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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:24 PM
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Bring Back Randi Rhodes Now (petition)
While we realize that Air America expects its employees to abide by certain standards when appearing in public, your suspension of Randi Rhodes for remarks she made at affiliates benefit far exceeded her offense, and in the long run, will damage Air America's credibility far more than than those comments damaged Randi's.

Nobody in their right mind imagines that Randi is anything less than a staunch feminist and champion for women. On the air, she has always taken great pains to treat Hillary Clinton with consummate respect, making it clear liberals should support whichever Democrat wins the primary.

And it is Randi's on-air behavior that truly matters, not some off-the-cuff remarks she made, believing only a scant roomful of people would hear them.

Randi's attempted stand-up comedy -- while regrettable -- was performed at your request, and clearly, it is not her medium.

If she erred, it was at least as much your fault as hers. And while you had the right to be upset and let her know it, you had an obligation to make it clear to her that regardless, you had her back.

Anybody who has ever worked for the liberal media is more than aware of what a target you become for vile abuse and death threats, yet Randi never let such tensions temper her passion.

Surely you know better how dogged and hardworking she is, despite such conditions, and how loyal a following she commands. She deserves your loyalty as well.

Had an Air America manager or partner made the mistake Randi did, she would have made every effort to put those remarks into context and minimize the damage, instead of buckling to pressure and compounding the matter, as you did.

Are the Conservatives and Republicans correct? Is the liberal establishment really comprised of spineless wimps?

You certainly haven't shown otherwise by your summary execution of Randi.

But you can distinguish yourselves now, by immediately reinstating her and publicly reaffirming your continued support and respect.

At the very least, do it out of self-interest. Randi Rhodes is Air America's greatest asset, after all.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Reinstate-Randi-Rhodes
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:25 PM
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1. Yes! Thank you! n/t
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:27 PM
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2. i'll sign if its a notice to fire her. i'm glad she's gone.
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Celtic_88 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Randi Rhodes
I agree she is disgusting , I'm glad she is gone.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Yep it's a good idea to shut up our progressive voices
We can always listen to Rush!!

:sarcasm:
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #9
26. so it's progressive to call Democratic women "whores" just because you
don't agree with them? Thanks for enlightening me!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #26
41. She called her a whore because
she IS a whore. A corporate whore.

Don't like it? Then don't listen. But taking her off the air just means one less progressive voice on the radio. And like I said, our alternative is Rush. :crazy:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #41
66. She Got Caught
beware of the YouTube, just might lose your job and put others jobs at risk too!

Why did she call Geraldine Ferraro a big fucking whore? Is she a corporate whore also or is it because she wouldn't back down for her remarks. Sound familiar? You'd think "all about Free Speech" Ms Rhodes would have gone out of her way to protect Ms Ferraro's right to free speech.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. Yes, especially if she is one of the few women...
...who has a national radio audience.

:sarcasm:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
44. celtic_88, you took a wrong turn. Freeperville is this way --->
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #7
57. Well, what do we have here?
No profile, and the Nazi shorthand for "Heil Hitler" right in their screen name?

Nah, just a coincidence, I'm sure.

Sieg Heil yourself back to RimJob's, you goddamned freak.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
84. now i can listen to AAR again. i had turned it off because of Randi.
she's disgusting & i'm glad she's gone.
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Preston120 Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. I'm glad your not in charge of Freedom of Speech.
I think it was a Frenchman who said " I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #11
29. I think it was Voltaire. n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #11
31. She has the right to say it. She doesn't have the RIGHT to have a radio show.
Neither does anyone else.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #31
73. she does if she has a contract.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #73
87. To the contrary: she has an agreed upon set of terms regarding being broadcast.
She may or may not have violated those terms.

And even if AAR rather than Randi has violated those terms, it does not necessarily follow that they must broadcast her.

In any event, a contract is an agreement - it's not a right.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #11
85. a person has every right to say what they want
just not on AAR's airwaves. it's their rules & they can enforce them.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:59 PM
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38. If freedom of speech means anything, it's the right to tell people things they don't want to hear.
You, the mgmt of AAR and the rest of the fascists.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. You can say whatever you want. You're not entitled to a radio show.
Neither am I, neither is Randi.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:03 PM
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46. But taking someone off because they frighten TPTB sets a VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:08 PM
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47. Radio stations deciding who they want to broadcast isn't a dangerous precedent.
It's not even a big deal.

Randi's no more entitled to be in AAR than anyone else is. She has the same right to free speech you and I have - but no right to have others pay to broadcast her speech.

Coulter was dropped from a number of newspapers for - finally - going too far. Her right to free speech wasn't threatened either.

Now I'm fine with Randi, though I haven't listened to her for a long time. But she's not entitled to a radio show. And the confusion of some about free speech is just unfortunate.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. Take them off for poor ratings or demographics
not their political views.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. Or whatever the terms of her contract state.
But NO ONE has a right to have someone else broadcast them.

You have a very warped notion of free speech.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:25 AM
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53. Its all about free speech.
It doesn't matter that her job was to talk about her political views on the radio. She could have been doing any job. It doesn't matter that she used a few "bad" words. People swear all the time, everywhere.

IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT SHE SAID - IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO SHE SAID IT ABOUT.

Its all about free speech and the suppression of it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:41 AM
Response to Reply #53
60. Good call
You bet it's about WHO she was talking about.

I never thought I could hate the DLC wing of the Democratic party any more, but I do now, after what happened to Randi.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #53
61. Bullshit. Is my free speech suppressed because I don't get a radio show?
Is DU suppressing the free speech of the people it tombstones?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:32 PM
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76. You really don't know what the phrase "freedom of speech" means, do you?
Randi, who's job entails providing her political opinion to a wide audience, doesn't have the freedom to voice that opinion freely & can't expect to have it away from work, in the real world at a private function. But we have it here in Skinner's sand box? DU is a *moderated* forum where it states clearly in the rules that speech is restricted here. If you break the rules, you're gone.

There is one difference: at DU I can say - without fear of retribution or retaliation of any kind from the management here or my employer - that Hillary Clinton is a fucking whore. Apparently Randi does not have that freedom in the real world - and since you don't agree with her, you wouldn't grant her that freedom either.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:59 PM
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77. Yes, actually, I do.
"Randi, who's job entails providing her political opinion to a wide audience, doesn't have the freedom to voice that opinion freely & can't expect to have it away from work, in the real world at a private function."

It's only her job in that someone is willing to pay her to talk politics. If she makes herself someone others no longer wish to pay to do that, it's not her job any more.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH refers to the first amendment, which doesn't say anyone is entitled to a broadcast of their speech.

Randi, like other commentators, runs the risk that producers won't want to use her any more. It happened to Coulter too.

"But we have it here in Skinner's sand box? DU is a *moderated* forum where it states clearly in the rules that speech is restricted here. If you break the rules, you're gone."

And Randi has a contract which in all liklihood covers such things.

"here is one difference: at DU I can say - without fear of retribution or retaliation of any kind from the management here or my employer - that Hillary Clinton is a fucking whore. Apparently Randi does not have that freedom in the real world - and since you don't agree with her, you wouldn't grant her that freedom either."

Randi can say it in the real world - but she has no guarantee that anyone will want to air a person who says that. Same thing happened when Ann Coulter called John Edwards a "faggot" and several newpapers dropped her column.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #77
81. Your response shows you, in fact do not.
"Randi can say it in the real world - but she has no guarantee that anyone will want to air a person who says that. Same thing happened when Ann Coulter called John Edwards a "faggot" and several newpapers dropped her column."

Randi's situation & Coulter's are not analogous. Randi's comments may have been offensive, but they were made at a private event in front of a paying audience. Coulter's whole persona was built on offensive speech being made in public for all to see. Coulter has nothing valuable to add to the public discourse, so some - and only SOME - newspapers have chosen to drop her column. She has not been silenced in any way.

Randi's employer retaliated against her because of WHO she targeted. If she had said "Condi is a fucking whore!" there would be no issue. She'd still be on the air - BECAUSE HER EMPLOYER AGREES WITH THE STATEMENT. That sort of "freedom" is available in totalitarian societies to - you can say anything you want, as long as you don't mind spending time in the Hotel Lubianka.

I refer you back to George Orwell's quote in my original post: "If freedom of speech means anything, it's the right to tell people things they don't want to hear." Randi said things some people didn't want to hear.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:56 PM
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83. Again, bullshit.
"Randi's situation & Coulter's are not analogous. Randi's comments may have been offensive, but they were made at a private event in front of a paying audience. Coulter's whole persona was built on offensive speech being made in public for all to see. Coulter has nothing valuable to add to the public discourse, so some - and only SOME - newspapers have chosen to drop her column. She has not been silenced in any way."

Then Randi hasn't been silenced - she can communicate on her own, on her message board, and she can shop her show around to other radio broadcasters.

Randi's show was sold on her persona - she runs the risk of losing a host based on it too.

You seem to think, for some ridiculous reason, that AAR is obliged to carry a show with a hist they don't want to carry.

"andi's employer retaliated against her because of WHO she targeted. If she had said "Condi is a fucking whore!" there would be no issue. She'd still be on the air - BECAUSE HER EMPLOYER AGREES WITH THE STATEMENT. That sort of "freedom" is available in totalitarian societies to - you can say anything you want, as long as you don't mind spending time in the Hotel Lubianka."

So her employer should host shows they don't like? Should AAR give Tucker Carlson a show so he can have free speech?

" refer you back to George Orwell's quote in my original post: "If freedom of speech means anything, it's the right to tell people things they don't want to hear." Randi said things some people didn't want to hear."

And she can keep on doing it - but no one else should be forced to pay her to do it.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #83
88. Randi has been silenced. If you hadn't noticed she's been off the air for a week.
Not being able to work, or simply getting passed over for a promotion, or not getting a raise that's due is not alleviated in any way by retaining the ability to voice your opinions in the public square. More so if the threat of punishment for voicing those beliefs looms over your head. And economic threat are just a couple steps away from physical threat: being jailed, beaten, tortured & killed. Its just a matter of degree. Not being able to eat, fearing for your life & safety and those of your friends, family & loved ones is a very powerful and effective incentive to make troublemakers toe the party line & keep quite.

It's punishment plain and simple. But I guess you're fine with that.

Saying she doesn't have a "right" to a radio show is bullshit. She had a radio show. And even in the uber-competitive world of talk radio she would be allowed to continue to work as long as she is successful, draws listeners and fits into the networks' format. She more than meets & exceeds all those criteria; the network hasn't changed it's philosophy, it's line up or it's stated goals. And THEY STILL ADVERTISE HER SHOW! Is AAR not obliged to offer what they advertise?

Apparently you don't think so.

What she said & how she said it isn't an issue since "Fucking Whore" is entirely acceptable to the management of AAR when speaking of people the management of AAR doesn't like. And where she said it isn't an issue either; it was said at a private function not meant for broadcast. The people that actually did pay her for the event - KKGN in San Francisco - apparently DO agree with her. They're gearing up to bring her back on Monday.

For you, AAR should be allowed to to fire her for her actions at a third-party function that they authorized.

The only difference in all of this is who Randi spoke of - Hillary Clinton. If that one aspect of this situation was changed none of this would be an issue. If AAR management doesn't want to hear it, if the Hillbots don't want to hear it, if YOU don't want to hear it - and you're willing to throw away our 220 yr old tradition of free & open speech on public & private without fear of reprisal or retaliation from government or other individuals in order NOT to hear it - and if the rest of us let you do that, then America is truly not free.

You should hope that you never become the target of an authoritarian-minded individual who has the power and inclination to inflict damage on your career simply because you may have a different political view.

But I guess you'd be OK if that happened also. When the Nazis come for you I expect a smile.
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #88
90. Oh, come on.
"And economic threat are just a couple steps away from physical threat: being jailed, beaten, tortured & killed. Its just a matter of degree. Not being able to eat, fearing for your life & safety and those of your friends, family & loved ones is a very powerful and effective incentive to make troublemakers toe the party line & keep quite."

She can always find another talk radio station to work for. This isn't some sort of Chavez-like situation at all.

"She more than meets & exceeds all those criteria; the network hasn't changed it's philosophy, it's line up or it's stated goals."

If the company feels that her comments at the event put their financial situation at risk, because pro-Hillary people would start boycotting their station in response to her, then they are more than justified to drop her.

"What she said & how she said it isn't an issue since "Fucking Whore" is entirely acceptable to the management of AAR when speaking of people the management of AAR doesn't like."

Source?

"And where she said it isn't an issue either; it was said at a private function not meant for broadcast."

But it was broadcasted when it was uploaded to YouTube and people were able to find it on a public venue.

"willing to throw away our 220 yr old tradition of free & open speech on public & private without fear of reprisal or retaliation from government or other individuals in order NOT to hear it - and if the rest of us let you do that, then America is truly not free."

So the makers of Grey's Anatomy would not be justified for firing Isaiah Washington because of his slur against gay people?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #88
91. She's no more silenced than you or I am.
"Not being able to work, or simply getting passed over for a promotion, or not getting a raise that's due is not alleviated in any way by retaining the ability to voice your opinions in the public square."

You are BADLY confused. Randi isn't some anonymous person persecuted for her beliefs. She's a radio political voice who mae her trade ON her political speech - that means getting contracts AND losing them. Her politics are her product.

"It's punishment plain and simple. But I guess you're fine with that."

Yeah - like AAR is "punishing" Rush Limbaugh by not carrying his show.

"Saying she doesn't have a "right" to a radio show is bullshit. She had a radio show. And even in the uber-competitive world of talk radio she would be allowed to continue to work as long as she is successful, draws listeners and fits into the networks' format. She more than meets & exceeds all those criteria; the network hasn't changed it's philosophy, it's line up or it's stated goals."

Grow the fuck up. AAR isn't CSPAN. It's not a public forum. It's a radio broadcast network with a business to tend to. It's up to them to decide if Randi meets their criteria - same way it's up to you to decide if any product you buy meets your criteria.

"What she said & how she said it isn't an issue since "Fucking Whore" is entirely acceptable to the management of AAR when speaking of people the management of AAR doesn't like. And where she said it isn't an issue either; it was said at a private function not meant for broadcast. The people that actually did pay her for the event - KKGN in San Francisco - apparently DO agree with her. They're gearing up to bring her back on Monday."

Doesn't matter, if AAR has the typical sort of contract public figures have about their conduct and how it reflects on the sponsor/station.

"For you, AAR should be allowed to to fire her for her actions at a third-party function that they authorized."

For me, AAR shoud act within the terms of their contract, which they and Randi agreed to - whatever that is.

"The only difference in all of this is who Randi spoke of - Hillary Clinton. If that one aspect of this situation was changed none of this would be an issue. If AAR management doesn't want to hear it, if the Hillbots don't want to hear it, if YOU don't want to hear it - and you're willing to throw away our 220 yr old tradition of free & open speech on public & private without fear of reprisal or retaliation from government or other individuals in order NOT to hear it - and if the rest of us let you do that, then America is truly not free."

You are again confusing subsidized paid speech with free speech. Your fucking problem.

"You should hope that you never become the target of an authoritarian-minded individual who has the power and inclination to inflict damage on your career simply because you may have a different political view."

Which is not the case here. I'm not selling my political speech so it's not relevant to my work.

"But I guess you'd be OK if that happened also. When the Nazis come for you I expect a smile."

Oh no, the AAR nazis. "First they came for the paid radio hosts and spokesmodels, and reduced them to being ordinary people..."
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #48
68. Political Views?
Calling top democratic women "big fucking whores" at a radio event is a view that would have cost AAR ratings and ad dollars. Besides, it looks as if she's the one who decided to leave. Sam said he didn't think they were going to fire her and she was returning soon.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:59 AM
Response to Reply #47
58. Coulter was dropped from newspapers because of what she said IN the newspapers
If Randi had called someone a "fucking whore" on the radio, that would be a comparable situation. But that's not what happened.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #58
62. Wrongo. She was dropped from newspapers after her remarks on CSpan.
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 08:32 AM by mondo joe
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703080002

Though certainly she was dropped for the whole of her crappy self.

As is the right of any newspaper.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #38
86. exactly. and i'm telling you that AAR has the right to fire her, suspend her
or anything else they want to do. when you are representing the company you work for, they have every right to hold you to their standards AS DOES ANY OTHER EMPLOYER. what she did was inappropriate and ugly & rude. she got what she had coming to her.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
3. Done and thanks for posting. n/t
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:29 PM
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4. As a femnist, long before it was called that, she sure as hell doesn't
speak for me. She's an embarrasment along with Ferarro...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:29 PM
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5. Nope. I wrote them the opposite. She is a disgrace and a buffoon. I would never defend such behavior...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:30 PM
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6. Thank you
Signed and K&R
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
8. I got an E-mail this morning from a Brian Mudd
from WJNO....

Hi SFJ,

We expect Randi will be on air live next week. Thanks for your interest.


Brian Mudd
Program Director
1290 WJNO, 1230 WBZT, & 1370 WZTA
News & Traffic Director WPB \ Treasure Coast
3071 Continental Drive
West Palm Beach, FL 33407
561-616-6756
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Awesome
Thank you.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. you're welcome P2BL
I've been staying on this one-working the e-mails to stations and keeping everybody as updated as I can-here and on her MB...Randi Rhodes is an important part of my political life-has been for almost a decade now....one more thing-I KNOW some of the stuff she's had to endure to do what she does. People threatening her and her friggin dog if you can believe that. She had a stalker who scared the shit out of her and her ex-husband Jim had to go to work with her and sit in studio-i remember it was the day before the 2002 mid terms-those neo (nazi) cons were determined
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. How sad that she is slammed here on DU
Like we have progressive voices to spare. :grr:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:48 PM
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17. yea the Taylor Marsh story
where they were gonna try and replace Randi with a pro-Hillary voice is dying real fast as Marsh's street cred has been exposed and she is being seen by a whole lot of dems as a fraud. There is that radical anti-everything and everyone who is against Clinton faction that is growing less and less in number and in clout-thank God...
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:52 PM
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30. Randi is being slammed
because she called it like she saw it. Look, proud2Blib, I have never called Hillary any names, just posted observations of her behavior, history and voting record. This has caused me to be called all sorts of terrible things along with accusing me of being an idiot, a moron, a woman hater, and being told I am the reason that the Democratic Party is "a mess." You see, if I want to be accepted, I should STFU, learn to close my eyes, forget how to read and stuff cotton balls in my ears...

As a woman who has been through a lot and who tries to be fair in my daily life, I have come to predict and loath the hyperbolic attacks in the DU. To be called a self loathing woman hater in here just about made me never come back - But I considered the source and really just try to remember that there are people who spend their entire day, every day, doing NOTHING but monitoring these boards and who are looking for a fight. I have become defensive which is a big fucking mistake in here because the people who NEVER leave their computers, will let you know, right away WHAT A BIG LOSER YOU ARE. If you disagree they will tell you off at the drop of a pin. Also, they run in packs and PM each other so they can GANG attack... It gets UGLY!

I appreciate your post and will sign the petition. The last time I looked, it was not against the law or anti-American to say what Randi Rhodes said.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:53 PM
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43. Thank you Gilligan!
:hug:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:58 PM
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33. Slammed? It's not like anyone called her a "fucking whore" or anything.
:hi:
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:18 PM
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75. SoFlaJet, my good fellow!
Excellent work. I was just trying to find a viable phone number to inquire WJNO.

Maybe WJNO will syndicate her show...

This is the post I've been looking for.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:38 PM
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13. I think I prefer Seder
It's not even Rhodes' politics that bother me. Obviously she speaks right up my alley on issues. It's her manner and her tone with callers. I really just wish that she would calm it down a bit.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:46 PM
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16. They each have their own style
I think the important thing is that we have so few progressive voices in our media. Let's keep them ALL rather than shut them up.

Sometimes I wonder if people here forget when we had NO progressive radio and Rush dominated the talk show market.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:48 PM
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18. I listed to Schultz in the morning
It was a couple of days ago that some Clinton supporter was so happy that he got cancelled on some station in Miami. That kind of thing makes me want to gag. I hope that poster takes a serious look in the mirror when this nomination is all said and done.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:31 PM
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35. I stopped listening to her ages ago
Went from fan to fed up. I agree with her opinions most of the time, but her personality is just not my idea of entertainment. She became self focused and sort of mean, and the show lost its forward energy, its arc and dynamics. This is not an easy job, and while the callers get to phone it in, the on air talent can not be anything short of present and on the dime.

The problem is not that we have so few progressive voices but so few media outlets for the many great voices we could be hearing. The time is more rare than the talent at this point, and any given host could be replaced with others with an hour's notice. I assume that while she is away, there is not dead air at AAR? Al Franken moved on and AAR is still up and running. So show-biz is show-biz, if she can pull them in and sell ads she will be around, if the time won't sell she will be out the door.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:03 PM
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34. Sam deserves to have his own weekday show again, but not Randi's.
If AAR won't give Sam a real show, I'm sure Nova M will. And if AAR is fucking stupid enough to fire Randi, that's probably where she will go too.

Remember when Air America started, they had only TWO people on the air with any radio experience. Actually, Mike Malloy didn't even start up until a couple months later (though he was involved in the early planning stages of the network) so Randi was their ONLY professional radio talent for a while. (Thom Hartmann would be syndicated by AAR a little bit later, but wasn't actually carried on the main network feed until Franken quit)

Not that Sam and some others didn't grow into their radio jobs, but it's really lame how AAR has treated the only long time professional broadcasters who have been on their payroll.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:34 PM
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36. Yeah. I don't want her off the air, but I choose to not listen to her.
I'm glad that some people want to listen to her, it just won't be me.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #36
50. Thank you for a reasonable response
You appear to get it! :applause:
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #13
39. Nothing against her
but I prefer Seder and some others too. Just not my style. But I do agree that this is a freedom of speech issue that AAR shouldn't have butted into.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:50 PM
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19. I really don't care whether she makes it back on air or not
There are so many far better options as far as progressive talk goes, IMHO.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:20 PM
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51. So many ?!?!?
Please do tell, what are all these better options? See, I live in red state hell and my only options are Rush, Sean, Oreally and sports talk radio. I had XM but canceled my subscription when Randi was fired. So I am really anxious to hear about all these other options you mentioned.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:52 PM
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52. I'm truly sorry your options are so limited.
I find Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow to be the pinnacle of progressive talk presently.

Sam Seder is also excellent when he gets on air.

I listen to all of them via the web or daily podcasts.

For your sake I do hope you find a way to listen to her should she find her way back on the air, but IMHO the three I mentioned above far eclipse Rhodes in both style and content.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #51
55. You listed them
and you forgot Savage and Laura Ingraham :sarcasm:


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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:50 PM
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20. If Randi is really AAR's greatest asset...
Then they are in more trouble than I thought.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:52 PM
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21. Huh? I must have been listening to a different Randi Rhodes show....
"On the air, she has always taken great pains to treat Hillary Clinton with consummate respect, making it clear liberals should support whichever Democrat wins the primary."

Who are you kidding? She slams Hillary Clinton every chance she gets - on the air and apparently off the air, too. And with NO respect, much less "consummate" respect. Sorry, no petition signing for me.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:12 PM
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27. Hit the nail right on the head there
At one time Randi treated Clinton with some degree of respect, but not for quite a while now. For the last few months she has been a straight up Obama cheerleader and vitriolic toward Clinton. Seems like if Randi wants to be treated with dignity and respect, she might consider treating others that way. She also treats most of her callers like dirt. Her act has worn pretty thin and its just the SOS every day. Sam Seder is much better. He, by contrast, is a pleasure to listen to.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:22 AM
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67. Yeah. As much as I love Randi and want her back on the air...
...how the hell am I supposed to sign that with a straight face? And the part about the controversy being as much Air America's fault as it was hers? Ludicrous.
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:00 PM
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22. She won't come back for good
AAR is a joke - beholden to the establishment Democratic cesspool of big money and back-room deals. You know, the same people whop pretend to be progressive but find time for all the D.C. social functions.

Matalin and Carville are what today's Dem and Repub parties are. It's all a show.

Once she dissed Mark Green's fav she was done.

I'll bet she lands up with Malloy on Nova M.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. I love whenever Ed Schult
hands Green his ass on Hardball-they CLEARLY do NOT like each other.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. What a pathetic bit of misinformation.
Randi has dissed Hillary plenty.

She just went too far and was suspended.

Get over it.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:27 AM
Response to Reply #32
59. You want us to get over free speech?
Sorry, ain't gonna happen.

You don't like Randi? Don't listen. It's that simple.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #59
63. No. Get over the misinformation.
Or did you have a hard time comprehending the post?
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:35 AM
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71. No, she just hit she point where Green could can her
Watch the "hard hitting" replacement they come up with.

I'd rule out Penn, however - too transparent.

"Introducing the Carville and Begala Show!"

Now we're getting somewhere.

Hey, Scaife could even fund it.

On the QT of course.

Because, after all, perception is everything.

I mean, look at Hillary. Just a throwaway line or two about bringing those troops home and poof! you think she's Che in a pants suit.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #71
78. At least you agree she hit a point where she could be canned.
Like Ann Coulter, whose comments about John Edwards got her canned from several nwespapers.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:05 PM
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24. Frankly I'd prefer Sam.



There are times when Randi breaches my 'attitude' thresh hold.

Sam has a more logical approach.





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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:10 PM
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25. NOPE.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:13 PM
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28. signed it... go jayhawks! - n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:03 AM
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64. LOL! Thanks!!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:54 PM
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37. yes - bring her back
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dg10348 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:00 PM
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45. Randi's contract with Air America terminated Will be on Green960
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:04 AM
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54. thanks for alerting us to the petition
I have mixed feelings about Randi as a talk show host. I listened to her regularly for the first 2 years of AAR, but like many others, got really turned off by her rude behavior and stopped listening regularly. However, I still tuned in occasionally to stay in touch with her show.

Having said that ... I have a LOT of respect for Randi the human being, and admire her. So it was very sad to hear that she was no longer at AAR. The management could have handled this more gracefully, but I suspect they were looking for an excuse to get rid of her. It's part of the gentrification of AAR, getting rid of controversial raw talent like Malloy, and now Randi. Both have a loyal following because they reflect the anger we feel.

I like Sam, Thom and Rachel, and there are some lesser-known names that do a good job (and one of them is NOT Lionel!). Thom is scary-smart with a more restrained style. Rachel is also very smart, with an engaging friendly tone. Sam is Sam, just can't help but love that guy! But they don't have the fire of Malloy and Rhodes.

The thing I like most about Randi is her authenticity. I often get pissed off at her for one reason or another, but still feel very loyal and protective towards her. She's just like me, a flawed human being. She made a mistake. But she did not deserve to be terminated from a company she helped create.

It's funny how language works. People like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Michael Savage routinely say horrible things that are orders of magnitude worse than Randi's remarks that night. The only difference is that they did not use the "f" word and the "w". If people started paying more attention to the message, and not to the vocabulary, Limbaugh, Beck, and Savage would have been kicked off the air a long time ago.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:47 AM
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56. yay! i love randi rhodes!
but i'm a strange one; i like forgiveness over hysteria and ideological purity. that's why i hang out here on DU a lot -- because it's an excellent opportunity to exercise forgiveness.

i also love doing rolling black-outs on my ignore list to watch different patterns to this madness. there's so much passion here, with honest belief that whatever someone does is of epic level importance, it's almost infectious! how entertaining! but that's another topic.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:07 AM
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65. No thanks.
If I want to listen to people call Democratic women "fucking whores" and comparing them to clansman, there are enough assholes on the right wing side to do that.

I don't have any desire to hear that on progressive radio.
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:04 PM
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79. I do.
Because it's a comedy bit ,for there must be some truth to it. Especially regarding Ferraro going on Faux News.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:33 AM
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69. Done, thank you!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:35 AM
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70. I think SHE left. And, as I long time listener, I think Randi has been unhappy for awhile

Shortly before all this happened, she was talking about how much she missed Florida and her home.

And, though she was never known for her tact and patience with callers, as of late, she really seemed to be getting extra irritated with her call-ins.

I think this is for the best, at least for now.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:38 AM
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72. You better make sure she wants to come back.

I believe she has hated her time in NY. She has mentioned many times how much she misses her old home
and her life there.

She was never happy in NY. She will probably go back to her old station and be happier.




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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:44 AM
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74. No. There isn't much point.
AAR wouldn't listen, and at this point I'm sure Randi is planning the next phase of her radio career.

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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:07 PM
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80. Rhodes quit
AAR can't very well bring back someone who doesn't want to come back.
I like Randi but if she's not going to be on then I hope the slot goes to Seder.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:41 PM
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82. Sounds like Randi told Air America to stick it.
Can't say I blame her.

Hopefully, we'll see her on Nova M or Jones soon.

Contact your local progressive radio station and ask them to pick up her new show.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:32 PM
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89. She is now one of the team on Nova M!!
Nova M announced it today, she will be back on the air with Nova M Monday in her usual time slot, 3pm - 6 pm, Eastern Time.
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