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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:28 PM
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Why flowers have lost their scent...
Pollution is dulling the scent of flowers and impeding some of the most basic processes of nature, disrupting insect life and imperilling food supplies, a new study suggests.


The potentially hugely significant research – funded by the blue-chip US National Science Foundation – has found that gases mainly formed from the emissions of car exhausts prevent flowers from attracting bees and other insects in order to pollinate them. And the scientists who have conducted the study fear that insects' ability to repel enemies and attract mates may also be impeded.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/why-flowers-have-lost-their-scent-812168.html

Those bastards.

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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:30 PM
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1. ..
:cry: This is so very sad. I am not a "technical" kinda gal but I do love my flowers, and am familiar with many.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:31 PM
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2. When bees and birds die in our back yards we are in
peril ourselves. Thanks for the reminder. Celebrate Earth Day.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:37 PM
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6. Yes, if the bees die out, we will have mass starvation
on a scale never seen before as so many of our crops require them for pollination.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:45 PM
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about 30 percent of human crops are insect pollinated....
Not all by bees, but bees certainly do a lot of that work. Still, the majority of human staple crops are wind pollinated.

I don't mean to suggest that loss of the ecosystem services provided by bees would not be catastrophic, but only want to correct the general perception that a majority of crops are bee pollinated. Most, in fact, are wind pollinated.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:00 AM
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14. Considering the starvation already in effect from food shortages, a 30% drop is a
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 10:01 AM by Uncle Joe
pretty big chunk.

I would imagine there would be a domino effect as well even on the growth of wind pollinated crops from the loss of human caloric energy, if nothing else, should bees become extinct. Also as the world's food choice sources narrow by almost a third, human subsistence would face increasing risk from crop disease, ie; the potato blight on a global scale.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:32 PM
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3. ah .... .Dogwoods have no smell
:rofl:
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:18 AM
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15. those are roses nt
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:33 PM
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4. I live in a very rural area far from pollutants.
A apiarist down the road keeps about 150 hives and about 50 on our property. He had a 70 percent die off this winter. Scary.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:36 PM
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5. Haven't roses been bred not to smell?
Didn't I read that recently, or am I making that up?

Horticulturists have been going after other attributes in roses, making them hardier, more disease and weather resistant, but leaving the fragrance out of it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:45 PM
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7. Tons of info here.
http://www.huntingtonbotanical.org/Rose/about.htm

If you get to LA you've got to see these gardens (near Pasadena in San Marino). They have vines there that are well over a hundred years old and the smell is amazing. One of the things our guide said was that many contemporary strains are bred exclusively for color/appearance and have little or no smell at all.



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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:51 PM
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13. The Barbra Streisand smells pretty good. No joke.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:58 PM
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8. Flowers have not lost their scent
pollution in the air reduces the travel distance of the scent of flowers. Bees have to be closer to the flowers to find them.

flowers have the same scent. it's just that other crap in the air is drowning out their smell.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:26 PM
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11. I think that's more plausible
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 05:26 PM by Canuckistanian
From my experience, Lilacs and Milkweeds certainly haven't lost their scents over the years.

I also suspect that cross-pollination with man-made varieties may also be a culprit here. We don't value scent as much as appearance in our garden flowers, and that may have short-circuited the natural process of producing lovely smells for the bees.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:34 PM
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12. that's what the study said. the headline wasn't quite clear
but the study says molecules of air pollution are inhibiting the travel of flower scent molecules.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:24 PM
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10. wow. that's hugely significant. and bad news.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:18 AM
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16. kicking to save life on earty


arrest the neo cons
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