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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:12 PM
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Has the Presidents power to pardon ever been challenged?
Can it be withdrawn?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:14 PM
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1. Yes, with no success. It's cut and dried--they can do it.
Who here remembers the hue and cry over Clinton with Marc Rich?

Who here remembers the hue and cry over Bush with Cap Weinberger?

It all goes nowhere.

Scooter will get his, make no mistake. Not just the commutation, but the full Monty.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:18 PM
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2. its in the constitution. so no, it can't be "withdrawn" (absent constitutiona amendment)
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 06:18 PM by onenote
Article II, section 2:

{the president] shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:25 PM
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4. Does it apply to international law?
These people cannot go unpunished. I say we ship em to France.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:20 PM
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3. No, and no. n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:27 PM
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5. If we only still had the Magna Carta. . .
sheesh

We have * making a joke about Scooter skating and people thinking that's funny when their treason has resulted in innumerable deaths and the disabling of our primary intelligence organization that was tracking WMD's.

Yikes
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:38 PM
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6. Right.
The jokes about Libby were highly offensive.

Libby has not been pardoned -- yet -- he had his sentence commuted. The truth is that the congress does have some responsibility in this. A number of our representatives had wrote to President Bush, and requested that he not derail justice in that case. They could have insured that he could not: the president cannot issue pardons in cases that involve the impeachment process. That does not mean that the congress would have to have targeted Bush. By beginning investigations that focused on the potential crimes and abuses of power by VP Cheney, they could have put the president in check. And they were fully aware of this.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:51 PM
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7. It's infuriating isn't it ?
Chill pal.

The truth will win out over time.

:hi:
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