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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 AM
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How long is Pope-apalooza going to last?
Everyday he is somewhere else and the MSM is covering him like crazy. Maybe they want to follow him so closely in order to prevent the disappearance (and diddling) of little boys somewhere while he is in the country.

The way that we swoon after foreign royalty and religious figureheads in this country, you'd be hard pressed to remember that we rose up to overthrow them when we founded this country.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:00 AM
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1. are you really all that discusting! Seems so..
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:03 AM by Oleladylib
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:31 AM
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6. The Pope protected the rapists. Maybe you'll feel differently when you read this
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:34 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
It isn't that the child sexual happened in his church and he had no knowledge of it. He pro-actively covered it up


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection

Pope 'obstructed' sex abuse inquiry

Confidential letter reveals Ratzinger ordered bishops to keep allegations secret

Pope Benedict XVI faced claims last night he had 'obstructed justice' after it emerged he issued an order ensuring the church's investigations into child sex abuse claims be carried out in secret.

The order was made in a confidential letter, obtained by The Observer, which was sent to every Catholic bishop in May 2001.

It asserted the church's right to hold its inquiries behind closed doors and keep the evidence confidential for up to 10 years after the victims reached adulthood. The letter was signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who was elected as John Paul II's successor last week.

Lawyers acting for abuse victims claim it was designed to prevent the allegations from becoming public knowledge or being investigated by the police. They accuse Ratzinger of committing a 'clear obstruction of justice'.

The letter, 'concerning very grave sins', was sent from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office that once presided over the Inquisition and was overseen by Ratzinger.

It spells out to bishops the church's position on a number of matters ranging from celebrating the eucharist with a non-Catholic to sexual abuse by a cleric 'with a minor below the age of 18 years'. Ratzinger's letter states that the church can claim jurisdiction in cases where abuse has been 'perpetrated with a minor by a cleric'.

Continued at above link
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:28 AM
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11. The Pope is in town, so his defenders are out in force...
I was flamed for pointing out that authoritarian indoctrination leads to sexual abuse...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3177895&mesg_id=3177931
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:50 AM
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14. You were flamed at first, but when you showed them the proof, you put out their
fire.

I have posted my link throughout the week, ever since I was awakened to this a week ago Friday night by Bill Maher on Real Time. His last New Rule was how the Pope covered up the child sexual abuse and if he was the CEO of the largest chain of childcare facilities in the country, he would be in prison now. Once I posted the link, not one response back.

The fact is, that this Pope is being treated with reverence and it is getting me sick to my stomach, the same sickness and rage I feel knowing that this sociopathic administration is not being shunned, and not being held accountable for their crimes.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:58 AM
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16. Besides just the entire idiocy of a papalcy, Ratzo's face makes me frickin cringe




...and his Hitler youth picture

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coriolis Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:53 AM
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15. Seems quite a few people like that old nazi bastard.
:eyes:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:44 PM
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19. Yeah!! Discusting!! Discussting, even!!
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:01 AM
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2. Probably until he finally gets that tall hat sewn back together . . .
nt
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:05 AM
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3. If they weren't going gaga over the Pope
They would be covering some other nonsense.

There are thousands of news events happening every day, many very important and most never reported by our media. Our media can be relied upon to pick the least important item to obsess over and ignore everything else.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:24 AM
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4. I'd like to see and hear more of our problems. Perhaps the Pope has
an insight to our down fall and is here to give us light?
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty was two inches tall
He fell down and broke his shell
Poor little egg, The Pope wished him well.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:25 AM
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5. Until no little boy goes unmolested
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:34 AM
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7. Thank You!
I've been disgusted by all the coverage. I don't understand why people get all in a lather over some old guy that believes in voodoo shit. I do admire him for meeting sex abuse victims but the Catholic religion causes a lot of misery around the world.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:36 AM
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8. See my post #6. Did he admit to being part of the cover-up when he met with the abuse victims?
I don't think so.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:17 AM
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13. I am just bewildered that "meeting with the victims" is assumed to be "healing" for them.
If my local bank is robbed, I damn well expect the police to do more than sit down with the bank managers and say, "We are so very sorry this happened to you, this incident was indeed unfortunate, and let us say again how very sorry we are that this happened, and we truly hope it won't happen again."

I somehow doubt that would bring "healing" for the bank managers.

People who commit crimes should be prosecuted for them, whether it's robbing a bank or raping a child. Civilized peoples call it "justice."
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:01 AM
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17. When I think of all of this, the Pope's reception I just feel it's the same old same
as we have a criminal administration that has not been held accountable for their crimes. We have a Democratic Speaker of the House, who still treats the sociopath in chief with deference instead of shunning him and seeking justice.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:42 AM
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9. They went on for more than 20 minutes
on the Saturday morning show. Info-tainment.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:17 AM
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10. he`s god messengerfor all us dumb folks who can`t think.
why does anyone care about a guy who surrounds himself with gold and mutters gibberish about how god wants us to live our lives and enrich the his "church".

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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:32 AM
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12. When he lives modestly like jesus and repudiates his former title of
head inquisitor and his nazi past (other than just 'everyone was doin' it') I'll accept him as a man of god. Until then I am reminded that that infallibility clause was sheer politics and established in the 1860's, about the same time they got all weepy about fetuses, thanks.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:40 PM
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18. Don't worry.
The Pope won't be around to insult your fine intelligence much longer; he leaves tomorrow evening.

I find the intolerance on this board toward people of faith -- any faith -- astounding. Whatever happened to common courtesy? The other day, all someone did was ask a simple question about attending a Catholic mass, and this person got flamed half to death. All this talk about "tolerance," but the general view around here seems to be "There is no God, and anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot." How "tolerant" is that? I have no interest in such an arid, bleak belief sysytem (and that is just what atheism is, a belief system). Contrast this with the Church's teaching that all religions possess at least a small part of the truth about the divine nature.

It is true that in the 2,000 years of the Church's existence, there has been much evil perpetrated in the name of Christ. Those responsible, be they popes, priests, monks, nuns, or laypeople male or female, will be called before God to account for their actions one day. But the Church has also been responsible for much good, ever since the days when the earliest Christians were picking up abandoned babies off the streets of Rome. This work in the world, which Christ commands us to do, has continued even during the Church's darkest times. It continues today through Catholic Charities and innumerable other Christian philanthropic organization, Catholic and non-Catholic alike.

For many of us, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, the Pope's visit has been historic and enjoyable. We hope it was for him as well. We see no reason to let the naysayers to spoil it for us.

Thank you for listening. We now return you to your regularly scheduled free-floating hostility.
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