Biden On John McCain, Election And National Security

[gateley]

"When people say ‘this is the most important election in my lifetime,’ they’re right."

"When it comes to Iraq, there is no daylight between John McCain and George W. Bush. They are joined at the hip. When it comes to Iraq, there will be no change with a McCain administration… and so there is a real and profound choice for Americans in November."

"Fifteen months into the surge that President Bush ordered and Senator McCain embraced, we’ve gone from drowning to treading water. We are no closer to the President’s stated goal of an Iraq that can defend itself, govern itself and sustain itself in peace. And we’re still spending $3 billion every week and losing 30 to 40 American lives every month."

"We can’t keep treading water without exhausting ourselves. That’s what both the President and Senator McCain are asking us to do."

"They can’t tell us when, or even if, Iraqis will come together politically, which was the purpose of the surge in the first place."
They can’t tell us when, or even if, we will draw down below pre-surge levels. They can’t tell us when, or even if, Iraq will be able to stand on its own two feet. They can’t tell us when, or even if, this war will end."

"Most Americans want this war to end. They want us to come together around a plan to leave Iraq without leaving chaos behind."

"They’re not defeatists. They’re patriots who understand the national interest – and the great things Americans can achieve if we responsibly end a war that we should not have started."

"I believe it is fully within our power to do that. Then, with our credibility restored, our alliances repaired and our freedom to act renewed, we will once again lead the world. We will once again address the hopes, not play to the fears, of our fellow Americans. That is my hope for next November."

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/04/biden_on_john_mccain_election.php

[Blue_In_AK]

1. I sure wish Joe Biden had run for president.

Oh, wait....

[gateley]

2. ...

:spank: :7

EDIT: I wish I could have seen the look on my face when I read your subject line.

[livvy]

3. Even though I've never seen your face, I think I saw it...LOL

Blue gotcha'. Those darn Alaskans are a clever bunch.

:hi: to you both!

As usual Biden is the adult on the playground. People who support McSame are most definitely going down the slide backwards. If they'd only listen to the supervisor on duty...

:banghead:

[Blue_In_AK]

4. I would have been so pleased to vote for Biden...

As it is now, I feel sort of "adrift," although, of course, I would NEVER vote for John McCain, no matter who ends up being our candidate.
And thank you for noticing how clever we Alaskans are. :rofl:

[gateley]

9. Are you kidding?

You Alaskans are KNOWN for your clever repartee!

I'm still convinced beyond any doubt that Biden was the best choice for President at this time.

[blm]

5. It's a voice I welcome on this - he was bound by a promise made to Bush in 2003-4

that he wouldn't 'politicize' the Iraq war as a campaign issue.

That was a promise he shouldn't have kept then, but I don't believe he saw the extent BushInc would lie about the war and his decisions - plus, the Dems had Bill Clinton out publicly supporting Bush on it, so it was not an easy thing to do, anyway.

[gateley]

7. I always look to Biden

in matters of foreign policy. He EXPLAINS the situations so I can better understand.

I'd barely even heard about Pakistan until he brought it up in a debate, for example. It wasn't in the news and none of the other candidates alluded to it.

[Bucky]

13. Maybe this is why the PTBs were pushing Clinton on us for the last 8 years

[bdamomma]

6. oh, too bad this man wasn't chosen to sit behind that desk.

so sad, again, we will vote against our own best interests, if they go with mc same, that will be it for me.

[gateley]

8. You know I agree!

I was thinking that -- and telling that to my best friend a little earlier -- when I was watching Obama's speech to a group of Veterans. I was impressed by Obama's understanding and commitment, but I was thinking if Joe had been the one speaking....

[bdamomma]

10. Obama has got the young people behind him, the young people

play a major role in this election. Do you see young people going towards mc sane :puke: nope.

oops this is the wrong forum for this kind of response. Yes, I miss Biden, he better stay on top of things.

[gateley]

12. It is painful for me to say this,

but my nephew is considering voting for McCain. His first time voting - he's 18. I don't understand what went wrong, and I hold my brother totally responsible. Although my brother would never vote for McCain, he should have been discussing politics OR AT LEAST THE FUCKING IRAQ WAR while Sean was in his formative years.

I also don't think my brother would say anything about Sean voting for McC. Whereas if I were back in Seattle, I'd have taken him by the ear and educated him! This is something that REALLY upsets me.

That being said, :), I felt a sort of resentment when Obama entered the race NOW. I felt he should have waited until we were at least out of Iraq. But it's BECAUSE of Obama that so much interest and involvement has occurred in the voting populace. I will be pleased to vote for him, and find myself feeling more and more confident that he can do the job. Just not as good as Joe. :(

[bdamomma]

15. you know alot of people are just not listening, this choice

for mc same would be like self suicide, really this man does not know anything, even Biden said him and george are joined at the hip, why would Americans vote for this death and destruction and the Middle Class being stomped out and just illegal invasions all the time. American minds have been dumbed down for a long time, or brainwashed is more like it. Very sad.

[DFW]

11. Joined at the HIP????

From the looks of things, I'd say they are joined at the Expletive Deleted.

[gateley]

14. !!!

:rofl:

[bdamomma]

16. mc same sold his soul to bushie.

uck, what a picture.