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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:12 PM
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Man goes off on Pickles, THEN attacks disabled Bush fan
Must be one of those latte-drinking, Volvo driving, brie-eating, wild-eyed Liberals I've heard so much about :eyes:

BUSH BASHER SMASHES DISABLED TEEN: COPS

A man heckling First Lady Laura Bush and daughter Jenna outside the 92nd Street Y was arrested after he punched a wheelchair-bound girl whose parents had told him to shut up, authorities said yesterday. German Talis, 22, was shouting obscenities at the Bushes, who were leaving the building Tuesday, when he crossed paths with Wendy and John Lovetro and their daughter Maureen, 18, who has cerebral palsy.

They had been in the audience to hear the Bushes talk about their children's book, "Read All About It."

"He began yelling about Iraq and Iran at Jenna Bush. She was waving at the crowd. I told the guy, 'What are you doing? Shut up. This is about a child and books,' " said John Lovetro. "He was unperturbed. I said, 'Get out of here! You're being a moron!' "

The next thing he knew, Talis was allegedly punching Maureen - a fan of the first lady since meeting her in 2004.

"I heard my daughter hysterical yelling, 'He's hitting me!' " said Wendy Lovetro.

"He punched her on the shoulder blades, but that wasn't enough," she said.

"My husband pushed the wheelchair away from him and he reached beyond my husband and began pounding my daughter in the thigh."

The two men fought as the president's family drove off. Cops broke them up and busted Talis on charges of assault and resisting arrest.

Maureen was not seriously injured.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04242008/news/regionalnews/bush_basher_smashes_disabled_teen__cops_107864.htm

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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:15 PM
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1. And it is my sincere hope...
that the Lovetros OWN Talis after this... :mad:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:16 PM
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2. Sounds to me like someone hasn't been taking his meds like he's supposed to.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:17 PM
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22. exactly
pretty obvious, huh?
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:17 PM
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3. Bill O is going to have fun with this.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:17 PM
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4. Sounds like one of Rush's Hutu-wannabes. n/t
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:19 PM
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5. What a total fucking douchebag. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:03 PM
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11. See post #10 video link.
There's more to this than the MF'n Post article.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:19 PM
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6. i just looked him up under "Gary Talis" and there are many, many articles about him naturally
but also an interview with all around tin foil hatter Alex Jones. I didn't watch the interview but just from the blurbs on google he claims he was "Set Up". I hope he was because really that's a shit thing to do.
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Laurier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:25 PM
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7. German Talis is a 9/11 conspiracy nutter.
He is not in any way, shape or form representative of the Democratic party.

He's just a run of the mill conspiracy nutcase.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:15 PM
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15. But believe that O'Leilly and the lot will portray him as a
mainstream left liberal....they jump on this kind of crap like maggots to corpses.
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Laurier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:42 PM
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20. Agreed.
That's why it is even more important to draw the distinction. This idiot was not there as a Democrat opposing Bush, or opposing republicans. He was there - at a children's book event - to garner attention to himself and his lunatic conspiracy theories about the events of 9/11. He does not in any way, shape or form represent Democrats or the Democratic party.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:44 PM
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30. that's why I added my "wild-eyed liberal" comment
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:13 AM
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25. Who has constitutional rights. n/t
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:32 PM
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8. Off with his head! n/t
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:33 PM
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9. I'm not Buying it......
He Punched a girl in a wheel chair?

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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:09 PM
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12. Yeah, this is one of those stories that just doesn't smell right.
I wish I could find another source besides Alex Jones, but according to his site, an eyewitness emailed this account:

"Gary was exercising his free speech rights, talking to the crowd. The mood of the crowd was hostile toward Gary. Among the waiting crowd was a man in a blue jacket and a woman, obviously his wife, and their teenage daughters, one of whom was in a wheelchair. The man in the blue jacket was taking particular offense at what Gary was saying. He even made threatening gestures at Gary. At one point he cocked his fist at Gary, with an odd little half smile on his face, like he wanted trouble. Gary and the man had words. I was very surprised to see this man make threatening gestures at Gary while his family, including his daughter in the wheelchair, were right there...

The man in the blue jacket was pushing his daughter’s wheelchair. Instead of going straight up the street, he veered over to the side of the building to where Gary was. Next thing I know, he caught Gary in a corner of the building and was whaling on him, saying that Gary had touched his daughter. I know Gary, and he would never do something like that. Gary’s instinct is to protect women and children...

He had Gary in the corner, and was punching him and punching him. If Gary managed to defend himself I did not see it. The man’s wife was pleading with him to stop. The daughter in the wheelchair was in tears...

From what I observed, the man who assaulted Gary was looking for a fight, and he actually exploited his physically challenged daughter, steering her wheelchair toward Gary, in order to fabricate an excuse to physically vent his anger."

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:38 PM
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10. He is a 9/11 truther and supposedly these are trumped up charges. Video
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:13 PM
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14. That is totally fucked up right there.
There's no definitive proof, but from what I saw it certainly looks like a setup.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:20 AM
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26. It certainly looked like a set-up to me too.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:31 PM
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18. Whoa
That is messed up.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:13 PM
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13. Now let me see if I have this straight.
The "Bush-Basher" we're supposed to believe was literally punching a wheelchair-bound girl while she sat helpless, but she "was not seriously injured"?

Sounds like bullshit to me.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:18 PM
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16. From the headline, I expected to read about someone who had gotten
hold of some bad kosher dills!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:22 PM
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17. Looks like a set up
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 09:25 PM by proud2Blib
Those bastards.
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Laurier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:40 PM
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19. I doubt that.
This guy is just another lunatic 9/11 conspiracy nutter who went too far.

He wasn't there as a Democrat opposing Bush or Republicans. He was there solely as a member of a nutcase conspiracy group to disrupt a children's event in order to draw attention to himself and to his nutcase conspiracy theories about 9/11.



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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:55 PM
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21. It doesn't matter why he was there,
it starting to sound like he was set up. You may not like the 9/11 Truther message but they have a right to free speech.

He said in an interview that he is trying to get a lawyer to subpoena the surveillance video. Maybe the truth on this will come out in a few days.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:57 AM
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27. Did you watch the video?
The 9/11 guy is being falsely accused.
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:49 AM
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23. Ugh, Alex Jones
It IS hard to believe someone would be throwing punches - repeatedly, at a wheel-chair bound girl. Hard to believe that if there was a group there, they didn't tackle him and beat him to a bloody pulp. I know I would have slugged a guy I saw hitting a girl in a wheel chair, cops or no cops.

Yes it's fishy, but the Alex Jones followers have their own agenda, so it's hard for me to say.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:59 AM
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28. Did you watch the video?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:51 AM
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24. This is one of those stories that is going to turn out to be something else.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:02 AM
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29. The guy is guilty of being rude
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_Nk7E8_p-g

but the assault charge is questionable.
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