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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:16 AM
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"Your Daughter, Father, Friend, Yourself" Will NEVER Be Protected From These Sadists
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 09:31 AM by kpete
Sunday :: Apr 13, 2008
Torture: the Rot at the Bottom of The Barrow

BUSHCO's ROT - nothing more than an army of butchers terrorizing the whole country (World) but incapable of solving the simplest of crimes.

by Mary

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There is something horribly wrong when as a country we have a number of people who see nothing wrong with torture (the targets are evil-doers and deserve it - oh, yeah, so what about this?http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/001150.html ).

In my opinion, this one fact is enough to convince me that although people say this is a Christian country, there is nothing more anti-Christian or anti-Jesus than the idea that it is okay to torture. History shows that nothing is more likely to produce a profoundly immoral and corrupt society than torture. It is the farthest thing from a "city on the hill" that one can imagine.

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In the last days of 2005, Vladimir Bukovsky, a victim of Stalin's reign of torture and terror, wrote about the human scourge of torture. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/17/AR2005121700018.html

What he wrote about was how deeply corrupting and destructive of good governance torture is. It chases out the decent people and leaves the sadists. It guarantees that you will never be able to rely on good police work, because those who stay in such a soul-corrupting environment are the dregs of the police state. And it guarantees that normal people -- your daughter, your father, your friend, yourself -- will never be assured of being protected from being the target of the sadists.

Indeed, with the exception of the Black Death, torture is the oldest scourge on our planet (hence there are so many conventions against it). Every Russian czar after Peter the Great solemnly abolished torture upon being enthroned, and every time his successor had to abolish it all over again. These czars were hardly bleeding-heart liberals, but long experience in the use of these "interrogation" practices in Russia had taught them that once condoned, torture will destroy their security apparatus. They understood that torture is the professional disease of any investigative machinery.

Apart from sheer frustration and other adrenaline-related emotions, investigators and detectives in hot pursuit have enormous temptation to use force to break the will of their prey because they believe that, metaphorically speaking, they have a "ticking bomb" case on their hands. But, much as a good hunter trains his hounds to bring the game to him rather than eating it, a good ruler has to restrain his henchmen from devouring the prey lest he be left empty-handed. Investigation is a subtle process, requiring patience and fine analytical ability, as well as a skill in cultivating one's sources. When torture is condoned, these rare talented people leave the service, having been outstripped by less gifted colleagues with their quick-fix methods, and the service itself degenerates into a playground for sadists. Thus, in its heyday, Joseph Stalin's notorious NKVD (the Soviet secret police) became nothing more than an army of butchers terrorizing the whole country (World) but incapable of solving the simplest of crimes. And once the NKVD went into high gear, not even Stalin could stop it at will. He finally succeeded only by turning the fury of the NKVD against itself; he ordered his chief NKVD henchman, Nikolai Yezhov (Beria's predecessor), to be arrested together with his closest aides.

more at:
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012334.php
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:54 AM
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1. For someone who majored in History
Junior has a very selective and sociopathic memory.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:58 AM
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2. "Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler they consider god-fearing & pious"
~ Aristotle
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:19 AM
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And once the NKVD went into high gear, not even Stalin could stop it at will. He finally succeeded only by turning the fury of the NKVD against itself; he ordered his chief NKVD henchman, Nikolai Yezhov (Beria's predecessor), to be arrested together with his closest aides.

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