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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:16 AM
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Of course someone asks are they still victims if they never realize it?
NOFX LYRICS

"Pimps And Hookers"

give it up for workin stiffs
and those who sell their bodies,time and future
the popular people who can shout and spread
a catchy rationalization
lets give a cheer for androids, robots,
servants and their masters
"blind leading the blind" and "slavery is freedom"
starts to resound
everyone knew madison
she came to hollywood
a couple buttons short
couldnt keep her story straight
she had a drawer full of poisons,
punctures, pictures of victims

of course someone asks are they still victims if
they never realize it?
go ask a PA minor breathing blackness smoking 3 pack camels
loyal americans who love their collar colored
for 40 hours
a spade is still a spade, a collar is still
a collar
whether it be blue or white
its still around your neck,
the silk leash nice and tight
your wife helped pick it out
the irony is
that your worked 3 hours for it
you wish you
could ignore it

you're a hooker.

start to realize its true
they sniff their coke you huff your glue
pimps and prostitutes
buisnessmen in monkey suits
on their knees
licking corporate boots
suckin up jumping through hoops
pimps and wall street ho's
work the street in business clothes
blows jobs, rimming, sucking cock,

they're getting laid while you're getting laid off.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:18 AM
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1. It's like saying slaves liked slavery because they they weren't always shackled and didn't run away
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:26 AM
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2. But I bet they wouldn't appreciate somebody showing up and taking
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 11:32 AM by lizzy
all their children.
If you think these mothers are victims (even if they don't think so), why do you advocate taking their children from them?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:42 AM
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3. Just because the women are victims doesnt give them the right to allow their children to be victims
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:02 PM
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4. I think the loss of the children is temporary
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 12:02 PM by Warpy
but consider that some of the children were already taken from their mothers when the cult branched off into Texas.

Consider also that they're having to do DNA tests to match children up with their mothers because the children were already separated from mothers and warehoused in dormitories. Some of those kids have no clue who Mom is, although the mothers can probably tell them apart.

In other words, all this family values moaning is just that. There is nothing in that cult that remotely approaches a family as we understand the word. It was a sex farm, used to raise female breeding stock.

Those kids won't be safe until and unless all those patriarchs and prophets are in the clink for the institutionalized sexual, emotional and physical abuse of women and children.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:24 PM
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6. The poster apparently likes to ignore the fact that there is a clear
process by which the parents may seek the return of their children. In TX it takes a couple years and a jury if the parents want it, to permanently remove the kids.

The children are in protective custody for now. They will be placed in more permanent situations over the coming weeks - some with other family members outside the compound, some in foster care or group housing.

The children's cases will be divided up at this point, and each will have their own advocate/guardian ad litem and independent proceedings to determine what is best for each individual child. Several of the mothers have already said IN COURT that they would gladly leave their husbands and the cult to get their kids back.

I am really puzzled as to why any sane person would object to this and prefer the kids be returned immediately to a ritual abuse concentration camp.

I think we have a number of FLDS "tools" here whose assignment is to lie, confuse, obfuscate, and rant about the constitution. They are fools if they think we or the state of TX are gonna stop caring about the CHILDREN'S safety.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:54 PM
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7. What cult? - What the hell are you talking about?...
This song is about working stiffs
It has nothing to do with the Texas story
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:15 PM
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5. Why do you support the perpetuation of ritual child rape?
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