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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:12 PM
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Why do right wing hacks like Gregory
believe any sane American would vote for Condi Rice as VP.
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:17 PM
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1. The RW talking points are included with his paycheck... n/t

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:19 PM
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2. Condi as VP means we've already won...
The only BETTER gift to us would be Jeb as VP.

The American people are sick of ANYTHING Bush.:thumbsup:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:20 PM
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3. Why do some people here on DU like Gregory?
I'm not getting it.

:crazy:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:22 PM
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4. good question!
But we already know the DLC answer to that one.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:20 PM
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32. Maybe they just like to watch Rachel Maddow keep him in check?
Kinda like she did here when that idiot tried to argue Bush's response to 9/11 was right:
http://youngturks.wmod.llnwd.net/a591/o1/4-4-08yturkscrooks.wmv
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:34 PM
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6. Because he's a good dancer?
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 05:36 PM by cui bono




He was pretty good at asking some tough questions, but after I saw this I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Has his msnbc show started? I haven't been able to see it if it has.



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:01 PM
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38. I can't stand him but it's important that we monitor
their bullshit.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:33 PM
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5. Why would you think a Jew who pissed Bush off at an international news conference
(by speaking fluent French to Chirac) is a "right wing hack?"

Gregory was a Left Wing Hero for that.

    And the contempt was practically dripping off Bush when the Andover and Yale-educated president of the United States interrupted a joint press conference with the head of state in another country in order to mock a reporter who he suggested was trying to act too smart. That's what Bush famously did during the summer of 2002 at a press conference in France alongside President Jacques Chirac at the ornate Palais de l'Elysee. The questioner was NBC's David Gregory, who asked Bush why protesters in Europe objected to his foreign policy (this was before the war). And then, suddenly switching to fluent French, Gregory deftly posed the same question to Chirac.

    Bush pounced. Eying Gregory with that trademark frat boy smirk, Bush unfurled the put-down: "Very good. The guy memorizes four words, and he plays like he's intercontinental."

    "I can go on," suggested Gregory, who had once studied in Paris.

    "I'm impressed -- que bueno," Bush fired back, using the Spanish phrase for "how wonderful." He added sarcastically: "Now I'm literate in two languages."

    According to one press account, "Roars of laughter filled both the press conference room and a press filing center elsewhere in the city, where many members of the White House press corps were watching the exchange on live television."


http://mediamatters.org/columns/200709110003

David Gregory was the guy Tony Snow called "partisan." And not "GOP" partisan, either.

Video here, for those who must see to believe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czx8NzTKWEc

Such short, short memories. Such a deficit of attention.

Such a willingness to label people, ignorantly, without any justification or background.

I'd say Gregory is one of the more even-handed reporters in DC nowadays. There aren't many.

The knowledge base, or lack thereof, here astounds, at times.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:37 PM
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7. You're a disruptor ...... stop it, already, with the ......
.... facts. Its far more fun to just riff away, blissful in one's ignorance.
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karab Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:42 PM
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8. like the rest
David Gregory is just like all the media people - arrogant and self centered. Don't think he's a friend of ours - we simply share enemies.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:46 PM
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14. That's what reporters do.
Welcome to DU, again, perhaps.

You're missing a "c" by the way.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:43 PM
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9. Eh, they just can't handle the truth!
I'm amazed at the number of "Yeah, he's a BUM" affirmations this thread got before I even finished my post!!

David Gregory used to be our ONLY thorn in Bush's side when the Congress was a GOP majority. I'll wager he'll be a thorn in our side if we get the Full Monty -- the Hill and the Executive. That's what those "fair" reporters do.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:45 PM
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11. He was not a thorn in anyone's side, he was a tool for Scotty
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:47 PM
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15. Oh, really. We'll take your "evidence" anytime, now.
:rofl:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:02 PM
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19. Sadly, I'm laughing right backatcha, because you and your ilk are the enablers
the unwitting center that enables the crimes to occur. The middle way folks. I hold your philosophy in great disdain and contempt.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:15 PM
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25. Spoken like someone with absolutely NOTHING to back up their bullshit!
Well done! Good use of the dire "ilk" word, too. "Sadly" is worth a half point, especially considering the sad quality of your "retort."

And then, you follow up quite enthusiastically with the generic "enablers" theme that is an empty, absurd, overworked "internet accusation" (soon to be filed next to the ubiquitous Hitler/Nazi themes, I suspect) often dragged out by desperate, no-gamers as the "Shitfling of Last Resort!!!"

PSSST---You still haven't come up with anything to back up the shit you put out there. Calling me names isn't EVIDENCE, ya know.

I'd give a D minus, though, simply for the gutsy comeback without any substance whatsoever.

Paula, Simon, what say you?

Ooops, looks like you aren't going to Hollywood, there, dude!

...no, no....the OTHER door!!!!!!

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:28 PM
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36. a little pepto oughta take care of that
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:30 PM
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37. Three strikes, and still, nothing. Game over. Have a nice day, now!
Buh-bye!

:hi:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:46 PM
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13. David Gregory says Bush showed good judgement - I'm glad you like David
David Gregory says Bush showed good judgement for not invading Iraq immediately after 9/11


During a discussion of Obama’s spot on Hardball and the issue of responding to a crisis, cando from the comment section alerted us to this clip.

Gregory: If he talks about what you do in response to a crisis, either you have the right intelligence and you have the right response. Well, there’s not a lot of argument that Bush had the right response to 9/11. He didn’t jump to invade Iraq even though there was some argument that he should do that in the room. Number one.


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/03/david-gregory-says-bush-showed-good-judgement-for-not-invading-iraq-immediately-after-911/

David Gregory Unsure Whether Lying Damages Bush’s Credibility With Press

Days before the election, President Bush told reporters that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney would “remain with him until the end of his presidency, extending a job guarantee to two of the most-vilified members of his administration.”

The day after the election, Bush announced that Rumsfeld was being replaced. Bush admitted that he had talked to Rumsfeld about resigning and was actively searching for his replacement when he promised Rumsfeld would stay on.

Yesterday, NBC’s David Gregory acknowledged that Bush “deliberately misled those reporters.” Russert asked whether that “hurt his credibility with you and the press corps.” Gregory expressed doubt, saying that Bush “laid out his case for why he did it…so I think people see it different ways.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/13/gregory-bush-lies/

David Gregory pretended that Ann Coulter has a point: Talking to Elizabeth Edwards


GREGORY: You said rather pointedly that you think Ann Coulter is guilty of hate speech against your husband and others as well. If you strip away some of the inflammatory rhetoric against your husband and other Democrats, the point she's trying to make about your husband, Senator Edwards, running for the White House is in effect that he's disingenuous, especially on the signature issue of poverty, whether it's a $400 haircut or taking big money to speak in front of a poverty group. If you, again, strip away the inflammatory rhetoric, is that a real point of vulnerability that you have to deal with in this campaign?

This is complete and total bunk

http://mediamatters.org/items/200706300002


Yes, he's OK as compared to the regular fascist corporate whore pundits on TV
he is a DLC version.
.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:02 PM
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18. Oh, come now. You're letting facts get in the way!
You disruptor!

:sarcasm:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:06 PM
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21. Yeah, facts like Obama saying "No one could have predicted Nine One One."
That's the most interesting fact in that first link, actually.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:10 PM
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22. I thought we were discussing David Gregory?
That CORPORATE MEDIA HACK David Gregory.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:16 PM
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27. That was right in that first link!!! Or don't you read the posts AND the links before you answer?
I guess your RESPONSE above tells me that you do NOT!

:rofl:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:04 PM
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39. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Too good :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:04 PM
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20. Your post doesn't help your argument. He's saying that Bush didn't have the right INTEL.
You do know that the Commander in Chief is responsible and accountable for intel failures? It's the way it works, you see. Doubly bad when your own daddy used to run the Agency, too. Why aren't you angry at Leg Tingle Tweety, who's all over Obama like a cheap suit in your first link?

OBAMA: Well, look, I am hesitant to engage in hypotheticals like that, because…

MATTHEWS: But it has been predictable.

OBAMA: Oh, well, the — I don’t think anybody predicted 9/11. And, so, we don’t know what kinds of circumstances are going to come up.


That underlined quote is rather interesting. Maybe HE should run with Condi--they can use that PDB as a campaign flyer...

The second quote turned out to be true. I don't see what you "get" out of Gregory saying that the Washington press corps wouldn't crap on Bush despite his lying. What he said was the truth. They aren't crapping on him yet, now, are they?

On your third "point"--he acknowledged that the "rhetoric" was "inflammatory" and simply ASKED if --IF--she had a point about the haircut/house, etc. To anyone who isn't a rabid, drooling idiot, that's what is called a "softball" question--one that is phrased in such a way as to make it EASY to hit it out of the park. No matter how hard you try to make it so, "Is that a real point of vulnerability?" does NOT equate to "Isn't Coulter swell."

Funny how the Gregory revilers are in LOVE with Tingle Leg Tweety, because he gets all SEXIST on Clinton and is in LOVE with Barack, and in your SAME cite, here's HIS words about Coulter:

    During Coulter's last appearance on Hardball, in July 2006, host Chris Matthews told her, "You write beautifully," and, "You have a brilliant brain." He described her as "the picture of heaven." Then Coulter called former Vice President Al Gore a "total fag," and Matthews ended the interview by saying of Coulter, "We'd love to have her back."


As Judy often says, Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. If you're gonna cherrypick, do a better job of it.







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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:19 PM
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30. I Don't like Matthews and I don't care for your bullshit either
We can smell it all the time.


David Gregory allowed Republican strategist to claim: "Barack Obama's talked about paratroopers in Islamabad"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200803200007


NBC's David Gregory thinks we just need to "strip away" Ann Coulter's inflammatory rhetoric to listen to her points

http://www.americablog.com/2007/06/nbcs-david-gregory-thinks-we-just-need.html


NBC's Gregory, didn't challenge Romney's claims on religious test

http://www.colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200712130004

David Gregory, Byron York repeated myth of Giuliani as 9-11 hero, omitting criticism
http://mediamatters.org/items/200705120001?f=h_top

NBC's Gregory called Democrats' statements on Iraq "surprising
http://clips.mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/david_gregory

David Gregory allowed Republican strategist to claim: "Barack Obama's talked about paratroopers in Islamabad"
Thursday, March 20, 2008

Ignoring pattern of politically expedient reversals, NBC's Gregory claimed McCain "is not going to pander to the right"
Wednesday, February 13, 2008

NBC's Gregory spread McCain's false claim that Romney "disparage the service and courage" of WWII vet Bob Dole
Wednesday, February 6, 2008

NBC's Nightly News repeatedly noted Huckabee's upcoming appearance on Tonight Show without reporting he crossed picket line
Thursday, January 3, 2008

Luntz and NBC's Gregory omitted context in dubbing Giuliani and McCain attacks among "the year's best quotes"
Wednesday, January 2, 2008

Matthews, repeatedly using "cocaine," falsely asserted Clinton strategist "raised drugs"
Monday, December 17, 2007

Gregory again suggested incon
sistency in Dem candidates' statements on Iraq withdrawal
Monday, October 1, 2007

NBC's Gregory called Democrats' statements on Iraq "surprising[]" -- but they were consistent
Thursday, September 27, 2007

NBC's Gregory, Fox's Wallace did not challenge Rove's false polling claims
Tuesday, August 21, 2007

Sunday show hosts left key Rove scandal questions unasked
Monday, August 20, 2007

NBC's Gregory repeated Coulter falsehood on Today
Thursday, June 28, 2007

NBC's Gregory allowed Kerrey to falsely characterize Edwards' speech
Thursday, May 24, 2007

Gregory, Byron York repeated myth of Giuliani as 9-11 hero, omitting criticism
Friday, May 11, 2007

NBC's Gregory lumps together several GOP senators as "moderates on the war" without noting key differences
Wednesday, May 9, 2007

Despite polling to the contrary, NBC's Gregory asserted that "Bush's strength" on foreign policy, terrorism helps GOP candidates
Monday, April 9, 2007

NBC's Gregory uncritically reported McCain's claim that "Iraq is getting safer"
Thursday, March 29, 2007

Gregory omitted White House interview preconditions for a third time
Friday, March 23, 2007

Gregory again omitted White House preconditions for Congress to interview aides in U.S. attorney probe
Thursday, March 22, 2007

NBC's Gregory omitted White House preconditions for Rove, Miers interviews
Wednesday, March 21, 2007

http://clips.mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/david_gregory
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:27 PM
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35. What I provide isn't "bullshit" but thanks for playing.
Most of your "proof" consists of what the Catholics call "sins of omission." He omits, he isn't critical enough, did not challenge...

Sorry, that's all VERY weak gruel. And you had to include others to make your list have the first blush appearance of being even slightly substantial. Name ANY reporter, or pundit, or commentator, and it would be a simple matter to do the same thing with ANYONE's body of work.

But keep whining. It suits your cause. They're all out to get us! We're victimized crusaders (ewww, maybe another word, Bush wiped his ass on that one) against a brutal enemy! And, and...DAVID GREGORY!!!! He's the LATEST meanie!!!

Certainly easier than engaging on the issues!

What will you all do when Tingle Leg Tweety turns on you? You know he will.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:16 PM
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26. I remember that...
Gregory's better than the average.

With these standards some Of DU has, I imagine some are thinking we're RW shills for not automatically jumping on some of these bandwagons.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:44 PM
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10. I posted this thread on 2/14/06 when DUers were orgasming over Gregory
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:52 PM
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16. Damn right he's an act
I found his 'so called confrontation with Bush in his office' totally fake and an act.
Many called him out on that because of the footage.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:18 PM
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29. Where's your prescient post on Tweety? NT
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:46 PM
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12. When did David Gregory become a right wing hack?
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 05:46 PM by TheUniverse
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:39 PM
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42. It started when he began to fill-in on The Today Show for Matt Lauer. Am I allowed
to say he's a "f*cking whore"?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:57 PM
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17. It seems like everybody who isn't far left is a hack in these forums.
Why is that? We can't we be tolerant of others? David Gregory is actually pretty fairminded on both sides.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:12 PM
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23. RW hack?
:eyes:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:17 PM
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28. Okay. Corporate Hack.
Feel better now?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:19 PM
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31. No
Feel better now?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:20 PM
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33. Yes. I feel better letting everyone here on DU know that I think David Gregory is a Corporate Hack.
Because he is.

:hi:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:26 PM
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34. Good for you
:hi:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:32 PM
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40. Thank you.
:*
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:35 PM
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41. You're welcome
:hug:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:26 PM
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43. Anytime.
:pals:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:14 PM
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24. he's pushing his own co's poll
MSNBC/marist did one on NY voters and a McCain/Rice ticket.
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