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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:49 AM
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The Peantagon has been paying media types to promote torture. Think I found one
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-propoganda-over-torture-and-iraq-revealed-812735.html

Pentagon propoganda over torture and Iraq revealed

By Leonard Doyle in Lancaster
Monday, 21 April 2008

The Pentagon and the US media have been exposed for using pre-programmed “military analysts” to win hearts and minds of Americans over the war in Iraq, torture and detentions in Guantanamo Bay.

Kenneth Allard, an NBC military analyst and teacher at National Defence University, described the propaganda exercise as a "coherent, active," sophisticated information operation."

"Night and day, I felt we'd been hosed," he said.

The New York Times revealed that close ties exist between the Bush administration and former senior officers who acted as paid TV analysts on CNN and other channels. The analysts have received private briefings, trips and access to classified intelligence to influence their comments.

Robert Bevelacqua, a retired Green Beret and former Fox News analyst, told the newspaper, "It was them (the Bush administration) saying, 'We need to stick our hands up your back and move your mouth for you.'"

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Scarborough_90_of_Americans_would_approve_1019.html

Scarborough: '90% of Americans' would approve waterboarding

MSNBC host Joe Scarborough says that the controversial interrogation tactic known as waterboarding -- a method of simulated drowning used by interrogators to extract information from subjects -- is an effective practice that most Americans would overwhelmingly approve of if asked.

In a discussion about US Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey's refusal to rule out waterboarding as a method of gathering intelligence during confirmation hearings this week, Scarborough said the technique had achieved proven results.

"For those who don't know, waterboarding is what we did to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is the Al Qaeda number two guy that planned 9/11. And he talked," said Scarborough. "A lot of people say torture doesn't work, torture doesn't work. And I'm not here saying that we need to torture. I'm just saying, for the record it is a matter of historical record, that when we water boarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he started talking, and he kept talking."

"If you ask Americans whether they think it's okay for us to waterboard in a controlled environment," the host said later, "the New York Times editorial board will not like the results of those polls because 90% of Americans will say 'yes.'"

Asked later if he thought waterboarding qualified as torture, Scarborough wasn't so sure.

Scarborough said that even though McCain was a staunch opponent of torture, he pointed out that that torture had in fact "worked" on the senator.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:54 AM
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1. We knew the Penatagon has a propoganda department created by Rummy.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 08:06 AM by sparosnare
I often wondered exactly how it would manifest itself; what sort of crap they'd try to pull. This is an example. Wouldn't surprise me if Scarborough were a paid lackey for the Pentagon.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:01 AM
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3. They also pulled this crap with Armstrong Williams and NCLB? n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:56 AM
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2. I'd like to see Rachel waterboard Joe
although one she's on the set, Joe Scum's tortured mind is already exploding.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:01 AM
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4. The conclusion to be drawn is obvious
Get too close to the Republican party or the Pentagon, and your mental processes get fucked up. Perhaps it's time to have the GOP and the American military declared international terrorist organizations?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:16 AM
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5. I thought they already were?
I gave up LONG ago trying to consider the GOP or the Military Industrial Complex anything BUT terrorist organizations. The devastation both groups have done, both inside and outside the US, is breathtaking. :grr:
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:28 AM
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6. If Scarborough think forcing Mc Cain to make false confessions to war crimes means it "worked."
Then I guess it did. It'll work for Bush too. Because the truth always has been counter productive to the administrations goals.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:09 AM
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7. If that is what he is saying someone needs to ask him to clarify his comments
Perhaps he knows something we don't know?

Don
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