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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:36 PM
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a slice of pizza up to $3 in my neighborhood (due to "rising wheat prices")
per my town newspaper (Hoboken, NJ). $3 for a slice of pizza!!!! Since when is a piece of frickin' pizza a luxury item? Well, the paper cited three pizzarias were charging that; the cheapest slice you can get now in my town is $2.25.

Forget Rev. Wright; let's talk pizza.



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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:38 PM
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1. at point do these places start to go out of business, because no one will buy the slices?
n/t
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:43 PM
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3. Soon.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:59 PM
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7. What do you want the vendors to do?
Sell their product at less than the cost of producing it?

The fact is, the price of pizza flour has tripled in the past few months, and their costs for energy have gone up as they have for all of us.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:05 PM
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16. At what time does this business stop paying me for what I provide them?
People can't afford pizza, so business cuts back on all their expenses, including what I sell to them. I make less, can't afford to buy pizza so cut back on that. Around and around.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:42 PM
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2. That's about a dollar per 100 calories.
Or one cent per calorie.

I don't know if that's good or bad.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:47 PM
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4. Yes. Let's talk about how to put food on our tables, and
keep America working, and at peace.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:52 PM
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5. Don't buy gas with ethanol. We've got stop all these farmers from planting corn.
Putting out food supply (not to mention our precious topsoil) in our gas tanks has got to be one of the stupidest ideas in the history of mankind. Many more like this and it's game over.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:58 PM
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6. I live in the Midwest where farmers have a collective orgasm
over anything that will raise the price of corn. King Corn.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:09 PM
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8. Wish I could
but it's mandated by law. Unless you buy diesel, you CAN'T buy gasoline without ethanol in it anymore.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:10 PM
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9. Here's an odd fact
Unlike most food, pizza is substantially cheaper in Australia (where the minimum wage is about $12.00 US per hour). Never have figured out why that is, but its been that way for years..

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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:29 PM
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10. Worth every penny;
Nothing better than N.J. pizzeria slices....
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:20 PM
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11. I don't buy pizza by the slice. I can't afford to pay that much for
so little......

I will, on occasion, go nextdoor to Papa John's and the their special: large thin-crust with pepperoni for $6.99.

Even better, I can whip up a few batches of pizza dough in my Cuisinart, throw them in the freezer, shred some mozzarella in same and freeze it, and just make my own damned pizzas at home.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:51 PM
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12. Was the pizzeria Benny Tudino's?
by any chance? Because they have the biggest slices in the known universe!

I lived on Park, between 6th and 7th, from 1984 to 1992. Fun town!!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:56 PM
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13. LOL- the paper didn't say; it was a headline on page one!
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 04:57 PM by npincus
I live in one of those teeny rowhouses in Willow Terrace (the cobblestone street between 6th & 7th, and willow & Clinton, across from the A&P- used to be a Foodtown, I think).

Benny's is good... it's hard to pick a favortite! Grimaldi's (doesn't sell by the slice) was started by the owner of Patsy's in Brooklyn and has the greatest brick oven pizza... this post is making me hungry! :hi:
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:02 PM
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14. Ooh, I love those cute little houses!
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:04 PM by latebloomer
Used to cut down that street all the time-- and, yes, it WAS a Foodtown (crummy).

Grimaldi's is after my time, but I'll have to check it out someday-- I love Patsy's --used to go there with the family when my dad was alive.

on edit-- The Patsy's I know is in midtown Manhattan-- didn't know there was one in Bklyn.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:45 PM
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15. oh, thank you.
I do love my little 12 foot-wide house! I used to think they were inhabited by gnomes or creatures w/elfin proportions! Folks here are nice too.

This neighborhood has been way-gentrified since your days here- the town has lost some of it's charm, I think, but is very nice and has lots of young-uns (I have a 5 year-old)... we managed to buy just before we would have been priced out. We definitely couldn't afford it now. The crummy Foodtown is now a nice, over-priced A&P that sells all the booze we can drink- LOL.

Yeah, I think the original one was in Brooklyn. Grimaldi's is awesome, but gets expensive because we're big eaters!

Cheers to you and to Hoboken! :toast:
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:26 PM
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17. It was well on the way to gentrification when we lived there
but now when we visit we're amazed at all the upscale housing at the back of town.

You ARE very lucky to have gotten in before it went completely out of control.

How's the school situation these days?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:18 AM
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18. improving- my daughter attended Mile Square pre-school and
is currently in Wallace (which has wonderful new playground equipment in the schoolyard). There has been such a population boom of young, many upscale families, that the town is focused on improving the schools and keeping urban flight down to a minimum. The buzz on the playground used to be about families moving to the burbs because of the schools- now it seems more and more are staying, a positve sign.

I'm happy so far- lots of changes underway. Curriculem is quite accelerated for kindergartem; my daughter gets homework and is learning the stuff I learned in 1st grade-- today she is getting a standardized math and reading test called "Terra Nova". I find that odd, but she doesn't seem to feel pressure-- it's just another day for her.

Are you thinking of moving back? Are you in Jersey?

Prices are comiing down a bit. There are at least 3 Willow Terrace homes on the market now! One in horrible shape that needs a gut-renovation just sold for 380K- it's across the street from me.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:57 AM
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20. I'm glad the schools are improving
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 09:58 AM by latebloomer
We moved when my older child was an infant, because my husband got a job in upper Westchester. But we've been in Montclair for 14 years- it's a cool town, beautiful,lots of trees and gorgeous Victorians, but with an urban feel to it, millions of restaurants, ethnically diverse population, avant-garde films, theater, known as a haven for artists and writers, lots of progressive people. A good compromise for people who fear becoming brain-dead in suburbia. Unfortunately it's becoming virtually unaffordable for the average person- no way we could afford to buy here now.

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:06 AM
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22. Montclair is lovely!
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 10:09 AM by npincus
Some of my cousins used to live there- they bought a gorgeous, huge Victorian many years ago that needed lots of TLC... it eventually got sold in a very bloody divorce battle. I remember playing there as a kid. Beautiful huge trees, very lovely. You are lucky! :)

It's amazing how the middle class has gotten priced our of decent neighborhoods that were once affordable. Second and thrid generation Hobokenites have to move out because the place is so damned expensive. A lot of them buy places in Bayonne or Jersey City Heights.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:38 AM
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19. I just sold my interest in a pizza place.
The cost of flour has more than tripled this year. And Cheese? Forget it.

We dropped calamari from the menu. To expensive to make and sell at a profit. Wings are on the edge. We had to cut back from 12 to 10 per serving. But, 12 jumbo wings weighed in at over 2 lbs.

My former partner is struggling to keep from raising prices. A plain slice is still $1.50. $0.35 per extra topping.


But, I still see the bank statements, and business is still off about 50%.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:01 AM
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21. Donuts that were 39 cents here a few months ago are a buck now
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:08 AM
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23. my kingdom for a Krispy Kreme
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