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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:43 AM
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I have a message for all so-called Democrats who are favoring McCain...



WASHINGTON - Republicans are no longer underdogs in the race for the White House. To pull that off, John McCain has attracted disgruntled GOP voters, independents and even some moderate Democrats who shunned his party last fall.

Partly thanks to an increasingly likable image, the Republican presidential candidate has pulled even with the two Democrats still brawling for their party's nomination, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo news poll released Thursday. Just five months ago — before either party had winnowed its field — the survey showed people preferred sending an unnamed Democrat over a Republican to the White House by 13 percentage points.


http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/17843624.html
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:45 AM
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1. Hey - just my sentiment toward all things Clinton.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:46 AM
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2. Whatever....n/t
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:51 AM
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3. Flag pin question origin
Here's a website including info about the lady that asked the flag lapel pin question in the ABC debate, Nash McCabe. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/us/politics/04penn.html?fta=y
Turns out she was an Obama-hater all along. She claims that she just focuses on the fact that Obama doesn't wear a flag pin whenever she sees him. Keep in mind that this lady is recently unemployed. Commonsense would tell you she should worry about her job and not a flag pin. What an idiot.
Pass this info along.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:53 AM
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4. This is the kind of petty bullshit that is destroying us as a nation..
welcome H4E, do you hale from the Commonwealth?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:15 AM
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18. Sadly,
..."hokies4ever" seems to hail from SPAMisota.
All six of his DU posts are that identical paragraph. :(
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:55 AM
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5. I cannot express how deeply I hate the "flag-pin" question.
How incredibly petty and inconsequential can it get?

That's the state of politics in America these days.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:44 AM
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15. Patriotic AMericans, Get your Flag Pin made in Taiwan!
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:08 AM
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17. Does it come packaged with a yellow magnetic ribbon too?
I mean, hell, might as well go all the way to prove what patriotic Americans we all are.

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:11 AM
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12. Obama can't win without Hillary supporters and Hillary can't win without Obama supporters, so
dems had better get their shit together and start going affair mccain.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:29 AM
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14. aint that the flipping truth....and it seems like supporters of both
candidates can't get this thru their heads
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:06 AM
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20. I'm getting there too. But McCain, when this stuff is over will go into
the toilet. He isn't likable and he's a dimwit.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:55 AM
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6. I don't see why people think McCain can win
Look at the primary turnout numbers - 2:1 Democrat in state after state after state.

Look at the fundraising numbers - the two Democrat candidates EACH have out-raised McCain by massive amounts.

I don't agree, either, that McCain has 'attracted disgruntled GOP voters'. I'm not sure what the source of the claim is, but that's not what I see when I look at what the other side is saying, and the lack of donations to the McCain campaign confirm my assessment.

Plus, there's the Bush factor. McCain is too like Bush to escape the well-justified wrath of the electorate.

Finally, there's the economy. Incumbent parties don't get re-elected when the economy is tanking left and right.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:00 AM
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9. The corporate media drives the race..
they will make sure it's close.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:49 AM
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16. The same corporate media that drove away Edwards and left us with these two. No one much cared
about that. Edwards was polling nationally to beat McCain. Couldn't have that, now could we? I don't give rat's ass anymore. I'll vote for the nominee, straight Dem ticket, like I always do, but I don't have much "faith" that either of these two can pull off a win. :shrug:
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:59 AM
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7. McCain's Numbers Mean Nothing
Polls taken against the two candidates mean absolutely nothing right now. I will believe the PULL EVEN when its McCain against one Democratic candidate.

They are comparing a united republican party candidate to ONE or THE OTHER possible Democratic party candidate.

Don't tell me the polls are taken comparing head to head. You are still comparing a republican candidate to a POSSIBLE Democratic candidate. Apples and Oranges.

When each party has a candidate then I might pay more attention to the polls.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:00 AM
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8. My dear, you have a knack for finding exactly the right image.
I love it!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:06 AM
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10. We Know Who Are Real Enemy Is...And It Ain't Gramps...
After Gibsons and Streptacocolli's awful performance last night, if you can't see that our biggest opponent this year is the corporate media...they're enabling Gramps and already creating a narrative for the general election as if its some self-fulfilling prophesy.

Gramps is enjoying a honeymoon right now. No tough questions, no accountablity for his "straigh talk" bullshit and a cadre of corporate stenographers who think American needs a president it can have a beer with rather than can actually do the job. I'm hopefully my disgust is shared by others. It's gotten real bad out on the airwaves in the past couple week.

And if Camp Clinton thinks this is helping...they've lost a lot more than they realize. For some the "Clinton Legacy" will be this disastrous campaign...and how they chose to destroy the party for their own power and greed. It hurts me to write this about the Clintons...but enough of this shit is enough.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:11 AM
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11. We've got to take control now, or I'm afraId it's never for us..
I believe the Internet is one of our best weapons against corporate media. How long before they take that from us as well? Who knows.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:24 AM
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13. Amen...It's Our Salvation And Our Voice
Looking back on 2000 and 2004, I'm grateful for the blogosphere. They've been my sanity and salvation all these years and you are very right, it's our best and only weapon to fight back the corporate media elitist prism. The voters aren't being fooled as easily this year. I see it when I canvass my area...they don't care about Reverend Wright or who they can have a ahot and a beer with...they're looking at a collapsing country and they know which party is responsible for this mess. Nothing the corporate media replaces losing a job, a home, life savings, hope...

Cheers...
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:17 AM
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19. I had to be the 5th rec
because people who talk about voting for McCain when they call themselves Democrats can kiss my ass.
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