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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:33 PM
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Snakebite Prevention ..... a very important question.
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 03:35 PM by Botany
The great political mind of W.C. Fields is quoted as saying,
"I only drink to prevent snakebite and just in case I also carry
around a small snake." Now it is getting warm around here and
Lord knows those cold blooded killers are getting active should
I have a glass of white wine, muscat, to protect myself?





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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:35 PM
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1. I'm not sure one glass is going to be enough
:scared:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:37 PM
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4. Thanx
Wanna bet how many posts before a "stick up the butt liberal"
says, this "Lounge Stuff" because D.U. is super duper party
pooper Important and can't you move this please Mods?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:29 PM
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12. What a waste of bandwidth. Don't you know we're dealing with important issues here?
Like that? whine whine whine.

Drunk snakes are Bad News.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:36 PM
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2. Red works better
Be sure and save the bottle to whack the snake.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:37 PM
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3. IBTL!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:40 PM
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6. You said "whack the snake"
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:27 PM
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31. oh Geez
You guys and your gutter minds.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:52 PM
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39. And you call yourself a liberal!
ALL elitists KNOW that white wine goes with snake (since snake tastes like chicken).
I am APPALLED.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:39 PM
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5. Vodka works best.
Scares the shit out of them.

I stumbled upon my neighbor, the Black Racer yesterday, and he slithered away like hell.

Now, if I can find something for gators.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:41 PM
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7. Oh just keep feeding them raw chicken about 2Xs per week
Nothing bad could come of that.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:26 PM
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11. I've got a couple Black Racers that make a living around my office....
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 04:27 PM by A HERETIC I AM
One around 2 1/2 feet long and the other about 4 feet long. They aren't known as "racers" for nothing. Damn things are fast. They get aggressive, too. Corner one and it will strike - even come after you.



Very cool animal. When they feel threatened, they will vibrate, as if they have a rattle. Completely non poisonous, but like I said, they can be aggressive.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:38 PM
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14. Mine are pretty docile.
One day, I opened the garage door to bring the garbage cans in, and about a 4 footer was laying in the driveway sunning itself. I walked around it got the cans, walked around it again, put the cans away, and walked around it a third time. When I got in my car, I hit the garage door opener, and the door came down on his head. I opened the door, waited for it to move, and it did nothing, so I got a stick, and moved him out of the way, and the door came down on him again.

This time I pushed him further away, and put the door down again. He was OK then, but before I backed out, I saw him slithering under a small gap in the weather stripping at the bottom of the door.

My wife always tells me to keep the garage door closed, so that nothing comes in there. I didn't tell her that I left it open to let something out!:rofl:

She would have shit!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:43 PM
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15. Are you close to water?
Just start putting raw chicken on gator paths right by the water .....
let them learn that humans are a good food source. With a little
luck you can get them eating out of your hand.

BTW isn't over 5 feet when the people from Florida come and make
gator go bye-bye?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:55 PM
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16. I was talking about a Black Racer.
We have them around the house. I wouldn't fuck with a 4 foot gator for any reason.

And yes, I have the Anclote River across the street. A seawall behind the houses over there keeps everything in there. There's a lot of gators in there, and yesterday I saw 2 manatees and a dolphin, around the corner at the golf course. They had one gator on the course who was nearly 15 feet long, until last year, but he never bothered anybody. When they got rid of him, they had to pull him out of the lake with a tow truck.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:02 PM
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18. neat


15' feet is a lot of gator
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:09 PM
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19. Neat
I live about a mile to the right of that image, right above the Pasco, Pinellas county line. The golf course is on Flora Ave, and I'm 4 blocks from there.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:57 PM
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8. No. Alcohol just makes you stupid and cocky
and more likely to do something stupid like try to pet a rattlesnake.

Every snake bite case I saw here in 18 years involved a drunk.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:13 PM
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9. No them rattles are like a kitten purring
Ya'll say i'z a too drunk ....
watch dis I can pet that rattler on the head and sip my beer at the
same time.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:34 PM
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13. Yeeeouch.. brings back bad memories.. I was bitten by a poisonous snake
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 04:35 PM by SoCalDem
when i was about 8 or 9.. We lived in Panama, and they are almost all poisonous there.. I never saw the damned thing, and we didn't catch it, so I had to have a BUNCH of the different anti-venom treatments.. My hand swelled to about the size of a boxing glove and it hurt like HELL..


probably one of these guys
http://www.serve.com/CZBrats/Facts/snakes.htm
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:13 PM
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10. Down here in Florida, they'd pass a law.
Making it illegal for rattlesnakes to drink. Drunken, obnoxious little hissers.

The Florida Legislature is capable of anything. Fucking up the primaries, and trying to outlaw Truck Nutz!

When Truck Nutz are outlawed, only outlaws will have Truck Nutz!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:58 PM
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17. the eastern diamondback is no little snake
Although they need real wild to live .... every time I see
a nature show about rattlesnakes w/ the idiot who
picks 'em up because he cares .... and they show a
"wild Island" where they live .... I yell @ the T.V. ....
just go on and leave them alone. Now there is a tough
ass snake.

And that is why you need your snakebite medicine.


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:17 PM
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20. Haven't seen any of those around the neighborhood.
Don't want to either. tho, they're here. I have seen a pygmy rattler, a smaller version. That's one reason I wear motorcycle boots to mow the lawn. I'm from Cleveland, and we don't have that shit up there.

The lady behind me claims to have killed a coral snake in her yard last year, although they've been found in our county, I think she mis-identified it.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:45 AM
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21. In Cleveland?
Coral snakes are native to the American Southwest. She must have seen a king snake.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:51 AM
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25. Florida
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:45 AM
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23. Black on yeller will kill a feller. n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:33 PM
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32. "Take Your Rattlesnake To Work Law" just introduced in the state house YEEHAW!
On account of the Freedom of Religion for Christians.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 04:59 AM
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22. I live around copperheads--the snake you posted
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 05:14 AM by marions ghost
A#1--Learn their habits. Copperheads are generally ground -dwelling and in low moist places, so look out around rocky areas near creeks and streams. They are most active in autumn. Be careful about low ground cover plants and keep paths and walks clear of leaves. They seem to love construction piles, esp sheetrock. Turn over debris piles with a rake. Use flashlights outside at night if you live in an area with a lot of them, esp in fall. I have run across copperheads many times. Usually they scurry away pretty quick. They aren't very aggressive. If you think killing a snake helps deter them, forget it. If they like the habitat, they'll just fill the niche left by any who get axed. Kind of like thinking the death penalty for humans is a crime deterrent.

EXTRAPOLATING...as we enter the period of power shift that must take place in this country... Snakes are everywhere. We need to be vigilant and know their habits. Never underestimate them. Some people have (what appears to us as) sneaky snake-like habits. They tend to work in darkness, behind the scenes. They are insidious. Know their habits. Recognize their types. Avoidance is good but exposing them is more important. They don't like exposure. If you have to tangle with them, try not to be drunk.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:08 AM
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24. I kept a hoe near the woodpile at the mountain house.
I would pull hickory logs off the pile with the hoe. Copperheads weren't a problem in the winter, but I used a lot of hickory in the summer cooking on the smoker. Snakes were a big problem then. I would kill the copperheads that came out of the woodpile with the hoe, because Nick-Nick was usually close by and curious.

I left the hoe for the fellow who bought my mountain house. He called me a few months later to tell me that he broke the hoe handle killing a copperhead that came from the woodpile.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:58 PM
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34. Broke the hoe? He only had to whack him once. And not that hard
:rofl:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:27 PM
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37. Don, he was hysterical when he called me about the snake!
"Mac! I killed a copperhead in the woodpile! A copperhead!" He was insinuating that I sold him the property without disclosing the fact that snakes live in the Blue Ridge Mountains.

But I HAD told him about the possibility of copperheads in the woodpile (and elsewhere). He had grandkids who would be spending time there. I reminded him of this when he called. I reminded him that I had even left a hoe at the woodpile and that I had instructed him as to the use of that hoe.

Then he calmed. "Oh, yeah. The hoe. Well, I broke the handle killing the snake."

City-slicker.

:rofl:
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:03 PM
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35. I've never seen a dead snake bite. So the one you kill is
definately deterred.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:49 PM
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40. it's overkill
if the snake hasn't threatened you. I'm talking about copperheads...if the snake were some kind of death adder or the one the Chinese call "5 steps" (til you die) I might feel more like killing them. No point in killing copperheads because their cousins just show up the next morning. It might make you feel better but it doesn't do a thing to lower the population.
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MadinMo Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:00 AM
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26. Eegad. Those snakes creep me out! YI YI YI!!!!
I live in a rural area and this time of year I begin to dread every little movement in the grass. Then there is the clinking under the kitchen sink which signals the resident black snake looking for his mouse dinner. As long as I can't see him, he can stay, and he better not be there when I need something under the sink.

Those pictured copperheads are mighty healthy!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:33 AM
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27. Will ouzo work?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:46 AM
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28. I've already run across my first Copperhead for the year
It always gets my attention when I run across one. I'm not particularly afraid of them, but I give them all the room they want.
What I see most of is black snakes, but there are rattlers and copperheads here along with all the usual small snakes. My wife is terrified of them, however I rarely kill a snake, no matter what kind. Just about the only ones I kill are the ones that make it into the house.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:16 PM
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30. I have a brother who owns about 500 acres of these oklahoma hills and a sawmill business
and he was out making his rounds late one day last fall and came upon a big assed timber rattler, 52 or so inches long with something like 24 rattlers that had been hit by a brushhog earlier that day, it was tore up pretty badly but the rattler was still intact so younger brother goes back to the sawmill and gets an axe so he can cut the tail off and by the time he got back there it took a little bit as the sawmill was about a half mile away and anyway when he found it again, almost dark by then, and when he swung and hit the snakes body to cut the rattler off the snake which wasn't dead and had only been playing 'possum and it struck at him and left a fang mark in his boot so he didn't get bit but he said you talk about waking up, he did.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:15 PM
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36. I went frog gigging in the bayous of Missouri at midnight once when I was real young
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 02:20 PM by NNN0LHI
I noticed all my wifes relatives were loading cases of beer and several 12-gauge shotguns into the boat and thought to myself good lawd what have I got myself into here?

We were probably a hundred miles from the nearest hospital and here I was with a bunch of drunks with guns. Oh, shit I said. We were going underneath downed trees laying over the bayous and I am thinking to myself if a snake flops into our boat I will either die from fright or blast a huge hole into the bottom of the boat and be swimming with the snakes because I had decided that there wasn't going to be enough room in that boat for a snake and me.

Every time someone flashed the spotlight behind us all you could see was hundreds of sets of little snake eyes following the light. Our light. Sheez what an experience. I bet them boys went through two boxes of shotgun shells shooting at snakes that night. I don't think they ever hit one.

I never did gig a frog because I was too terrified of the other stuff going on.

That was my last frog gigging trip too.

Don
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:59 AM
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29. I grew up living out in the boonies where a snake in the house was something to remove
Years ago a friend and I was out on our weekly route checking out our gardening skills and collecting samples and it was getting on about dark and we were heading back to the car and all of a sudden he grabed me by the arm and said give me the light, I was carrying a flashlight, I got the heebeejeebee's, first time I ever heard the word btw. I handed him my flashlight and he turned it on and sure enough there was a pile of copperheads a good 2 foot in diameter and over a foot high, they were everwhere, needless to say my feet never hit the ground until I was back in the vw bug. I cleared a pretty new 7 wire bobbedwire fence flat footed, sailed over that sucker like a dear running for his life. I was cause I was scared shitless. gives me the willies just thinking about it. (skin crawling big time)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:45 PM
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38. I was walking through high grass around some rocks and kicked a ...
... copperhead in s.e. Ohio years ago .... i must have jumped 5 feet in the
air and run 100 yds before I came to the idea .... the snake didn't bite
me.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:56 PM
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33. You should give warning with this post I know people who faint dead away just from photos of snakes
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:56 PM by NNN0LHI
Spiders too.

Don
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