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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:36 PM
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New Progressive Israel Lobby to counter far right AIPAC
For too long, the far right Israel lobby has shouted anti-Semitism to scare American politicians away from questioning Israel's dealing with their Arab neighbors. By contrast, J Street represents Americans, primarily but not exclusively Jewish, who support Israel and its desire for security as the Jewish homeland, but ALSO the right of the Palestinians to a sovereign state of their own and peaceful resolution of Arab-Israeli conflicts.

More at link:

http://www.jstreet.org/
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:40 PM
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1. Thank you for posting. We joined.
I can't believe the American Jewish lobby is as short sighted as AIPAC and Joe Lieberman.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:23 PM
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9. it would be comparable if another country acted as if all Americans were neocons
and yielded without complaint to our most bloody and disastrous policies for fear of being labeled anti-American.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:50 PM
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13. The UK does just that - and so for that matter does Israel.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:07 PM
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14. and rightly so. Just as we should be free to criticize the policy of any other country.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:23 AM
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17. It's a good thing that the UK followed the Bushies blindly into Iraq?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:28 AM by LeftishBrit
I think you may have misunderstood my post - my point was that the governments of allied countries in recent times *have* tended to follow RW American leaders too uncritically.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:33 PM
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19. sorry, I thought you meant the people. As for Israel, it's debatable who is the tail and who is the
dog in that relationship.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:47 PM
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2. Thank you for posting this. K&R EOM
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:20 PM
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3. Hell, I think I might join.
It's a great idea.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:21 PM
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4. This new group has my admiration. Most Americans don't know that
Between 1985 and 1999, people in at least eighteen various politial groups of moderates were decimated - sometimes by the kooks who were Palestinian fanatics, and sometimes by the kooks who were neo con Israelis. (Usually you can't even tell. There are agents and double agents and double double agents kinda things going on.)

Being moderate and for peace and justice is not a safe thing to be or do.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:19 PM
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16. According to the history books, being for peace often got you a bullet. See Gandhi or MLK.
The moderates inside Israel have always been railroaded by Likudniks, and the moderates in the West Bank have been blocked or even killed by the fanatics bent on no peace.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:28 PM
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5. I'll check them out...
sound like a group I would like to join. Finally.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:41 PM
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6. This is good news.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 07:42 PM by skypuddle
For far too long, AIPAC has conflated their position as being synonymous to the position of all American Jews, a proposition that though ridiculous, has gained far too much traction because there was never an effective organized Jewish voice to counter theirs.

Looks like that's about to change.

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:42 PM
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7. Awesome
I like this group's ideas much better.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:44 PM
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8. Just don't let Brent Scowcroft near it!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:04 AM
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10. K&R for voices too long drowned out
by the Mighty Wurlitzer!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:35 PM
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11. donkey shorn
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:43 PM
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12. Thanks for the Link
kick
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:11 PM
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15. I'm neither American nor Jewish, but I can do three things:
1) Emphatically declare, "Me likey!"
2) K
3) R
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:56 AM
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18. Looks like a very good organization!
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