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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:30 PM
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Memo Signed By Bush, ALLOWING TORTURE, Surfaces
This is a very long diary at Dailykos, but well-documented, and definitely worth reading...
http://www.dailykos.com/hotlist/add/2008/4/10/95033/2181/displaystory//

Here's the central point:

As detailed in the recent ABC story on how top White House officials in the National Security Council discussed specific details of torture, the Bush Administration torture policy was determined by the NSC.

Bush is the head of the National Security Counsel and the 2002 NSC decision memo in question, shown at the bottom of this post, signed by George W. Bush, establishes that Bush was indeed doing his job as acting head and final decision maker of the National Security Council.

Bush was in the torture loop: as the decider.

SNIP

The media frame on this...is that "Bush's Principal Advisors OK'd torture" but that's highly misleading because it suggests Bush was out of the loop.

SNIP

The NSC Action memo which establishes George W. Bush was the final authority in the NSC's decision making process on US torture policy, which led to an entire torture regime and concomitant legal insanity and eventually to the assertion that George W. Bush could legally order the eyes of United States citizens gouged out in the name of national security and he could also order men's testicles crushed on that premise...

That National Security Action memo has been sitting quietly in a website, at George Washington University....

SNIP

...if Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and other in the administration authorized US policy on torture without Bush's clearance they staged, in effect, a virtual coup :

bizarrely, the ABC story neglects to mention that the NSC is an executive body which helps formulate national security policy and that, at the head of it, the final authority who signs off on the national policy documents the NSC generates, the final authority who signs off on NSC policy documents, NSC resolutions, is the president: George W. Bush, the decider.







MUCH MORE DETAIL ON THIS AT:

http://www.dailykos.com/hotlist/add/2008/4/10/95033/2181/displaystory//






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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:33 PM
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1. I'm Waiting for a Collection of Snuff to Be Discovered at the White House
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:33 PM
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2. recommended, OH YEAH-- this is his ticket to war crimes tribunals...
...if he can ever be charged. Can you say smoking gun?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:36 PM
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3. The link isn't working. n/t
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:38 PM
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4. I'm not having a problem with it. n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:42 PM
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6. Here's a better link
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:40 PM
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5. Impeachment is off the table.......someone call The Hague
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:45 PM
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7. proud 5th recommendation
wow
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:51 PM
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8. Good....we have evidence!
Now who is going to do something about it?

anyone?...Beuhler?
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:08 PM
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13. lol.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:58 PM
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9. K&R n/t
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:00 PM
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10. #4 ???
"The United States will hold states, organizations, and individuals who gain control of United States personnel responsible for treating such personnel humanely and consistent with applicable law."

And what "applicable law" would that be? His "Do As We Say, Not As We Do Law?

:puke:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:01 PM
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11. He more than ALLOWED it. He AUTHORIZED it.
And when a president "authorizes" something, it becomes an ORDER to someone down the line.

It wasn't like he was "turning his head the other way" while it was being done.

It was a directive.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:02 PM
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12. Well said, Canuckistanian! n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:23 PM
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14. K & R...
:kick:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:51 PM
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15. Darth is gonna sacrifice * K&R
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 08:52 PM by bluesmail
Ironically, * is gonna be another Oswald. Edit to write, It's Not Even Friday Newsdump
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:18 PM
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16. kr
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