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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:53 AM
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Is mcSame a sacrificial lamb?
The Republicans must realize that they're not going to win anything this year. mcSame is an old, washed-up buffoon with a number of screws loose. Did they give him the nod to avoid "using up" one of their other stout yeomen on a lost cause?
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GrapesOfWrath Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 AM
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1. Good Point
Afterall, they still have Jebbie waiting in the wings :puke:
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 AM
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2. that has long been my take on the situation
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 AM
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3. yet he polls even with our canidates,,,and even is close enough to steal
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:02 AM
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4. You don't believe those bogus polls
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 AM by malaise
do you? McSameasBush can't even beat the Democratic donkey. :D
edit D
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 AM
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5. I think a lot of those polls are nonsense..
we've still got two candidates running, the repubs only have one.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:04 AM
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6. Of course, he's the "maverick".
Once he loses they can say he wasn't a "real conservative" and that's why he lost. It wasn't the dismal failure of the "real conservatives" in power for the last 7 years that cost him the election. It was his "maverick" un-conservative attitude that cost him the election.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:10 AM
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7. Not defending GOP, but do not underestimate McCain or we
do so at our peril.

We must keep in mind, rank and file voters are not and do not
think as Activists.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:15 AM
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8. I hope so.... nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:23 AM
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9. No and we would be silly to consider that the public at large perceivces him as you do
He actually is the strongest candidate they have. He has been THE media favorite for decades. His war story was made into a movie that was repeated on tv more than once. (hypocritical given his criticism of Kerry - though had "Going Up River" it might have countered a lot of the SBVT's REAL problem by putting Kerry's antiwar actions into context.) The advantage of that is that now in commercials, he puts in a little snippet on Vietnam and it brings back the made for tv movie.

Also, he CAN come across as sincere, respectful and serious - when he controls his temper. It may not be complete truth, but it can sound like it. Other than a joint appearance with Kerry on Iraq in September 2007, he has usually come out well in head to head talk show appearances.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 AM
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10. I see your point, but...
I simply cannot accept that this man is a "strong" candidate.

Of course, I also "knew" bush would lose to Gore in 2000. Oh that's right, he did.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:45 AM
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11. Yes, he's like Bob Dole in 1996
Bill Clinton was too popular to beat, so instead of "wasting" a Bush on that election, the GOP ran Dole...

This pattern says it all:
1976—Ford/Dole
1980—Reagan/Bush
1984—Reagan/Bush
1988—Bush/Quayle
1992—Bush/Quayle
1996—Dole/Kemp
2000—Bush/Cheney
2004—Bush/Cheney

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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:50 AM
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12. No. He is merely a place holder. When he drops out just before
the rethug convention, a "white knight" in the person of Newt Gingrich, will appear and be nominated by acclamation at their convention.

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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:08 AM
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13. "Assume" much?
Repubs have not yet begun to fight. They won't just give up an eight-year slot in the white house. They can win.

We can't just sit back and assume the victory.

We certainly have some advantages, with Repubs not able to work to a budget, won't address health care, can't educate kids. They've screwed up the basics big-time. But they're not dead.

"Stout yeomen"? They have stout yeomen? They got McCain. And Gingrich.
:rofl:

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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:26 AM
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14. Repubs don't want to win...
the White House in 2008.

As long as we're speculating, why not?

Whoever ends up with this giant bag of shit - and tries to do something about it - will have to make some tough choices for the US. Foreign and domestic choices.

The Repubs like to throw brickbats, and right now they themselves are the only logical targets.

With a Dem in the White House, the Repubs can scream about how the Murikan people are getting screwed, how the Dems "lost" Iraq, how the terra-ists are coming to kill Murikan women and rape Murikan cattle..... etc.... The opportunities for bloviation will be countless.

Who does Rush want for President? My guess would be that he wants the Dem that would be the easiest target for after the election.

Obama the Muslim. Hilary the shrew. Whichever, Rush wins... along with the Repubs. Obama or Clinton will be writing the script for Rush's program every day. That fat fuck will be able to phone it in!

All this, when the new president is gonna need all the resources, all the intelligence, and all the luck in the world to bring the US... and maybe the world... out of the mess that it is after Dumbya.

Shit!
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:23 AM
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15. No
Clearly some people in the republican party decided not to run because they felt it was a tough year to win as a republican. However McCain feels he can win. He has a plan to win the election and the party has clearly circled around him.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:37 PM
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20. Agree! Underestimation around this place is crazy.. just wait for the GE.. LOL..
We will all be shocked and amazed how the MSM will turn on Obama.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:26 AM
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16. He is a foil who will be replaced at their convention. Watch for John Roberts or Condi. n/t
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:48 AM
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17. At least that would get Roberts off the Court.
And he'd never win a general election. Frankly, I can't see him giving up his CJ seat to lose in the general.

Bake
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:32 PM
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19. He doesn't have to giveup his seat unless he wins the GE. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:08 AM
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18. Yes, he is Bob Dole circa 96
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:40 PM
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21. Don't care
as long as he loses, I don't give a crap if he's been sacrificed. Could hardly happen to a more deserving piece of shit.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:46 PM
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22. i think so....he also keeps the hard-ass bu$h* image up.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 03:47 PM by spanone
the republicans will be glad to turn this economy and war over to the democrats

they have fucked it up to the nth degree
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