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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:19 PM
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The latest fast boat "incident" in the Strait: MSN says : "Iranians," Navy says "No."

Raw Story reported yesterday on the "incident" of the Navy's 'Blackwater USA' of the high sea's cargo ship firing on boats approaching it the Persian Gulf, which led to a $119 barrel of oil:

"More than one Iranian 'fast boats ... were approaching this vessel at a high rate of speed,' in the Persian Gulf, MSNBC's Pentagon correspondent said. US military personnel on board fired eight .50-caliber rounds and three warning shots from M-16s when the boats got within 100 yards of the cargo ship. After the shots were fired, the ships veered off, according to MSNBC.

Miklaszewski said the military believes the Iranians were mostly trying to harass the ship and perhaps see how close they could get before being fired upon."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/UScontracted_ship_fires_on_Iranian_boat_0425.htmleve

Those damn Eye-ranians, they're really asking for it! It WAS the Iranians right? No?

A report by Reuters today says:

"U.S. defense officials, speaking only on condition of anonymity, first said they suspected the boats were Iranian.

But a Fifth Fleet spokeswoman quickly backed away from that charge.

'We cannot speculate on who they are. We just don't know. We have no proof of who they were,' said Lt. Stephanie Murdoch, another spokeswoman for the Fifth Fleet.

In Tehran, an Iranian navy source denied that any confrontation had occurred with a U.S. ship in the Gulf. But the source, quoted by a journalist for Iran's state-owned Arabic Al-Alam TV channel, said any shooting that may have occurred could have targeted a non-Iranian vessel."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/usa_iran_navy_dc

And, that may certainly be true. If we will all recall, another Navy contractor ship also fired "warning shots" at fast boats approaching them in the Suez Canal back on March 25. In that incident these "warning shots" killed one man on the boat and wounded two others, according to the Egyptian government. In that case, the offending boat was manned by Egyptians, couldn't pin it on the Iranians that time (damn it!).

Reuters reports that in the Suez: "Small boats selling cigarettes and other products often swarm the civilian ships moving through the canal. These waterborne merchants know not to approach military vessels but the 'Global Patriot' looked like a civilian, said the official, speaking on customary condition of anonymity."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/25/world/main3965227.shtml?source=RSSattr=World_3965227

And the Iranians aren't the only ones that use the Strait of Hormuz, but we've got a war to start, so . . .

The fact that the Fifth Fleet is saying they don't know who was on these boats hasn't stopped the belligerent talk coming from the administration and now the JCS.

Reuters:

"The latest incident came as America's top military officer charged Iran with increasing support for Iraqi militias and warned that the United States had military options to force Tehran to stop.

"When I say I don't want to take any military options off the table, that certainly more than implies that we have military options,' said Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff. 'That kind of planning activity has been going on for a long time. I think it will go on for some time into the future,' he told reporters."

Looks like they have all their ducks in a row at the Pentagon now that Admiral Fallon has been made an example of. Fallon and Petreaus didn't see eye to eye on the whole global aspect of the situation. Fallon was looking toward the problem of AQ in Pakistan etc. Petreaus sees everything within the prism of Iraq and the Iranian threat, just like W.! Fallon is out and Petreaus is taking over his job very soon. You do the math.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:20 PM
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1. I was just about to post this. Here we go again.....
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:22 PM
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2. "Pentagon suspected that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard was also involved. "
But the Fifth Fleet just told Reuters they didn't know who it was.

Funny, huh?

Someone better set that person straight about the strait.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:24 PM
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3. the headline was iranian boats...no one sees the...'we thought they were iranians'
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:28 PM
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4. They got the price of oil up...
Mission Accomplished.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:29 PM
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5. These little cat and mouse games they keep playing
are going to blow up in someones face.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:31 PM
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6. That's what they want, of course. 'We have no choice,' etc.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:40 PM
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7. There was a report that a ship owned by Totem Ocean Trailer Express Inc.
carrying "military supplies" to Kuwait opened fire on a couple of boats too, maybe they are US "Republican guards"--some real criminal Republicans have traveled courtesy of Totem Ocean Trailer Express Inc.

"Totem Ocean Trailer Express Inc. Congressional Travel page (from Legistorm.com)
http://www.legistorm.com/trip/sponsor/8777/Totem_Ocean_Trailer_Express_Inc_.html

I can't help but wonder if some of the crew of the Totem Ocean Trailer Express Inc.'s ship know Alaska businessman Ken Privratsky (former US Army General in charge of all the Pentagon's logistics)???
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:47 PM
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8. here's the story in the british Guardian.....iranian boats....from navy spokesperson
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 04:48 PM by spanone
A ship contracted by the US military fired warning shots towards two Iranian boats, American defence officials said today.

The Westward Venture, a cargo vessel chartered by the US department of defence, was travelling north in international waters in the central Gulf at around 8am local time yesterday when the incident took place, the US navy said.

"They were able to avoid a serious incident by following the procedures that we use," said Commander Lydia Robertson, a spokeswoman for the US navy's Bahrain-based fifth fleet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/25/usa.iran


they need to get their lies straight
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:52 PM
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10. That's the ship owned by Totem Ocean Trailer Express Inc alright-something's "fishy" indeed spanone
eom
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:53 PM
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11. Someone is lying here.
"We cannot speculate on who they are. We just don't k.now. We have no proof of who they were," said Lt. Stephanie Murdoch, another spokeswoman for the Fifth Fleet.

I think that was closer to the truth. Think how many ships and boats are cruising through the strait at any given time. It's just more convienent to blame the Iranians.

Remember the Iranian "threats" over the radio in the last incident back in December that turned out to be a prank by the "Filipino Monkey"? But, that didn't ome out until W. & Co. had used the non-incident to scare the bajeezas out of our good friends in the Gulf during W.'s visit.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:59 PM
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12. Ted Stevens might have been the go between, perhaps? He took a few trips
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:25 PM
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13. Anything is possible, false flags, provocateurs, US "Republican guards"-
and when it comes to determining the facts (if any) remember the Office of Strategic Influence never really closed, bushmeister0.

Office of Strategic Influence page from Source Watch
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Office_of_Strategic_Influence
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:51 PM
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9. Did the I-ranians "jump the shark" too????
:evilgrin:
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