Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Having traveled by air a few weeks ago

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:09 AM
Original message
Having traveled by air a few weeks ago
these comments by Peggy Noonan resonated:

America is in line at the airport. America has its shoes off, is carrying a rubberized bin, is going through a magnetometer. America is worried there is fungus on the floor after a million stockinged feet have walked on it. But America knows not to ask. America is guilty until proved innocent, and no one wants to draw undue attention. America left its ticket and passport in the jacket in the bin in the X-ray machine, and is admonished. America is embarrassed to have put one one-ounce moisturizer too many in the see-through bag. America is irritated that the TSA agent removed its mascara, opened it, put it to her nose, and smelled it. Why don't you put it up your nose and see if it explodes? America thinks.

and

The reasons for the quiet break with Mr. Bush: spending, they say first, growth in the power and size of government, Iraq. I imagine some of this: a fine and bitter conservative sense that he has never had to stand in his stockinged feet at the airport holding the bin, being harassed. He has never had to live in the world he helped make, the one where grandma's hip replacement is setting off the beeper here and the child is crying there. And of course as a former president, with the entourage and the private jets, he never will. I bet conservatives don't like it. I'm certain Gate 14 doesn't.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120906741679842493.html?mod=todays_us_opinion
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:12 AM
Response to Original message
1. Right on. rec'd
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:32 AM
Response to Original message
2. That's a looong way around the block just
to take a slash @ Obama's patriotism.

noonan needs to get a real job & join the rest of America.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. she is a lying repuke whore
".....no one is questiong his patriotism" - yeah right Peggy :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:40 AM
Response to Original message
4. The first part is spot on
The rest not so much.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:57 AM
Response to Original message
5. One thing is for certain. The chimp could not
care less that a 90-year-old Alzheimer's patient has her shoes yanked off before being forcibly lifted out of her wheelchair to be wanded (something I witnessed at Sea-Tac), because it suits his purpose of keeping Americans in fear so that he and his corporate buddies can engage in the wholesale pillaging of Iraq.

Only a fool would think Bush gives a rat's ass about ordinary people. Unfortunately, there are millions of fools in this country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. This is horrible. We are treated like cattle (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:30 AM
Response to Original message
6. Who cares what Peggy Noonan thinks?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:33 AM
Response to Original message
7. You forgot to add the part where the agent searches America's laptop, legally.
Recent court rulings have stated that the Feds may turn on any computer at borders and customs gates. Government in Action!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:29 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. Funny how that got overlooked. Assaults on body image vs assault on free thought.
Her problem isn't that this is being done, so much as it is being done to HER.
I agree with the resentment of the whole airport pretense and in spite of the author the opening is pretty good.
She likes to be crutched by a sense of elitism, though, to get through life.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:37 AM
Response to Original message
8. Stop flying. I did. Fuck them. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:39 AM
Response to Original message
9. I thought Peggy traveled by broom
:shrug::D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:34 AM
Response to Original message
11. Poor Peggy. Having worked tirelessly for such such results
she now doesn't like them, and can only whinge about it in her columns.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:14 AM
Response to Original message
12. Peggy Noonan, Jan 4, 2002.
Sept. 11 did many important things. Somewhere on the list is this: It gave shape, purpose and meaning to the new president's presidency. On Sept. 10 the Bush administration was about faith-based social assistance, tax cuts, an improved military--the modern conservative agenda. And like all agendas it had many parts, and the parts became a blur. That happens in politics. Sept. 11 blew the blur away. The presidency is now about two things: ridding the world of madmen who seek to terrorize, and making America safer from weapons of mass destruction. Everything else comes after that.

He has become, as everyone has pointed out, a leader. Our leader, the American president. There are some who knew he always had this potential, had the gift of figuring things out quickly, deciding, delegating, saying what he was doing and why, getting folks to see things his way. A year or so before he announced he would run for president I read a quote about him from the Texas Democrat Bob Bullock. He and George W. had become friends as they worked together during Mr. Bush's first year as governor. Bullock was smart and tough. And when he was asked about Mr. Bush, shortly before he died, he said, "Let me tell you about that fellow. He's going to be a president, and he's going to be a great one." I watched him closely after that and read everything about him. In time, I came to think: Bullock is going to be proved right.

Mr. Bush is not obsessed with his legacy. This is good because it suggests he is emotionally and intellectually mature, which is how we want our presidents to be. When you walk into the presidency as a fully formed adult your first thought is "What should I do first and how and when?" When you walk into it with more vanity than sense, more hunger than purpose, your first thought is of what history will say of you. This is like moving into a new neighborhood and deciding the first thing you'll do is find out if the neighbors like you, as opposed to the more constructive, "I think I'll cut the grass, paint the house and join the civic organization." Mr. Clinton spent all his time thinking about his legacy, and by the end he had one: He was the president who spent his time thinking about his legacy while Osama made his plans. He wasted history's time. Mr. Bush isn't like this. Be grateful.

Mr. Bush works well with the competing personalities around him. He keeps Colin Powell and Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Condi Rice and Paul Wolfowitz close, listens, seems to have an acute sense of what each can give him. He appreciates Mr. Powell's power as a leader and man of respect, and means to keep him close. He will have to, in 2002, which he has called "a war year." That war has many fronts and there are many ways to move forward on each; the war can become bigger or smaller, hotter or cooler, wider or narrower. When he makes his decisions he will announce them, explain them and argue for them with a striking plainness. The quality will be needed, and it is good that the president has it.


http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=95001687


We need a wet clean up at Gate 14. :puke:




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
13. Fuck Peggy Noonan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:02 AM
Response to Original message
14. Suck on it, Peggy. Your malignant Daddy-fantasies of Reagan paved the road, you greased the skids
And now you are shocked at your recent discovery of traces of simmering discontent in the land?

You enabled it. You wanted it. You made it happen. You're responsible.

So, again, I say - suck on it. It's yours.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 12:44 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC