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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:33 AM Original message |
Can someone explain why it is believed the U.S. isn't dense enough for trains? |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. Because car manufactors and oil companies want more business. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The highway-construction lobby has WAY too much influence |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. and by extension, |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Bingo. (NT) |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Bingo! Trains don't use enough oil! |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. The problem is that the mindset is too dense. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. We got one in New Mexico |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Negative perception of train service, dating back to the 1960's |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Have you ridden lately? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. I'm not putting down train service now |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Is Danville, IL far from you? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Little over an hour - Crawfordsville is the same thing |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well as an Amtrak employee let me tell you by linking to another post |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. They have any Summer deals coming up? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. We have a nice program for Vets (that's year round.) if you are. |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Cool. Thanks for the info, YOY. Much appreciated! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. The dining car food on Amtrak is EXCELLENT. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yeah but for some reason Anthony Bordain hates us... |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Probably because you banned smoking on your trains |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The thing is I think that I've sat across from him once in an Acela (from NY to DC) |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. From what I've seen of his show, he always looks pissed |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Considering it's train food I was very impressed and ate every bite on |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I have thought about taking the train to Milwaukee for my annual |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Shame about that. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. because they would steal revenues from the oil industry....we can't have that |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. This country is too dense for any kind of sensible solutions |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I was gonna say.... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. The states with higher density population in the U.S. do tend to be the ones with train service. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. They've Added Trains Between DC and NYC |
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DamnYank (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. France vs US |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. Nope... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. Judging by the last several years, nobody's denser than Americans. nt |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. No, WE'RE too dense for trains. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'll take a train over a plane or a car ANY DAY ... and for me, its faster, too. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
29. Because a lot of it isn't dense enough? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Here is Europe at night |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Energy costs in Europe are a lot higher than in the US |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I've long considered doing a classic cross-country drive across the US |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I remember back in the days of the double nickle |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. There was a conscious decision made in the '50s |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
33. Rail is expanding up here in Maine. |
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cayuga (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
34. It takes me three days |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
36. U.S. Railroads are undergoing a big expansion now, says the Post |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Norfolk Southern didn't exist 30 years ago.. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Amtrak's website should be youcantgettherefromhere.com |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. Only slightly off-topic, but there was once a trolly service that ran |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
47. Amtrak is way too freaking expensive for what it provides. |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
48. Nothing to do with density, IMHO |
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