel Walker wants to try out his MMA skills on any protestors that attack him...

... And while I'm not "Fucking who care what fucking rich fucking crybaby athletes say" like most DUers, he is a jackass about this issue. Tho it stems from his support of the the Olympic athletes, he takes it way too far.

[spanone]

20. by changing the route it appears they may have created more craziness

[BlooInBloo]

23. That's just stupid - getting into a hitech-communication battle with SFers. Good luck winning that.

[spanone]

34. huh?

[BlooInBloo]

36. Changing the route is a challenge to the protesters to find it. When 1 dude finds it...

... he's gotta communicate the info to the rest of the mob somehow. At instant mass communication is SF people's forte (inventors of the flash mob and what-not).

[spanone]

40. agreed, thanks

[ronnykmarshall]

24. Uh, one of my best friends is an SF Sheriff Dept

She is not a fascist boot thug.

:grr:

[tekisui]

28. Alright. Fascist Boot Thugs minus one.

:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

29. Ok THEN!

:hi:

[elizfeelinggreat]

25. I guess that torch needs a "free speech zone" ...

I wonder who's paying for all that security?

[BlooInBloo]

26. It's also so wonderful listening to the authoritarian press talk about...

... how the protesters are ruining the spirit of the games.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

27. I wonder too. Who is paying for this security?

[ronnykmarshall]

32. City of SF probably.

Overtime for SFPD and SFSD. I'm pretty sure my friend who's a deputy w/ the SFSD is getting OT for this. The SFSD normally only works in the jails, courtroom and city hall. If they have to be called out to work on the streets they get OT because someone had to cover their normal shifts.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

31. Just got in from the non-event --

I've been down at the ballpark since 11:30am and just got in -- I cannot believe what a clusterfuck this was!! :mad:

We had no idea what was going on -- there were no announcements made, we were just left in the dark. Some of the people had been there since 6:00am to see this event and they were upset and disappointed that we were getting stiffed like this. We only figured out it was not going to happen when all the cops and cop cars started moving away from the ballpark.

{b]There was NO damn reason to move the route!!! :mad: :mad:

Yes there were a lot of people, yes things got a bit heated at times between the two camps, but the police presence was heavy and I have no doubt the City could have handled the protest just fine.

This is just sooo goddamn fucked -- I cannot wait to see who pulled the plug on this, or if this was the plan from the start. :mad: :mad:

[Kajsa]

43. Thanks for the update, HHNF.

This is a mess, that's for sure.

[malaise]

33. DId you know that the last head of the IOC ,Samarach,

was a good loyal fascist for Franco.

[tekisui]

35. I didn't, I do know.

Not a surprise, really.

[malaise]

38. Some links

http://www.transparencyinsport.org/andrew.html

http://www.playthegame.org/Knowledge%20Bank/Authors/Andrew%20Jennings.aspx

Lots of great articles in the Knowledge Bank.
Start with these two.
Organised Crime and the Olympics

Sport, Lies and Stasi-Files - A Golden Opportunity for the Press

I have all of Andrew's books. The IOC tried to have Lords of the Rings banned and FIFA tried to have FOUL banned.

[tekisui]

39. Closing ceremonies for the torch run canceled.

[BlooInBloo]

41. Protesters win!

[tekisui]

42. Power to the People!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: