The Art of War

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If you're a fan, you might want to listen to tonight's show on Coast to Coast AM:

America's leading authority on Sun Tzu's The Art of War, Gary Gagliardi, will discuss the ancient Chinese principles of "winning without conflict," how they apply to the shifting situations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how these ideas can apply to our personal lives.

First Hour: Privacy expert Lauren Weinstein will talk about FBI wiretapping.

Note: Ian Punnett is the host, and I think he's very good.

www.coasttocoastam.com

EDIT: 10pm Pacific, 1am Eastern -- which is NOW.

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1. I'm listening to a show right now

this guys has quite a few shows up on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/theduderinok


Have you got another link to listen to tonghts show? I had one I have to find it!



SUN TZU ON THE ART OF WAR
THE OLDEST MILITARY TREATISE IN THE WORLD

Translated from the Chinese
By LIONEL GILES, M.A. (1910)
http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html


09- Sun Tzu - Art of War - CH 02- Waging of War...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSscYZbstkU

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3. No other link --

I just listen at

www.coasttocoastam.com

Did I not type it right, or are you having trouble connecting?

If you tell me what city you're in, I'll look up the radio affiliates if that helps.


Thanks for your links!

[seemslikeadream]

5. Oh I thought you had to sign up to listen there

haven't been paying attention, didn't they change that?

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7. Well I do subscribe

so I can listen to past shows, but I thought you could listen live without having to do that.

[EVDebs]

2. Bush's strategy of defining incompetence as competence = 'art of war' strategery

The WH advisor the other day who mentioned Sun Tzu (the Art of War) said something along those lines:

Sun Tzu and the Art of Spying
by Noah Leavitt, AlterNet. Posted January 5, 2006
http://www.alternet.org/rights/30394 /

Embedded in this article is further insight on Sun Tzu's thinking on warfare which the Bush administration appears to be taking too far,

""Deception must be ongoing, and unpredictable: "Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective.""

The incompetence and ineffectiveness of this administration is breathtaking. They REALLY are winning. The incompetence and ineffectiveness just gets better and better each and every day. I can hardly stand it. Truly in their puzzle palace of mirrors they have made Black equal White and 2 + 2 = Whatever.

They have taken Stalin and Churchill's admonishion about truth, 'In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies', to the extreme.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin (also attributed to Churchill, who probably stole it from...!)

They are making the entire American populace akin to Henry David Thoreau, who said
""Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison""

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/henrydavid13...

Look on the bright side, we'll all get three squares a day and a nice orange jumpsuit to wear in a tropical prison ! Just like the dittoheads keep telling us, that too is a lie: see Operations Cable Splicer and Garden Plot, the prisons are in some cold and outtatheway places ! Domestic spying and Nixonesque Operation Sandwedge crap all over again !

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6. Thanks!!

Bush understanding The Art of War is akin to me understanding, well, I don't know. But the thought of Bush even reading this is inconceivable. I'm surprised anyone in his WH has even heard of it.

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9. I would say with a caveat , more like with * , it's the war on art

Every vista, picture or other real or depicted scene with his persona or other effect involved seems to just kind of suck :shrug:


Trying not to be a hater, just kind of saying ya know ;-)

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4. I found another link

http://2005.kfi640.com/pages/CoasttoCoastAM.html?feed=128833&article=444303

[gateley]

8. Great! Hope it's a good one!

The first hour's guest sounds interesting as well -- it'll probably piss us off! :hi: