Air America Radio IS NO MORE

[itsrobert]

on my radio. I doubt they will be around too much longer anyhow. Those fucking DLC Whores!

[provis99]

1. I gave them up for Nova M radio when they fired Malloy

Air America sure went corporate DLC pretty fast.

[goclark]

2. Are they off the air ~where is Nova A,never heard of it

:cry:

I love Rachael.

[ConsAreLiars]

7. Nova M was started by the people who created Air America Radio only to see the it taken over

by dubious types. After Malloy got fired the Drobny's worked with the people at the Phoenix AAR Affiliate to create a new network called Nova M radio. They have some original content like Malloy who is again now carried by several other progressive (and other) stations along with other AAR content. See their site and stream it at http://www.novamradio.com/ and see the Wiki at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_M_Radio

(edit typo)

[defendandprotect]

34. Thanks . . . I just put the LINK above Air America --- will be trying it out soon ---

Listened to Ed Schultz for a while today ---
he was hitting pretty hard on Bush/War ---

Certainly not as sophisticated in thought as Thom Hartmann --- !!!
And he just doesn't have the overall information that Randi Rhodes always had ---

Listened to Sam Seder for a while today --
and one of the callers was playing that old song that "the Dems are the only ones
who can lose this election for themselves -- and the in fighting was bad."
That kind of stuff ---

On the other hand, we seem to be bringing out huge crowds to vote ---
That's something that the Repugs and the DLC crowd don't want to see ---

AND -- our futures depend on what computer voting is going to do for us ---
will it be another 2000 -- another 2004 --- ???

THAT we can't control -- only the Repugs can ---

[Greyhound]

16. novamradio.com

Based in Phoenix AZ., of all places.

[Virginian]

31. So when do we get a station in DC?

All I ever hear on AAR anymore is Lionel. The same show several times a day.
Stephanie Miller went to 3WT, which is "left, right and whatever we want it to be."
I'm afraid that after they take all the good talent from AAR they will drop them to go to Conservative talk and then we won't have any more Progressive talk.

[Swamp Rat]

4. Nova M!

[Kurovski]

22. !

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh, you know what I like, you twisted fuck! :rofl: :rofl: :loveya:

[Swamp Rat]

28. LOL!

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCEVLaqoC7E

[Kurovski]

33. Nyah, nyah, nyah, hyah, nyah....

:D

http://everydayyoutube.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/flintstones-italian-style/

[tsuki]

46. I love Nova M. Stephanie in the morning, followed by Hartman.

When I get DSL at home, I'll be listening to Malloy.

[LSK]

60. I have been listening to Randi on the NovaM stream for well over a year now

[Richard Steele]

3. Stick a fork in them. They're done. nm

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. Oh yeah they will be done because you no longer listen too them.

:rofl:

[itsrobert]

6. Reading comprehension problem?

Where did I say they were done because I'm no longer listening to them?

[silverojo]

15. They're done because they're firing everybody with a personality

The other AAR talking heads are crashing bores.

[libnnc]

8. Here's Mike Malloy's AAR 101

Little bedtime story about how AAR sucks ass. You might learn something.

and they still owe Mike a tidy sum
http://premium.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1193761_d5doa/MalloyShow3Apr08_ReRandiAAR.mp3

[shellgame26]

21. count me out too

I will have no more use for AAR after this.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

9. What about my XM?

I get XM so I can get liberal radio. We don't have any liberal talk radio in my town (MERELY the FOURTH LARGEST CITY in the UNITED STATES, that's all--not a cowtown) except for Pacifica.

[ihavenobias]

14. Air America has a knack of losing their best talent (Maddow and Hartmann are great though)

Obvious examples were already listed, and I'd add Sam Seder (downgraded to sunday only) and The Young Turks to that list (and firing K Jones from Maddow's show).

Once my yearly subscription ends in June, I'm not renewing. Besides, I'm a member at www.theyoungturks.com so I don't need Air America anyway.

[JDPriestly]

17. Maddow and Hartmann -- also two of my favorites.

But, Randi used to also be one of my favorites. -- Until she lost it over Obama. Nothing against Obama, but Randi was just overboard pro-Obama. She was insulting other candidates including my favorite John Edwards. I don't think Air America is so much pro-DLC as just seeking some balance. Randi lost her balance. Nevertheless, I like her a lot.

[alfredo]

18. You know , in the radio industry people come and go. It happens

all the time. It's the nature of the beast.

[ihavenobias]

25. Yes, but again, why do they always lose *good* shows?

Now Lionel is on? Lionel?!

I didn't want to say anything negative about a particular host, but I couldn't resist that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfQkYp8JM20&feature=user

[alfredo]

30. Lionel's voice can be grating, but sometimes he is right on the money

with his commentary.

[regnaD kciN]

35. I bet Maddow will be gone to MSNBC soon...

...and Hartmann owns his own radio show and syndicates it to AAR, so he can re-affiliate with Jones or NovaM anytime.

Soon, AAR with be left with nothing but Sam Seder, Mark Green, and a whole lot o' Lionel. :puke:

It's a shame that, when AAR finally does fold, the right-wingers will be pointing to it and saying "See! We told you liberal talk radio would never work!" (neatly ignoring the fact that lots of progressive stations around the country will still be on-air, carrying syndicated programming by Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, and possibly Thom Hartmann -- they just won't have the AAR label on them anymore).

[NYCGirl]

55. No, AAR is working with MSNBC…

http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2008/04/09/rachel-maddow-progressive-medias-next-mainstream-star/

One significant measure of Maddow’s new-found favor: the decision by MSNBC, effective next week, to hire her as a regular panelist on its newest nightly campaign program Race for the White House – and to allow Air America to simulcast the 6 pm nightly program as the first hour of its own nightly Rachel Maddow show.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. Canceled my XM

The thing that really upsets me is that here in red state hell, we have Rush 3 times a day, and Sean and Orally. And sports talk. AAR has gone downhill since they fired Mike Malloy but at least they had Randi. Now that she is gone, I see no reason to PAY to listen to the fascist station.

Yes, I said fascist.

[itsrobert]

12. XM has Mike Malloy

on 167 also.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. On really late at night when I am rarely in my car

I can listen to Mike online. I am usually at home then and online anyway.

[NuttyFluffers]

43. download podcasts and play it in your car, then donate when you wish.

i do that to "keep up" because my life schedule could never fit such things into my schedule. so instead of me fitting "them", i make "them" (as in all things, including TV, etc) fit accordingly to me.

watch TV on schedule or download/tivo/buy season DVD sets? not a hard choice. same for radio. my life, my time, my schedule. and it's not like i was on the edge of my seat in antici----pation to call in at a moments notice. but maybe you do call in a lot, who knows?

i just think you could save good money, and blood pressure, this way. hope that helps!

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. LOL I just got an ipod for Christmas

and have been doing that for about a month now. I love it. And it is lots less expensive.

Funny thing - the AAR shows usually don't want to download. Someone here started a thread about that very issue a week or so ago. Every other podcast I subscribe to has no problem downloading. But AAR is messed up.

[Canuckistanian]

11. They had a good run while they lasted. Here's to NovaM!

:toast:

[alfredo]

19. Check out Talk/Spoken Word channels in iTunes. There's several

progressive channels.

[JDPriestly]

20. Here is what is happening per the Green 960

http://www.green960.com/pages/randi.html

Monday, April 14th at 4pm... it will be our pleasure to announce the return of Randi Rhodes to the Green 960 family.


Watch the video below that chronicles the timeline of the circus, and our efforts to do what's right for the vast majority of Green960 listeners that support her.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. Thanks, this was a damn private event

it chaps my hide that some folks are willing to forget certain principles for the sake of partisan goals

And yes, when the time comes to renew my sub to AAR, will not, and will become a NOVA M customer soon

Hell, who's next? I am betting Hartman.

[regnaD kciN]

36. Unfortunately, Green 960 was stupid...

...and posted the video of that private event online.

They may complain that Larry Johnson and his crew "stole" their video, edited it, and put it on YouTube, but, if they hadn't decided to post the video of a private event for public consumption, this would never have happened. :-(

[newmajority]

40. Is Larry Johnson playing for Team Clinton?

Why are all the CIA types flocking around Hillary? Is it because Bill seems to be attached to Poppy Bush?

(For anyone who still believes George Bush Sr's only involvement in the CIA was in the mid-70's, please learn the facts before attempting a response to this)

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. No it was someone in the audience who took a video

[B Calm]

23. Nova M Founding Members rock!

[libnnc]

24. I joined on Monday.

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[B Calm]

26. Fantastic!

[ConsAreLiars]

29. Thank you.

You, like all the others, also get a :thumbsup: and a :toast:

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

32. The whole idea of Air America was a flawed concept

The reich wing didn't gain control of the airwaves by throwing a network on and admitting they were one sided with a point of view. They slowly crept their way into every little market with small packs of assholes like Rush, Hannity, Mike Gallagher, Savage.......etc.

The only way to gain a foothold and grab an audience is from the grass roots on small stations, gain a following and get syndicated from there. Taking over entire stations with a philosophy will not work. Don't declare where you stand, let people draw their own conclusions from your viewpoints.

[regnaD kciN]

37. I don't think that was the problem...

...it was, rather, that they attempted to build an entire coast-to-coast network from the ground up, rather than go in the syndication business right away (and maybe put on a couple of stations themselves to prove the format viable).

And, for that, the Drobnys deserve as much blame as those who came after. Fortunately, they seem to have learned from their mistakes this time, with NovaM.

[riverdeep]

38. I don't think it was a flawed concept, just not executed well.

And for what it's worth, it's still on the air. It's not dead just yet, and Randi is on suspension, not fired- yet.

I don't think liberal radio had the luxury of waiting 20 years to do small start up operations- it had to go big as a response. But the times, they done change-ed. When the cons were doing radio, the market to buy stations was relatively cheap, and regulations existed to avoid monopolies in towns. Now, radio stations are expensive, and monopolies are allowed (in part thanks to the cons blathering on the radio airwaves).

We're caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to radio. However, in other mediums, we kick ass. When listening to podcasts in the car becomes as popular as listening to the radio, we can make some real headway. I never listen to the radio in the car except on those occasions I forget to bring my mp3 player. And I hate it. Static and hiss, commercials, news I can't use. Screw that. Podcasts come in nice and clear and I control how I want to hear it. Old people will never do this, but for the under 50 set, it could be more popular than radio if modeled and marketed correctly. TIVO has made people more open to the idea of not experiencing things live and that that has advantages.

[TTUBatfan2008]

45. Podcasts rule...

I subscribed to Ed Schultz's podcasts earlier this week after listening to him at work ($6 per month). Thanks to Randi's suspension, I had to look elsewhere and when I heard about the warmonger controversy, it reminded me that I was always impressed by him when I saw him on TV but I had never bothered to check out his radio show. He is absolutely kickin' ass on McCain right now and it's exactly what the left needs. The best part is even if he sounds like Rush, he at least backs up his shit-talking with facts. He had a list of like 15-20 bills that McCain has voted against that were specifically veterans' benefits bills. In one of them, the Dems proposed to pay for the veterans' benefits by rolling back tax cuts for the upper 2% or whatever number it is, and McCain voted with the tax cuts. He wraps himself in the flag and then treats our vets like crap behind their back.

Anyway, back on the topic of podcasts. I simply decided that I would rather listen to his show a day later since my work schedule doesn't always work out since I also have classes during the day (I'm a college student). My Mon-Weds-Fri work schedule is 12-4 Central time, which means I can catch the last 2 hours of his show on live streaming. And on Tues-Thurs, my schedule is 1-4, which means catching the last hour of it. So I said "fuck this, $6 per month ain't bad for each day's podcasts." So now I simply didn't bother listening for a day and let myself get a day behind and it's all good after that. Simply listen to him 1 day behind. No commercials, much better quality than the crap streams on the Internet, and simply a better fit with my schedule. :)

[Cleita]

39. It was so much better before the founding of AAR when

you could get Limbaugh, Ingrahams, Hannity, O'Reilly et al., or, maybe Imus or Howard Stern and NOTHING ELSE!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

58. No, it WAS better 20 years ago

....when you had local talk stations with about a dozen different hosts of various political stripes who weren't programmed bots beamed in from halfway across the country.

You can miss my point all you want about how AAR was little more than a short term attempt to stir things up. I can't even get their programming around here near a solid blue metropolitan area because their business model failed, and all the stations they were on got rid of them.

Thank god for satellite radio, although Clear Channel wants to make sure that gets shut down too.

[Cleita]

59. I can't disagree with you on that, but there was a decade or

more interim there where everything was RW babble. Yes, you could find the occasional local station that had a local host, but none were national.

[LSK]

61. you are way off in your logic there

What they used to do is sandwich a liberal show between conservative shows and the liberal shows never made it big. The right wing has tons of stations that advertise them as right wing, so why should the left do the same.

Also keep in mind ratings were never a problem for AAR, they started life by being ripped off by a financial backer and have always had shitty management.

See 'left of the dial' if you have not already.

[Morereason]

41. Say what you want, but outside of the internet AAR is reaching a very large audience

I am very glad they are on the air, even if I might not jel with every personality. They help get the word out.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Actually no they aren't

No stations anywhere near the middle of the country carry them. Those of us deep in red state hell have to buy satellite radios to get AAR.

[SeattleGirl]

42. I never listen directly to AAR any more.

I listen to various radio stations online that carry Thom Hartmann, Randi, Sam, Rachel, and Mike.

[NuttyFluffers]

44. Liberal Radio is Dead, Long Live Liberal Radio!

:P

i love me some randi.

and about this whore word hysteria... whatever. (yeah, i'm rather lax about such things. it's rather gender neutral and almost sex positive to me. but then i come from 'liberal heathen bastion of wrongness,' SF Bay Area. we're kinda permissive and enjoy co-opting "the negative." in short, we have loose and bunch-free panties.) i don't attend Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage -- well not out of devotion, and not often, just occasionally to be amused -- so this was such a non-starter for me. i decided that my busy life needed more attention than hovering around DU's snowflake and nitro glycerin feelings about this. but then, DU's been quite fragile about everything lately. like some sort of sullen teen + pregnant women group therapy session... that just ran out of coffee... and ice cream.

so the moral of the story is the world needs more coffee ice cream. :7

[cynatnite]

49. What did the DLC do? n/t

[otohara]

51. DLC Whores?

How about Ms Rhodes, did she not have anything to do with this outcome? She's the dummy who got caught being an ass while attending a station event. She's the one who put others income at risk, she's the one who generated complaints and threats of ad dollars being pulled.

She probably refused to apologize just like Geraldine Ferraro refused to apologize or back down from her remarks about Sen. Obama, and what did that get her? She got called a big fucking whore!

[itsrobert]

53. She is

Big sellout Whore!!!

[otohara]

54. Name Calling Adds So Much

to the conversation.

So courageous too! Bravo big guy!

[itsrobert]

56. Just telling it like it is.

I'm sorry the truth offends you.

[otohara]

57. Truth

Truth is, she got herself in a pickle and ran back to Florida.

[Norrin Radd]

52. I stopped listening when the got rid of Marc Maron.