McCain and other Rethugs don't want to talk about the FLDS or polygamy in their states

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0605/S00396.htm

Senator John McCain Passes The Buck On Polygamy

To be fair, while the FLDS, America's largest polygamy cult, is incorporated in Utah -- members live and vote on either side of the Utah-Arizona border. That means media darling John McCain's (R--AZ) stance on polygamy is also an issue { Scoop: Reports Reconfirm Hatch Said He Condones Polygamy}, particularly because of McCain's 2008 US presidential aspirations.

McCain twice ducked my requests for comment for articles on polygamy, first in 2000 for the front page of the Weekend Financial Times Seven brides for one brother: Plural marriage is rife in the western United States, and then for a piece that ran March 2005 both in Scoop and CounterPunch, where I noted:

"Arizona is even less responsive on the Babyland issue . John McCain (R - AZ), who is incensed about Iraq POW humiliation, takes campaign contributions in part from Mohave County where the FLDS is headquartered on the Arizona side of the border. McCain failed to comment for my Financial Times October 2000 cover story on polygamy and his assistant press secretary, Crystal Benton, told me last year regarding the Babyland matter that his schedule was "too hectic" for him to make a statement, although she wouldn't want it to be reported that the Senator had "no comment".

Funny the night before Benton told me McCain's schedule was too hectic, he appeared on MSNBC's Hardball promoting his new book (he's a frequent guest). He's also found time to host Saturday Night Live."

Finding any other comment on polygamy from either of the two US senators from Arizona - both Republicans: John McCain and John Kyl - is an exhausting exercise.

[Bobbieo]

1. Both polititical parties in Az and Utah hold back on PLDS!

From the April 19th issue of The Arizona Republic bylined Donald Wagner- headlined ‘Polygamy Ruse Leads To Arrest In Colo’

“For the past several years, the attorney generals of Arizona and Utah have carried out a targeted campaign against child marriages and other criminal conduct in the FLDS church, prosecuting (Warren) Jeffs and a number of men who married teenage girls.

Despite political pressure they refused to prosecute church members for plural marriages or conduct wholesale raids. Terry Goddard - a Democrat - and a spokesman for the Utah governor have declined to second guess the strategy employed in Texas.

Could it be that a great number of registered voters in both states are Mormons??? Something has sure held them back since the original Short creek raid in Az in 1953.

[NNN0LHI]

22. The difference is McCain is running for president

If this had been going on in Obamas or Clintons home state don't you think the media would have asked them why they didn't do something about this sooner by now?

Don

[noel711]

2. 'Pass the buck' indeed... shame on them!

This crowd is always singing the 'biblical marriage'
as a measuring stick of family values...
as ammunition against altering marriage laws
concerning gay unions.

You want true 'biblical marriage'?
YOu got it here: polygamy/patriarchy is full force,
which was the tradition through the Hebrew Scripture/
Old Testament.

What is seen in this scandal is true 'biblical marriage.'

[Bobbieo]

3. Sen. John Kyl is a Mormon. So are many of the members

of both the AZ and Utah state legislatures.

[maddezmom]

6. are you sure he is a Mormon?

wiki lists him as a Presbyterian so does votesmart
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=26721

[Bobbieo]

11. That;s not what Google said!!!

[maddezmom]

16. I just googled again

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=DGUS,DGUS:2006-26,DGUS:en&q=Jon+Kyl+religion

:hi:

[Bobbieo]

19. You are right!!!! I asked Google if John Kyl was a Mormon -

It answered John Kyl - Mormon. I get very screwed on on these answers sometimes!!!

[gratuitous]

4. Where are all the "one man one woman" yammerers?

Do the polygamists get a pass on the defense of marriage crowd? Where are they? Where's James Dobson? Why isn't this a red-light emergency for every last Republican in America? Is it because the polygamists (presumably) get their sexual jollies the standard-issue penis and vagina route, even though there isn't a 1-1 ratio involved?

[Bobbieo]

5. Just like the Draft - a vote against the PLDS in AZ/Utah will kill

political careers. It sure killed the career of Gov. Howard Pyle who spearheaded the infamous Short Creek raid in 1953.

[gratuitous]

12. But they keep saying there's nothing political to it

They all say that it's God's ineffable will or some such; that there's nothing political about the one man, one woman thing. You'd think John Cornyn would be all over this. Weren't there any box turtles at the FLDS compound? But I don't hear a peep out of the Texas delegation. Why hasn't Kay Bailey Hutchison slithered out to show us all just how concerned she is about the children?

[LisaL]

14. What if polygamists are all consenting adults, and say

they all want to live together as one big happy family?
What exactly would be your objections to them all being married?

[gratuitous]

15. I didn't say I had a problem with it

But I seem to recall over the last 20 years being inundated with all sorts of terrible predictions about what sort of calamity would be visited on our country if same sex couples could get married and enjoy all the benefits our society confers on married couples. Oh, horror of it all! Sen. Cornyn (R-TX) went so far as to opine that men would marry box turtles if they weren't restricted by law (even a constitutional amendment) to marrying only women. And just one woman, at that.

Now, here are these men, marrying several women, and as I said, not a peep out of defense of marriage crowd. I can't help but wonder why that is.

[Bobbieo]

17. Incest is a crime in all 50 states of the Union!!! Incest is my objection!!!

And that is what is being stressed in Texas!!!! Finally!

[Name removed]

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[Canuckistanian]

18. Won't they be marrying their dogs next?

Or, according to John Cornyn, Box Turtles.

[HughBeaumont]

23. Because:

One man marryin' multiple womens = justified bah the Bahble.
One woman even BEING with more than just her assigned rock/lifeblood/huzbind, much less marryin' multiple mens = HELLFAHR'N'BRIMSTONE JEZEBEL!!!

Don't patriarchies RULE?

[LisaL]

7. Would you expect democratic candidates to talk about polygamy?

[Bobbieo]

9. You're GD right I would. I'm an Arizonan and am disgusted this PLDS thing has not

not been taken care of a long time ago!!! Had it been properly squelched in 1953- and it could have been - the Texas PLDS never would have happened as they are the decendants of the Short Creek group.

[LisaL]

10. Well, it might be a little touchy subject, if you get my drift.

[Bobbieo]

13. Yeah, I get your drift- I live in a town pretty much run by Mormons!!!

[malaise]

8. Since FLDS is making spare parts for the

Military men, there must be a connection with senators in these states. Batten down the Hatch(es) McSame and Kyl.

[Bobbieo]

21. The Native Americans knew what they were doing when they set up the clan system

to avoid incest!!!BTW - most all of the people in the Teaxas compound are from TWO families - the Jessop and Barlows,