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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:12 PM
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Dear (Formerly-Enthusiastic) Bush Supporters:
Dear Former Bush Supporters:

Please forgive me for not having written in a while, but with all of the brouhaha surrounding the primaries, I’m afraid I have been remiss in keeping in touch with my friends on the other side of the aisle.

I know that you and I have had our differences over the past seven-plus years, but that’s all blood under the bridge now, so I just wanted to drop a line and catch up on things.

So ... here we all are, as a citizenry, a nation, a people. Whadda ya think?

The economy is tanking, and people are losing their homes, their health insurance, their jobs – you know, the jobs that you insisted would be plentiful once Georgie got going, the old ones that have disappeared and the new ones that never materialized.

The price of filling-up at the pump has skyrocketed, along with the cost of food, heating your home, sending your kids to college, and just about everything else.

Hey, remember when we all used to talk about giving our kids a better life than we had? Those were the days, huh? That was before your fiscally-responsible Republican president plunged the country into a debt that not only our kids, but our great-grandkids will be saddled with for decades. At this rate, they won’t even be able to afford a one-way ticket to India or China in order to find what used to be a good ol’ American job.

One thing I can’t argue with is your assertions about the phony War on Terror – I admit it; you were right all along. Georgie’s policies have been wildly successful in encouraging more anti-American sentiment than even I could have imagined, not to mention the upsurge in recruitment to “organizations” like Al Qadea. I don’t know how I could have missed his obvious efforts to ensure we won’t be running out of terrorists any time soon.

I must say I am surprised that after your initial rallying around the War in Iraq, so many of you are now singing a completely different tune. Makes me harken back to the days when I was a traitor because I said it would all end badly, and you were the patriot because you knew victory was just around that next corner. Last poll I checked, the majority of Americans think Iraq is a disaster and want out NOW. Have you changed your mind – or are you just lying to the pollsters as a goof? If those WMDs hadn’t been found, this whole misadventure would have been a total disaster, wouldn’t you say?

I know I’m waxing nostalgic here, but remember when you were telling me how great things were going to be under the fine Christian leadership of W? Good God, that’s one we can all chuckle about now. Man o man, who knew he’d turn out to be such a lying, warmongering, murdering torturer! So funny how things come out in the end, huh?

But ya gotta give right when it comes to the bucks. Sure there’s the billions spent in Iraq, and the billions gone missin’ on W’s watch, the millions wasted on the embassy in Baghdad, yadda yadda. But the CEOs of our fine American corporations are earning up to ten times what they were before this administration got into office, so it’s not all bad news. Some people are doing great, no doubt about it. It’s just too bad you aren’t one of them.

But all in all, I’m sure you don’t regret your enthusiasm for lil’ George. Yeah, yeah, so he didn’t bring dignity back to Washington, his buffoonery is legendary in a world that no longer respects our country, his ignorance is only matched by his inability to speak coherently, our country is locked in a quagmire in Iraq that has led to increased volatility in the ME, we have thousands of dead troops and over a million Iraqi casualties, our military is broken, our country is flat broke and more polluted than ever, our manufacturing sector is all but gone, and we are inundated with products from other countries that are cheap due to slave labour and child labour – and the fact that those products are poisoning our kids and killing our pets is of no concern to the administration that promised to Keep America Safe.

So, like I said, I just wanted to check in with all of you, and ask the big question with respect to that Bush guy who you loved so much, you voted for him not once, but twice: How’s that working out for you?

Just wonderin’ …
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:16 PM
Response to Original message
1. Now that you have their attention, can I just add a comment?
Suck on it, ya dimwitted traitors.

Thanks, Nance.

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Pluvious Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
64. But there are still many that will never see reality... for example:
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:54 PM by Pluvious
A couple times a year I must suffer interactive exposure to my in-laws.

When you enter their house, first thing you see is the treasured,
framed, autographed stock photo of Shrub and Pickles beaming at you.

During the after-dinner discussion, I took shelter in another room,
because I knew The Dialog was coming. I tried to tune out the snatches
of the words that I could pick up. The rationalizing of torture, the
Liberal Myth absurdity of global warming, and the need to support
the War on Terrah in Iraq.

But, my breaking point came, when the Favorite Son, a Sr. at USC,
uttered this astounding gem of insight and clarification:

"Of COURSE the war in Iraq wasn't about oil, just look at the
price of gas today - there's the obvious PROOF!!!"

To the fading mummer of proud parental approval noises, I made a hasty
exit from the house for a long walk.

And blissful silence.

I does boggle the mind.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #64
85. Good god, you're brave...
Mine decided shunning (guess they get confused between being LCMS and being part of the JW cult) was their best chance to remain "pure" Republicans. They don't want to be "enmeshed" and claim I've been mesmerized. I sometimes think I miss them, though it's clear they don't miss their children and/or grandchildren at all. Their loss.

My brother, AT&T, and Jesus constitute their ricebowl, god bless 'em; I sure hope Bro will forever be able to keep her and Dad in their perpetual Holier-Than-Thou state. (BTW, Daddy was OBT Central Office Repair and stopped using the phone 20 years ago...even though he got the LD for free as a retirement perk -- what does that say?) Our "keeping in touch" was always a joke even then, everything was always "fine, nothing new, bye."

You know, when * said he talked to God, I'll bet he really means he had a conference call with my parental units. They're motto has always been "Showing charity is asking for trouble." God, I'm glad that Genetic Non-discrimination Bill passed!!!!



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Pluvious Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #85
108. Thanks for sharing
It helps a little to know I'm not alone

It's just so hard to fathom their cognitive dissonance

All we can do in the end, is always keep our minds open,
and never become that which we so loathe...

Peace
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #64
86. My in-laws are church of christ nut fucks
They told my kids, point blank that they were going to burn in hell forever and ever. My husband says, "Why can't you just sweep it under the rug like the rest of us?" and get over it. Because it is profoundly upsetting for anyone to tell a kid they will only go to heaven if they go to their church. not just the religion, the exact building. Their preacher has convinced them that their actual congregation, are the only ones not burning in hell forever and ever.
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Pluvious Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #86
107. wow - that is so sad... and...
and from what I remember of the Bible, Jesus NEVER would have been down with that at all

BTW - I just read this piece in RS, just plain creepy !!!

(ALL religious zealots scare me)
-
"Jesus Made Me Puke"
Matt Taibbi Undercover with the Christian Right
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20278737/jesus_made_me_puke/print

---
"If you believe Jesus ever had a good word for war, or torture, or tax cuts for the rich,
or raping the earth, or refusing water to dying migrants, then you might as well believe
bunnies lay painted eggs."
-Bill Maher, April 2006
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #64
109. My reply would have been the war in Iraq is all about controlling the price of oil.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:18 PM
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2. Excellent post! I was just going to add to all Bush supporters, we told ya so.
We told everyone who'd listen that W was bad news. But the arrogant righties hitched their wagon to someone who'll go down in history as one of the worse Presidents to ever hold the office.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #2
42. "One" of the worst? I cannot fathom anyone else even coming
close to having that revered title. Buchanan, A. Johnson, Harding, Coolidge must be sighing in relief...they will seem like great sages after what bush has done to this nation, and the world.

McCain might actually beat him, if he were electable, but I cannot, for the life of me, contemplate anyone worse than this POS. Genghis bush?
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #42
94. Coolidge was actually quite capable . . .
Just antisocial. Harding, who knows? He dropped dead before things went too sour. A. Johnson waaaaaay out of his depth. Buchanan just fucking hopeless. I do really think Buchanan and Bush are neck-and-neck for Worst Ever.

If the world economy tanks à la 1929, *then* Georgie will win in a walk.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #94
100. The policies of Harding and Coolidge set the stage for the
Great Depression, Hoover did little to alleviate the situation, but he did care, to a certain extent. Sending MacArthur into DC w/troops to disband the Bonus Marchers was a horror though.

Reagan set the stage for the current terrorist attacks, when after all of his tough talk, balked and ran from Beirut after the USMC barracks fiasco. Once the radicals realized he was all bluster, the planning began. They figured the resolve wasn't there for either the US or Europe to follow through on threats. bush I didn't help at all, but he wasn't the major cause of some of today's problems. bush II however is irrefutably responsible for the current disaster.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:23 PM
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3. "How’s that working out for you?"
I love it. It is almost a Dr. Phil "come to Jesus" speech. As a matter of fact, when someone tells Dr. Phil how they've been trying to fix their problem, and it is apparent they aren't, he asks them, "And how's that working for you?" in his most sarcastic tone.

BTW, I haven't watched Dr. Phil since he left Oprah. Heck, I haven't watched Oprah in years. Just sayin'.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:29 PM
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4. Spot on!
Thanks again! :thumbsup:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:29 PM
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5. Great one.
I just love it when you write something that everyone here can agree on.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Thanks, cbayer ...
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 10:59 PM by NanceGreggs
Unlike too many here, I don't doubt for a moment that there is an abundance of things we all agree on, and will demonstrate that common agreement when it counts.

The GOP is taking comfort in our current bickering - simply because they don't have the intelligence to know that when it comes to fighting their policies, Hillary and Obama supporters alike are, despite their present differences, UNITED in that common cause.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #5
15. It's rare as hen's teeth that everyone here agrees on much anymore.
But George Walker Bush, finally and filtered through this little gem of disdain, proves himself a Uniter after all.

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. JeffR
I've been saying that one ruefully for many years now. ChimpyMcDumbfuck really is a uniter. Who wouldda thunk it, eh?
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #18
57. If only Congress had been able to unite and start impeachment
proceedings.:-(

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #57
96. I don't think the issue is inability to unite
I think we are seeing that the two arms of the corporate party are working quite well with one another. I hate to sound cynical but I have come to believe that the Dems are complicit in this little dance.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. I wish I could disagree with that
but I agree.

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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #57
105. I think they were able, just UNWILLING. Big difference, and I won't forgive it. nt
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:56 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. Rare as hen's teeth. I wonder where that came from?
Funny phrase that.

You are right. The great decider will, in the end, bring us together.

Is that Joni Mitchell?
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #20
59. Not sure of the origin of that phrase
but I've always liked it.

Yes, that is Joni.:)

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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:32 PM
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6. I have a cousin.....
a real douche bag of a dyed-in-the-wool bush supporter. He told me that "deep in my heart" I know that Georgie will go down in History as one of the Greatest Presidents ever. He also told me that the "blacks", he uses a word that rhymes with "biggers", were stealing the government blind after Katrina, where in Colorado folks buried in a snowstorm didn't need one bit of assistance from the Feds! He is a real piece of work, let me tell ya. So in keeping with the spirit of your letter, I think I will copy and paste this baby into a little email and send it over to the dark side for you! Thanks, Nance...no one says it better than you do!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #6
58. My mother sent me a mean spirited email about the blacks in NO bilking the government
while somewhere in ND people were under six feet of snow & didn't ask for assistance at all. I asked her what she would choose if she had to, six feet of snow outside her house or six feet of water inside her house.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #58
72. Hey thanks for the reply....
funny how they get all the talking points...I'll bet the story from ND was the one "dougie" was relating, I even looked it up, but couldn't remember last night. They have not replied yet, they sort of gave up forwarding me the "talking point" memos they send to each other. I will relate how they took it...if they dare!
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #6
75. direct your cousin to Snopes.com to show him the lie about the
colorado snow storm not needing/getting any federal help. That is an email hoax that is well documented there....plus I live in colorado and KNOW there was fed help involved.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #75
90. I exchange e-mail jokes and such
I exchange e-mail jokes and such with some clearly right leaning relatives. The "The ni**gers deserved their Katrina problems. + All they did was loot and steal," e-mail was rampant. Obviously these, supposedly, "jokes" and misleading e-mails were being generated to sway public opinion favorably to the horrible Katrina response by the Bush Administration. Much of the e-mail I received at the time were about resourceful white people in dire straights that somehow overcame terrible odds yet survived some imaginary ordeal because they were not lazy and or criminal ni**gers. I suspect that we tax payers actually paid to have these garbage pieces of e-mail generated.

This country is so fucked.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #90
111. critical thinking...
was never one of Doug's strong points....guess he swallows anything they toss his way. HEY! thanks for the post and welcome to DU! Where have you been all this time?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. Thanks, Sky. Love your Coexist! nt
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #75
110. Hey thanks for the reply...
i guess my memory was better than I thought. I am still waiting for his reply to Nances letter! Let ya all know if and when he does.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:41 PM
Response to Original message
7. Yet we're worried
if we can win the GE against the Republicans. Unbelievable.

Great post. :)
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
91. "Yet we're worried if we can win the GE against the Republicans."
And rightly so. We are going to lose, bet on it. The American people are so easily manipulated. I can see this happening right before my eyes. Reverend Wright's words might as well have been Obama's own, to hear the media tell it. Hillary, as a representative of the Democratic Party, would be crushed in the GE.

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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:44 PM
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8. Excellent as usual! K & R. n/t
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:51 PM
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9. My dear Nance!
You say it with style!

You say it with grace!

And that smirk!:rofl:

You go, girl!

K&R, of course...

:patriot:


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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. We're all just waiting for the day ...
... that smirk is wiped off the face of the GOP come November. It'll be a grand day for Democrats, and an even grander day for the country.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. I want to see the smirk wiped off...
... by the iron clank of leg irons being locked around his ankles by a very burly US Marshall.

What can I say? I'm optimistic!
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #16
67. I'm not optimistic
but everyone should have a dream, and watching der Chimpenfeurer being marched in chains into the Hague ranks as one of my favorites. Sadly it will only happen in my dreams.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #13
93. Don't be so provincial Nance,
it will be an even grander day for the rest of the world. :spank::toast: Kudos as usual!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:53 PM
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10. Brava!
:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Destined to become (another) classic! Thank you! :headbang:
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:54 PM
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11. Thanks, Nance. Very potent!
Please promise that you'll only use your powers for good.

K&R
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:01 AM
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14. I Loved It
Sometimes during this primary season there hasn't been a lot to smile about but we can always count on you to nudge us back to the reason why we all got involved in the first place.:thumbsup:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:25 AM
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17. Thank you Nance.....
you are so wonderful and I admire your work so much.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:43 AM
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19. BUT: We're Not Bitter, No Sir!
:rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:07 AM
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21. K&R. (nt)
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:15 AM
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22. Even if I were a better wordsmith, I couldn't have said it better.
Bravo! :applause:


Say everyone? Are those crickets I hear coming from the other side?
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:43 AM
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23. Those who voted for * really do deserve to have their noses rubbed in it.
There is no excuse for that kind of stupidity.

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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:32 AM
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24. I'm a registered Republican
I disagree with Bush on:

-spending hundreds of billions of dollars to build up Iraqi infrastructure when were probably going to have to blow it up again in the future (they're muslim what do you expect). After 'mission accomplished' we should have left their country in ruins.

-free trade. (Ross Perot was right.)

-illegal immigration.

-cutting taxes while not challenging spending (greatly increasing national debt)

These aren't minor things like, "Oh Joe Blow liberal Democrat tried to put gun locks in town X, or Joe Blow liberal Democrat talks about the woman's right to chose." These are big issues: trade, immigration, national debt, a global war. And since McCain is exactly like Bush (trade, immigration, national debt, a global war) I will not vote for him. McCain will lead the GOP to defeat (Democratic victory) the way Bush has lead the GOP to defeat (Democratic victory).

But I don't suffer from Bushphobia.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:24 AM
Response to Reply #24
26. ..."we should have left their country in ruins"...

It's a shame that the human race produces so many people like you. It really is. If there was some way to just get rid of you all without the process escalating into an abysmal inescapable death spiral the rest of of us could get so much useful stuff done.

But, here you are.

I suppose we at least have the opportunity to educate you somewhat, but I hold little hope even for that.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:29 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. "they're muslims, what do you expect"
:wtf:

are you a massive bigot or just an idiot?
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. Well both, of course.

I feel guilty for feeding him, but I suppose it's at least useful to have these people post sometimes to remind us that they're real and not the product of some deranged satirist.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #28
49. ahh, poke him with a stick
why not?

:shrug:

interesting he's not eating the Granite Cookie yet tho......
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:35 AM
Response to Reply #24
33. Welcome To DU, .... As A Republican,
.

Which Republican principles do you believe shrub and his policies best represents? As a Republican do you think shrub will be best remembered for:

smaller government,

balanced budgets,

supporting the rights of the people against government intrusion,

protecting the Bill Of Rights?

As a republican will you support the efforts to bring USA back to the rule of law?

As a republican do you support the investigations of the willful wrong doing of shrub's administration?

.
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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:11 AM
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39. Bush is a lame duck
McCain is very much like Bush and McCain needs to be defeated. I am just here as a Republican to support any efforts to defeat McCain, and defeat free trade in general.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:55 AM
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43. 'Free Trade.' As defined by Republic Party ...
.

Socializing the risk, privatizing the profit: and people be damned. Not thank you.

Let us get back to original topic. Was your support for shrub a good thing or something you regret?

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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:04 AM
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44. I think I voted for him once
In 2000, straight Republican ticket. I missed the 2004 vote. Most Republican voters are ambivalent towards Bush, they don't "Love Bush."

You can't tell me Al Gore (the free trade propaganda wing of the Democratic Party) was any better then Bush in 2000, before 9-11.

Here is the Gore vs Perot 1993 NAFTA debate to put 2000 into context:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhwhMXOxHTg
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #44
51. Gore is a policy driven government wonk who has been a strong environmentalist for DECADES.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 10:01 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
He would have been better in that he would have continued to vigorously support and listen to the findings of the National Anti Terrorist task force and for damn sure wouldn't have ignored a PDF titled "Bin Laden determined to strike in the United States" , he would have insured that the US sign on to the Kyoto treaty and begun working on alternative fuels and other methods to wean this country off petroleum.

See, he's not a (failed) Texan oilman connected to closely to the Saudis. No difference, indeed, nice try in rewriting history now that everything we SAID was going to happen if this loser was elected, happened. Hell, even SNL predicted it in their skit back in 2000.

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:53 AM
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50. Did you vote for him?
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 09:55 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Most of us here were very clearly seeing what was happening and did all that we could to not only vote for Gore and Kerry, but to actively campaign for them, against him.

If you enabled that criminal enterprise in the White House by voting for it, it seems a tad disingenous to complain about it now.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #24
63. There is MUCH more wrong with bush and the republicans than just the things you stated...
...for example cultivating a mindset that breeds statements like your "left their country in ruins" comment. "They are muslims, what do you expect?"...

So the mission accomplished would have been "fuck up another country for no goddamn reason"?! Very "christian"...

No 9/11 connection, no WMDs no nothing. But bush's friends don't know where to stuff the money they make off of the war and the high oil prices, at the cost of an entire nation. In dollars AND blood.

Or torture, won't bother you probably, guess you have the "24" take on it...or maybe not? But how about outing a CIA agent? That ok?

The US is on the straight path to a banana republic...

Are you outraged? At least a bit?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:14 PM
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78. So do you agree that Bush should be impeached?
You didn't mention what you thought of him eroding your Constitutional rights, signing statements, and flagrant violation of FISA.

As for me, I can hope that you learn about about Muslims and their culture. Perhaps you aren't Christian, but if you are--do you really think Jesus would want to leave any country in ruins?
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:05 PM
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99. But you do suffer from the Granite Cookie Monster...pity,
...you sounded like someone who was finally waking up to understanding the differences between distractions and disasters. Now if you would be so kind as to pass the memo along to your idiotic chums maybe, just maybe we can work together to save America's democracy...if it ain't to late that is, THANK YOU VERY DAMNED MUCH!!! :grr:
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:37 AM
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25. We don't suffer from Bushphobia
We just suffer from Bush
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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:25 AM
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32. Feel the hate
The Pelosi-Gingrich Global Warming ad was a huge propaganda victory for the left, but you all hate Gingrich (Republicans) so much you couldn't see past your hate to celebrate your victory.

Both Democrat and Republican politicians are selling America out with free trade, and as long as were hating each other they will get away with it.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:41 AM
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34. Nice Try.... No Hate ...
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 06:43 AM by emanymton
.

I do not hate any body as much as you and yours love shrub. Using hate to try to justify your worthless taunts are foolish. Tell us of your love for shrub.

Gingrich was bought and paid for long ago with his 'book deal' with Murdock. Your man is a snake oil salesman. I celebrate the Gingrich calls himself a member of the Republic party. He is yours and you can have him.

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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:46 AM
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36. Yes you do
You call Bush a shrub, and Gingrich a snake oils salesman, you hate. Don't deny your true feelings.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:52 AM
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37. Sorry No Hate ...
.

Can't hate tools. The policies and procedure established and put into place are things I fight every day.

shrub will leave office (on his way to the Haag for war-crime trials, I hope) and I will not think twice about him. The effects of shrub will take generations to put right.

So tell us why you love shrub so much.

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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:06 AM
Response to Reply #37
38. Gingrich-Pelosi Global Warming add
In left forums, "I can't believe she would sit next to that piece of junk."

In right forums, "Newt you fool, how could you sit next to that thing?"




I don't love shrub so much, like I said, McCain is a Bush clone and I (along with many other Republicans) refuse to vote for him. McCain should be defeated.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:20 AM
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46. Why not despise these people? They have done nothing for the
citizens of this nation, except facilitate the loss of jobs, destroyed what credibility we had in the world, attempt to create, (and almost accomplish), a state of oligarchy bordering on royalty.

This is not the GOP of yore, it is a monstrous apparatus that has come to power by duping good people into a false sense of "worth". Before his death, an "arch-conservative", Barry Goldwater called the new Republican Party "shitheads". I never hear "the party of Lincoln" any more...it is the "party of Reagan", as if RR could shove Lincoln onto the sidelines.

Face it, your party is little more than a group of shills that is more than happy to destroy everything this nation stands for, just to grab another dollar, and the citizens be damned. If there is anything "good" about bush, it is that he has destroyed the GOP for a generation. Neo-conservatism should die a horribly painful death, staked into a lead lined outhouse and buried in a deep grave w/thousand of tons of concrete over the grave.

By the way...I fought for this nation, I love this nation, I care deeply for my fellow citizens on both sides of the aisle...and when bush is gone, and after many years of repairing the damage, even the R's will thank us for exposing and destroying Neo-conservatism.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #46
74. Hey I Despise Him.... I Want Him in Jail
the Hague would be much better. It would do wonders for our shitty reputation as a country.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #36
76. your problem is that you confuse contempt, complete and utter disrespect
and wishing this administration to be held accountable to the Hague and the World as hate. It is not hate to wish for justice and disrespect is not hate nor is contempt.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:45 AM
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35. Where did I say anything about Gingrich?
Mind-altering drugs must be more prevalent back Stateside than they were when I last
was there (and I had a meeting back at HQ just last week).

I didn't say anything about Gingrich (if you want to speak with someone who hates him,
go ask one of his former wives). He had a handshake that was as limp as dead fish, so he
didn't make much of an impression on me, but I didn't hate the guy. As as for Republicans,
I've known some pretty impressive ones in my day: Jake Javits, Nelson Rockefeller, Charlie
Goodell to name a few. But their party has totally abandoned what they used to stand for,
and they are no longer the party of conservatives, just extremists. Members like Linc
Chaffee and Jim Jeffords are so marginalized that they either leave or get dragged down
to defeat by mere association.

By the way, stopping global warming would be a victory not merely for the American left. There
are 6 billion or so other people on this planet besides the American left who would benefit
as well, not that they seem to matter much to the American right.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:34 AM
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29. It turns out the best way to destroy Republicans is to let them get into power.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:43 AM
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30. and they are getting ready to do it again by voting for John W McCain.
I guess the sick bastards love pain! Great post!
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John Crighton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:50 AM
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41. I am disgusted with fellow Republicans
Republicans bashed McCain for over 10 years (including me). McCain wins the primaries and because we HATE Hillary so much, were willing to get behind McCain by sacrificing a great deal of principles. See, HATE again, from Republicans. This election all about HATE.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #41
53. I responded to you upthread trying to say that Gore and Bush weren't different.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 10:09 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
You got fooled by Bush, and now you regret it. I think you're seeing very clearly how we who were never fooled for a moment, feel about it and although I appreciate the sentiment, you let yourself be fooled and because you chose not to see what was happening right before your eyes, you are culpable in what's happened over the last seven years.

You and your fellow Republicans are well on your way to destroying this country and its constitution and we Democrats and LIBERALS are going to do our best to try to reverse the damage before it's too late.

I don't hate you, because that's a pointless emotion, however, I see through you and you are not my friend.


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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:04 AM
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31. Buffoonery? WHAT buffoonery?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:37 AM
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40. That was bee-yoo-tee-ful!
Thank you! I love it when someone can take what we're all thinking and phrase it so eloquently.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:08 AM
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45. Great post
K & R
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:41 AM
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47. Anyone still supporting the Bush cartel
is, take your pick:
Reaping rewards from the cartel's immoral acts.
Suffering thought disorders and loose associations.
In a permanent vegetative state.
A Ku Klux Klan member.
High on dope.
As dumb as a bag of hammers.
All of the above.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:50 AM
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48. Dear Miss Greggs,
Ar hole household loves us some Dubya.

We wud drink a beer with that guy any day, yessir.

He's reglar folk. And a dee-vout Cristian too.

love,

One of them 28% voters.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:04 AM
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52. I HAVE CHECKED WITH ALL THE DEAD SOLDIERS.... YOU ARE FORGIVEN
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:11 AM
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54. K & R.
:kick:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:44 AM
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55. "How's that workin' out for ya?"
That's what runs through my mind every time I see a Bush bumper sticker. At stop lights I want to jump out of my car and key that question across the rear bumper of their Hummer/BMW/Benz. (I live in a blue collar neighborhood that abuts an affluent neighborhood; still, I never see Bush stickers on the beater cars driving around.)

The good news is that there are a lot fewer of those bumper stickers around than even a year ago. The bad news is, the folks who still have it on will never understand your OP. :(

K&R as usual, Nance.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #55
101. Whenever I see a Bush-Cheney bumpersticker
I have the overwhelming urge to post right on it:

Dumber than a post and PROUD OF IT

Sadly around me I DO see beaters with Bush-Cheney stickers. I'm assuming they are either Christians or scared blue collar white men who think that a vote for a Democrat will take away their rifles and raise their taxes.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:28 AM
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56. Nance, you overestimate Bush supporters
One needs an open mind to be able to realize what a disaster * has been.

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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:24 PM
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102. Let's get to the point
You need a MIND ... an open mind is really asking a lot.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:29 PM
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60. does that ever end up strong
K&R, nuff said.
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lilyannerose Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:30 PM
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61. They'll Tell You Just Fine
Don't ya just love yourself some of them true believers. OTOH, I still enjoy taking them down when I get the opportunity, then again I've noted that there has been this mysterious decline in his supporters, wonder what gives with that?:sarcasm:
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:44 PM
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62. You have it backwards. Bush supporters think all of this spells success.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #62
66. That's why his supporters ...
... have dwindled down to so few - nothing left but the brain-dead.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:52 PM
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65. Great piece Nance! And NEVER FORGET!
Don't expect any "ok you were right" 's though... whatever happened, the guy was sooo great to have a beer with!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:19 PM
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68. The financial benefits of a college education
no longer justify the debt incurred to get one.

In other words, wealthy people -- welcome aboard. Everyone else -- fuck off, suckers.

Welcome to the Third World.
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:31 PM
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69. K&R
Outstanding as usual.

Good luck getting incredibly arrogant people to eat their well deserved crow.

I've heard ONE, "you were right." That was from my mother, who I argue politics with several times a week (she's a hardcore RWer who all but disowned me when I told her I'd sworn off the republican party). It's taken hundreds of hours of head-bashing-into-wall arguments/debates where we went round and round while I tried to explain to her why she's always wrong and I'm always right. It took a lot of convincing, and unfortantely for most RWers, they don't have one of me in their family who is willing to go through that just to save their souls.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:35 PM
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70. The foot soldier R's have come to realize that the neo-con era
has come very close to destroying the nation they say they hold so dear. I have seen many here in Nebraska condemn those who couldn't "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", while the aided in milking the Treasury dry in so many ways. I used to hear farmers complain about "welfare queens", as they headed off to the bank to cash their subsidy checks while the price of grain was at an all time high. I've heard them complain about the price of fuel, while they pay no tax on the fuel they use to fill up their 12 foot long dual cab pickups w/the V8 450 cubic inch engine from farm fuel.

I see the privates in the GOP Army hoping for aid before they lose their homes, while they complained about their tax money going to aid a single parent w/2 kids...all $325 a month in a cash payment, not enough to pay the rent/gas/elec bills. But they are screaming for relief now, although they were under the impression that neo-con policies would make them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams...what they got was unemployment, and then the GOP put the kabosh on that.

They called for Social Security reform, they don't anymore, after seeing the financial policies that have been put into place by the GOP, they are glad they might have something to fall back on.

McCain is seen as more of the same, and NE might, just might, go Blue for the first time since Lyndon Johnson, in an attempt to stop the insanity.

But far and away, the most painful thing is to watch the tears of the families and friends of soldiers being buried because of this excursion into the Middle East. If this were a war for our survival, things would be different, but all it has done is lay upon the altar of war, the sons and daughters of fine Americans from all political stripes.

If there is a bright side to any of this, it is that the neo-con GOP will be going straight into hell along w/bush and cheney. The disaster they have brought upon this nation shall be a lesson on how not to run a country. If there is a hell...I believe that satan has his minions are stoking the fires for the arrival of this cabal. And while I do not wish ill upon almost anyone, this group of miserable bastards really does deserve to roast in hell. If there is justice, they will realize the errors they have made just before they leave this earth...but they will never be able to atone for what they have done, not just to the U.S., but to the rest of the world as well.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #70
71. Yet another post ...
... that should be its own thread.

(But I'm not going to beat that dead horse again - even though I just did.)

:hi:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:58 PM
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77. ...
;)
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. Yeah, post it. NanceGreggs is right.
As usual.

Post it.



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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #71
80. OK...this time around I posted it...
in a seperate thread...thanks, but really, I am happy in your shadow...:hug:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. YAY!!!
FINALLY!!!


:bounce: :pals: :woohoo: :applause: :hi:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:00 PM
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73. I Really Enjoy Reading Your Posts
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:15 PM
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81. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Nancy Greggs.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:18 PM
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82. And to top it off..
their asshole president is dancing and singing and conducting a band as though he is some damn hero!
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 05:29 PM
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84. From the ones who still support Bush....
I either hear that things are "just fine" (even though they can't afford to buy both gas and food in the same week, and never mind prescription medications)

or, I hear how rotten things are, but how it's all the Democrats' fault. Some of them, nearly eight years later, are still blaming Bill Clinton for their recent descent into near-poverty.

So I'm really tickled pink and gratified to hear former Bush-ites declaring themselves reformed...only it would have been nice for them to have figured it all out BEFORE they voted for him the second time around.

Denial...stupidity...injury/drug/alcohol-induced brain damage....

who knows what lies beneath it all?

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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:08 PM
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87. For all others who contributed to this thread
K&R
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:30 PM
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88. I still have die-hard Repuke friends, they're say there is nothing
wrong with the economy and * is doing a good job. I have others who now openly curse him. go figure. I have totally shut off all contact with several others. They wonder why the can't send out propaganda e-mails to me any more. One guy has a store plastered with * & pickles pictures along with St. Ronnie and one term wonder. He gets annoyed when I ask him what did he buy for all his money. I'd say now 80% of his stuff comes in from China or South American countries. A rabid Hill hater who will post extreme RW stuff in plain view. I've bid them adieu.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:43 AM
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106. Hell my RW neighbor thinks he'll go down in history as one of the greatest
presidents ever. Man is he ever a delusional stupid fuck!
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:07 PM
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89. Totally awesome (as usual) Nance!
Another great read!!!!!! :applause:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:47 PM
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92. I love your post.
I seldom hear a Republican criticize Bush even though evidence of his poor judgment and criminality are available for all to see. Unfortunately many that could visualize any kind of evil behavior by Bill Clinton turn the other way and close their ears to Bush misconduct.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:33 PM
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95. K/R
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:39 PM
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97. Thanks, Lochloosa ...
... not only for the K&R, but because I never tire of looking at that incredible photograph each time you post!
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:22 AM
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104. I know. I have been tempted to take it off. Makes me sad.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:59 PM
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103. Will beating this dead horse tenderize the meat?
'Cause, honestly, the only other reason for doing it is some kind of useless, pointless sadism.

The people who don't realize their mistake will never realize their mistake. The ones that did...will be put off by this constant beating on their dumber siblings.

So, because I try not to think bad thoughts about Ms. Greggs, it must be my first thought. So, to paraphrase the Firesign Theater, will your breakfast order be horse pie and a short stack, or horse and eggs?
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