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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:19 AM
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The Eight Point Strategy for Conservative Election Victories
Much of world history has entailed a struggle between conservatives trying to maintain the status quo versus those (often called liberals) striving for a more equal societal distribution of wealth, power and opportunity. The history of the United States has been no different in that respect. With the founding of our country, a major step was taken towards reducing inequality among human beings. The U.S. Declaration of Independence of 1776 established the philosophical foundation for a nation where all people were to have equal opportunities for a fulfilling life. The ratification of the U.S. Constitution 12 years later represented the initial attempt to provide a permanent legal basis for that philosophical foundation.

For much of our history, liberals won most of the battles to expand democracy and thereby provide the basis for reducing inequality: From 1812 to 1856, property qualifications for voting were abandoned; passage of the 15th Amendment to our Constitution in 1870 prohibited the restriction of a person’s right to vote on the basis of race; passage of our 19th Amendment in 1920 prohibited the restriction of the right to vote on the basis of sex; passage of the 23rd Amendment in 1961 gave residents of the District of Columbia the right to vote for President; our 24th amendment in 1964 prohibited the use of poll taxes to restrict a person’s right to vote; and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 went a long way towards facilitating enforcement of our 15th Amendment.

Beginning with the Presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1933, our country began taking major steps towards economic equality in addition to voting equality. Prior to that time, great income disparity existed in our country, with the top 1% of individuals accounting for 17% of annual income and the top 10% accounting for 44% of annual income. But FDR initiated a wide range of policies – collectively referred to as the New Deal – which had the effect of substantially reversing income inequality for the first time in U.S. history. These policies included: Progressive taxation; labor protection laws; and several policies to provide a social safety net for Americans and otherwise reduce income inequality, including the Social Security Act of 1935, the GI Bill of Rights, and the development of several policies to facilitate job creation.

These policies were so successful that they lasted for several decades, despite tremendous opposition from the conservative elites whose wealth had been reduced. From 1932 to 1978, Americans voted for a Democratic President 8 times and a Democratic Congress 22 times, compared to a Republican President 4 times (The Republican Presidents of that era did not attempt to dismantle the New Deal) and a Republican Congress only 2 times. This 46 year bout of relatively liberal voting was accompanied by what Paul Krugman refers to as the greatest sustained economic boom in U.S. history, with median family income levels rising from $22,499 (in 2005 dollars) in 1947 (when accurate statistics first became available) to more than double that, $47,173 in 1980.


The tide shifts to conservatives

But then the gains in political and economic equality described above began to be reversed. Beginning in 1980, and for the next 25 years, except for some moderate growth during the Clinton years, there was almost no growth in median income at all, which rose only to $56,194 by 2005 (85% of that growth accounted for during the Clinton years).

The stagnation of median family income during this period of time was accompanied by a tremendous rise in the wealth of a tiny proportion of our population. This is vividly described by Jack Rasmus, who points out that “More than $1 trillion a year in relative income is now being shifted annually – from roughly 90 million middle and working class families to the wealthiest households and corporations.”

The consequences have been devastating for the middle and working class and the poor: Today, 46 million Americans are without health insurance, which results in thousands of premature deaths every year, including thousands of infants; approximately 7 million Americans who want jobs are unemployed; 12% of American households lack adequate food; approximately 3 million Americans are homeless in any given year; and 37 million Americans are in poverty, while the poverty rate continues to rise under George W. Bush’s administration.

These reversals, which have returned us to levels of income inequality not seen since pre-New Deal days, have been accompanied by intense and largely successful attempts by conservatives to dismantle the New Deal. It is not coincidental that concurrent with the grim economic statistics noted above, we have had a Republican President for 19 of 27 years and a Republican Senate for 17 of 27 years (though we did have a Democratic House for the first 14 years of that period).


EIGHT STRATEGIES FOR CONSERVATIVE VICTORIES IN U.S. ELECTIONS

As noted above, democracy is a form of government that should result in reductions in inequalities of wealth, power, and opportunity, since such reductions are in the interest of the vast majority of people when inequality is high. So, what is it that has enabled conservatives in recent decades to create legislation and policies that expanded inequality to record high levels, and yet continue to remain in office? They have used many strategies for this purpose, and we should take a good look at all of them:


Disenfranchisement of voters

The enfranchising of African-Americans poses a big problem for conservatives because a very high percentage of African-Americans vote Democratic. For example, in 2004 George Bush received only 11% of the African-American vote for President. Consequently, various means have been devised to limit or reverse the enfranchisement of African-Americans.

One means has been the “War on drugs”, declared by Richard Nixon in 1971. Since then, the U.S. prison population has risen from 300,000 in 1972 to about 2.1 million by mid-year 2004, according to Bureau of Justice statistics, despite a falling crime rate since 1991. 2006 international statistics show that the U.S. incarceration rate of 738 per 100,000 residents is now the highest rate in the world. The United States, with only 5 % of the world’s population, holds one quarter of the prison population of the world.

Of the total U.S. prison population in 2004, more than one quarter, 530,000, were imprisoned for drug offenses, and almost a tenth of those were for marijuana only. And many of those were for mere possession, rather than manufacturing or selling. For example, of 700,000 marijuana arrests in 1997, 87% were for mere possession, and 41% of those incarcerated for a marijuana offense were incarcerated for possession only.

Whenever and wherever victimless crimes are prosecuted and punished, especially when mandatory minimum sentences are on the books, the opportunity for arbitrary enforcement of the law based on racism or other nefarious factors is magnified tremendously. Therefore, it is not surprising that blacks constitute a highly disproportionate percent of the population arrested for (37%) or serving time for (42% of those in federal prisons and 58% of those in state prisons) drug violations. That is despite the fact that 72% of illicit drug users are white, compared to 15% who are black, according to the Federal Household Survey (See item # 6). Magnifying the effect of imprisonment on disenfranchising voters are laws in many U.S. states that prohibit former felons from voting, thus extending the period of their disenfranchisement for the rest of their lives.

And it gets worse. In an effort to suppress the Democratic vote in the 2000 Presidential election, Florida Governor Jeb Bush worked with a contractor (ChoicePoint) to develop a system that would purge from the voter list, not only ex-felons (who by Florida law were not allowed to vote), but also close computer matches of ex-felons. As most of the close computer matches were black (because of similar names), and therefore likely to be Democratic voters, this cunning plan was intended to target black voters. The plan worked, disenfranchising about 11,883 legal voters, thus delivering Florida and the Presidency to George Bush.

Currently, some states are proceeding with laws requiring voters to show picture identification before they can vote, as a means of disenfranchising poor voters. This ploy is so similar to the poll tax, prohibited by our 24th Amendment, that it is hard to imagine how they can get away with it. But given the conservative composition of our federal courts today, they just may do that.


Election fraud

Now that we have increasing computerization of our voting system, the potential for election fraud would appear to be multiplied. Large discrepancies between exit polls and official vote counts, with the official vote counts favoring the Republican Party, have led to strong suspicions of stolen elections through electronic manipulation of voting machines in the 2004 Presidential race, several 2006 Congressional races, and others.

Sworn testimony before the House Judiciary Committee Democrats regarding intent to program electronic voting machines to switch votes to George W. Bush, as well as numerous reports by voters of their votes switching to Bush when they tried to vote for John Kerry, add greatly to these suspicions. Claims by voting machine companies that their voting machines are “proprietary” and therefore immune to government inspection prevent adequate investigation of these many anomalies. The end result is that we are likely to face many more episodes of electronic election fraud until something is done to prevent it from occurring.

Elections are also stolen by illegally purging voters who are legally registered to vote. This apparently resulted in the disenfranchisement of close to a couple hundred thousand voters in highly Democratic Cuyahoga County, Ohio, as well as many tens of thousands more voters in other Ohio Counties, in the 2004 election. That was probably the means by which George Bush won Ohio in 2004, thereby handing him another stolen four years of Presidency. And as Mark Crispin Miller points out in “Fooled Again” – How the Right Stole the 2004 Election and Why they’ll Steal the Next One Too (Unless we Stop them)”, illegal voter purging has not by any means been limited to Ohio.

Other schemes that enabled George Bush’s Ohio victory in 2004 include a massive shortage of electronic voting machines in heavily Democratic Franklin County and a wide variety of dirty tricks to keep people from voting.


Control of telecommunications

With passage of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, a very small number of very wealthy corporations began to monopolize our national news media. The result has been a national news media that has sunk to new depths in their failure to inform the American people about the most important issues of the day. To the extent that they are interested in important issues and events, their objectives are primarily to misinform the American people into quietly accepting the continued dismemberment of FDR’s New Deal and the consequent continued widening of inequality in our country.

The examples are legion. Our corporate news media largely gave George Bush a free ride in his two Presidential election bids: They utterly failed to explain how his tax cut proposals would benefit only the top 1-2% of wage earners in our county; they utterly failed to enlighten Americans concerning the lies that the Bush administration used to lead us into war against a sovereign people who posed no danger to us; and they failed to pursue Bush’s going AWOL from National Guard duty as a young man. But when it comes to Democratic candidates for President, the amount of attention lavished on the most trivial unflattering but unsubstantiated details is absurd in the extreme, as shown by the great amount of attention given during the 2004 election to unsubstantiated and false accusations made by the “Swift Vote Veterans for Truth” against John Kerry.

Three excellent books about the extreme conservative turn of our national news media in recent years are: “Into the Buzzsaw – Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press” edited by Kristina Borjesson, “What Liberal Media? – The Truth About Bias and the News” by Eric Alterman, and “Lapdogs – How the Press Rolled Over for Bush” by Eric Boehlert.


Religion

Conservatives of course need a much larger demographic group to vote for them than only the rich and powerful. Since the 1980s, perhaps the largest demographic group in their corner has been fundamentalist Christians. Conservatives have worked very hard to cultivate and activate this group.

There is no evidence that this move of fundamentalist Christians towards the Republican Party in recent years is because of Republican policies being more representative of the Christian religion than are Democratic policies. In fact, Democrats favor policies that are much more in accordance with the heart of the Christian religion than do Republicans. Jesus Christ was a liberal. As explained by Gary Vance, a Christian Evangelical Minister:

Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that He defied hated and crucified Him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned Himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of His day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression.… Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and He was judged and hated for it.

Then how have conservatives managed to convince fundamentalist Christians to vote for them in such large numbers? They do it through hate and fear. Mostly, they convince a certain segment of fundamentalist Christians that liberals are out to destroy their religion. They say that liberals have proclaimed war on Christmas; liberals are out to destroy Christian marriage by pushing for equal rights for homosexuals; and they say that by keeping prayer out of the public school system liberals would deny the right of Christians to practice their religion.

This is all a smokescreen. Liberals have no interest whatsoever in destroying Christianity. They simply believe in the separation of church and state, and they believe that minorities should not be discriminated against in the interest of those Christians who are intolerant of the beliefs of others. Vance puts this all in perspective:

I am glad that conservative Republican candidates advocate for the family and a few Christian issues, but we must quit pretending that they are the only ones that Christians should consider voting for. People should not call themselves pro-life if they are only anti-abortion and yet feel no twinge of conscience over the unfair application of capital punishment or wars fought for dubious motives. A true pro-life position cares just as passionately for the born as the un-born and views war as a last resort when all other options are exhausted.


Racism

Paul Krugman, in “Conscience of a Liberal”, explains how the radical conservative movement in our country has used racism to take back the South as a major part of its electoral strategy. The American South, due to its legacy of slavery, has long been the most conservative and the most racist region of our country. They had also long adhered to the Democratic Party, simply because it was the Republicans of the 1860s who ended slavery.

But with the passage of legislation like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, all that changed, as conservative white Southerners began to leave the Democratic Party in droves. The extent of Southern antipathy to the Civil Rights Act can be understood by looking at the Senate vote totals for that Act. Despite the fact that a Democratic presidential administration sponsored the bill, a much larger percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for it:

Republicans: 27 aye, 6 no (including the lone Southern Senate Republican)
Democrats: 46 aye, 21 no
 Non-Southern Democrats: 45 aye, 1 no
 Southern Democrats: 1 aye, 20 no

Here is an assessment (see 3rd quote) by three Harvard economists that describes the dynamics of how race, economic and social equality, and welfare programs in our country have affected Southern politics:

Racial discord plays a critical role in determining beliefs about the poor. Since minorities are highly over-represented amongst the poorest Americans, any income-based redistribution measures will redistribute particularly to minorities. The opponents of redistribution have regularly used race based rhetoric to fight left wing policies… America’s troubled race relations are clearly a major reason for the absence of an American welfare state.

However, it remained for a charismatic politician, Ronald Reagan, to pick up this idea and make it into a national movement, while being careful to speak in a code that wouldn’t alienate too many non-racist whites. Reagan was a master at doing that, which accounted for much of his political success, which greatly accelerated the hemorrhage of racist Southern whites to the Republican Party. Krugman explains:

The Ronald Reagan who became California’s Governor in 1966 (served as the) vehicle for white voters angry at the bums on welfare… The image is clear: Welfare chiselers were driving up decent peoples’ taxes. Never mind that it wasn’t true… that “welfare” never was a major cost of government, and that cheating never was a significant problem… Reagan didn’t need to point out that a substantial portion of those who entered the welfare roles were black.


Money and legalized bribery

The role of money in American politics is a pernicious system that perpetuates itself. Big moneyed interests “donate” (actually ‘invest’ would be a more accurate term) large amounts of money to politicians, and in return those politicians enact legislation that helps those interests to get more money, at the expense of the public, thereby enhancing their wealth and power and enabling them to continue to feed the beast.

The Republican Party could not elect its candidates to office in the face of an accurate assessment of its performance and agenda by American citizens. The Republican agenda is anti-people, and very few Americans would vote for it if they understood what it is. But largely because of the money they receive from wealthy and powerful interests, Republicans are able to run political campaigns that do an effective job of concealing their true agenda.

Ironically, the current Republican nominee for President played a very important role in taking a big step towards solving this problem – by working hard for passage of the McCain-Feingold bill, which accomplished some laudable goals, such as banning unlimited contributions to political candidates and parties and unlimited use of so-called issue ads (political advertisements that do everything except actually tell you to vote for a particular candidate). I say ironically because his Democratic opponent will raise and spend significantly more money in the 2008 general election than McCain will – perhaps the first time in our history that the conservative candidate for President will be outspent by the more liberal candidate.

Unfortunately, it appears that McCain is unwilling to abide by the terms of the statute that was named after him.


Nationalism and militarism

There are many powerful people in our country and elsewhere for whom war is a very profitable business. Hence President Eisenhower’s warning to the American people in his farewell address to “guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.” And hence the belief of many people today that one of the primary motivations for war throughout history has been private profit.

How do a nation’s leaders convince young men and women to risk their limbs, lives, and future by fighting in a war? The typical way they do it is through appeals to nationalism, which they call “patriotism”. And let us never forget that appeals to nationalism are one of the favorite tricks of fascist dictatorships.

Conservatives put nationalism/”patriotism” to political purposes by using it to criticize liberals who question arguments for war or for military spending in general. If a Democrat criticizes the Bush administration’s war policies, or even votes against them, the Republicans attack him or her as being “unpatriotic”. The validity of the criticism need not even be considered, since they would have us believe that it is “unpatriotic” to criticize our president in time of war under any circumstance. Since George Bush has declared us to be in a state of perpetual war, that would mean that from now until the end of eternity it will be unpatriotic to criticize our president, no matter how incompetent or ill-intentioned (unless our President is a Democrat of course).

This kind of strategy has resulted in one of the few advantages that Republicans enjoy today over Democrats on actual issues. By painting Democrats as “weak on defense” they kill two birds with one stone: They appeal to our fears in order to get the American people to vote for Republicans; and at the same time they encourage their Democratic colleagues to vote for most of their war aims.


Fake populism

The ultimate in hypocrisy is the fake populism that today’s conservatives use to appeal for votes. They do this, with a tremendous assist from the corporate news media, largely by constantly referring to liberals as “elites”. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy because the virtual definition of today’s conservative movement is elitism. How could anyone believe otherwise? Our conservative leaders seek to maintain and expand their many privileges over the vast majority of other Americans. Those conservatives who do not have an abundance of wealth and power may be conservative in many ways, but they certainly aren’t among the movement’s leaders. Rather, they have been suckered in by the many tricks that the conservative leaders use to convince them that up is down, war is good, and it is the liberals who are the “elites”.

The current presumptive Democratic nominee for President, Barack Obama, is beginning to get first hand experience with this ploy. He is said not to be a “regular guy”, and therefore is an elitist, because he is a poor bowler, he was seen choosing orange juice over coffee, and because two of the demographic groups that most support him are African-Americans and the college educated – in other words, not “regular people”.


CONCLUSION

Each of the eight strategies discussed above have a great deal in common and is based on a common underlying need. The ugly truth of the matter is that conservatives cannot win elections based on merit. They cannot win elections as long as the American people understand what their real views are and what they’re really up to.

Thus they must make themselves and their opponents to appear to be what they are not. They play the fear card to make religious Christians believe that liberals are out to destroy their religion. They play the fear card and the nationalism/”patriotism” card to get us to support their wars without asking why and to believe that they are the ones who will protect us. They play the fear card to stir up racial animosity and thereby split us up. And they play the populist card to make us believe that their conservative agenda is really a liberal agenda with a different name and that the liberal agenda is their agenda.

To do all this they need to get their message out. They do that by using their natural money advantage (which they have because of their wealthy base) to distribute their misinformation and lies to the American people. And they do it through their shills in the corporate news media.

But even all that isn’t enough to make most people believe that they are the ones who have the interests of the American people in their hearts. So they must resort to their ultimate firewall – limit democracy by disenfranchising those who are likely to vote against them and by using voting machines that count our votes in secret.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:41 AM
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1. And when Clinton piles on with the "elitism" bullshit--
--she is torpedoing her own campaign as well as Obama's.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:31 AM
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4. Thanks, Clinton-basher. God forbid we should have a nondivisive thread!
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 05:32 AM by Perry Logan
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:45 AM
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17. She't the candidate who uses nothing but Rethug memes
Obama does that occasionally, but Clinton does it all the time.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:16 PM
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27. That's a bit of hyperbole or exaggeration
She uses conservative talking points way more than she should IMO.

But she certainly doesn't do it all the time.

Universal health care is not a conservative meme.

Nor is reversal of the Bush tax cuts on the rich.

Nor is her promise to make withdrawal from Iraq a priority -- which she has said on many occasions.

Nor is her plans to deal with global warming.

In fact, here website is filled with liberal memes.

She uses Republican memes mainly when she is criticizing Obama, or when she's trying to sound tough.

I will be very unhappy if she gets the nomination.

But we need to be fair about our criticisms of her. We will need her supporters in November.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:01 PM
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33. Withdraw from Iraq the better to obliterate Iran?
Yes, her website has liberal programs on it. As Rockridge keeps saying, though, people don't base voting decisions on facts and programs, they base them on framing. Dems made the same mistakes in 2004--all this "reporting for duty" crap just reinforced the Rethug meme of scaring the shit out of people so that military operations are the most important thing that a president could do.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:02 PM
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36. Yes, I agree, I hate it that she's doing that
I will never ever vote for her again in a Democratic primary.

All I'm saying is that we should recognize the good with the bad and speak accordingly, without exaggeration. We need her supporters for the GE, and we should not unnecessarily antagonize them by exaggerating the bad things about her. Also, I am convinced that she would be a whole lot better than McCain. I will vote for her in the GE in the very unlikely event that she gets the nomination, just as I hope that her supporters will come to their senses and support Obama if he wins the GE. We are far more likely to widen the war with McCain than with Clinton. I am hoping that a lot of what is going on is just tough talk, in order to assure those who wouldn't trust a woman to protect them that she can be trusted to do so.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:15 PM
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43. Probably you're right about the tough talk
However, dammit, that is RETHUG framing! Publicly agreeing with Rethugs is guaranteed to be an absolute disaster for either her or Obama in the general election.

Of course she would be better than McCain, tough talk or no. At least we'd get competent government employees and judges out of her.
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:18 AM
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23. In a finely researched thread, please cite your case
With attribution and fully sourced references. Just do me that favor, thanks.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:39 AM
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47. OK--here's Thomas Frank
At least Obama shifted the frame by actually talking about economics. Clinton just keeps reinforcing it, which will destroy her as well as Obama in the general election.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120873309012529689.html

"Elitism" is thus a crime not of society's actual elite, but of its intellectuals. Mr. Obama has "a dash of Harvard disease," proclaims the Weekly Standard. Mr. Obama reminds columnist George Will of Adlai Stevenson, rolled together with the sinister historian Richard Hofstadter and the diabolical economist J.K. Galbraith, contemptuous eggheads all. Mr. Obama strikes Bill Kristol as some kind of "supercilious" Marxist. Mr. Obama reminds Maureen Dowd of an . . . anthropologist.

Ah, but Hillary Clinton: Here's a woman who drinks shots of Crown Royal, a luxury brand that at least one confused pundit believes to be another name for Old Prole Rotgut Rye. And when the former first lady talks about her marksmanship as a youth, who cares about the cool hundred million she and her husband have mysteriously piled up since he left office? Or her years of loyal service to Sam Walton, that crusher of small towns and enemy of workers' organizations? And who really cares about Sam Walton's own sins, when these are our standards? Didn't he have a funky Southern accent of some kind? Surely such a mellifluous drawl cancels any possibility of elitism.

<snip>

If Barack Obama or anyone else really cares to know what I think, I will simplify it all down to this. The landmark political fact of our time is the replacement of our middle-class republic by a plutocracy. If some candidate has a scheme to reverse this trend, they've got my vote, whether they prefer Courvoisier or beer bongs spiked with cough syrup. I don't care whether they enjoy my books, or would rather have every scrap of paper bearing my writing loaded into a C-47 and dumped into Lake Michigan. If it will help restore the land of relative equality I was born in, I'll fly the plane myself.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:02 AM
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2. Very nicely done
I enjoyed your piece. Well researched, well written and not biased in favor of a particular candidate.

It always amuses me when Republicans gnash their teeth and cry crocodile tears over the lack of black, Asian, Jewish etc. participation in their party. They honestly like to pretend that they are just CONSTANTLY misunderstood by people of color and non-Christians in this country and if everyone just knew more about them and all they've done to uplift minorities in this country, we'd all be running to our local RNC office to sign up. The only thing folks can't understand about the Republicans is who they think they're trying to fool.

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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:09 AM
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7. The party of Lincoln governs like the Confederacy won the Civil War.
Racists, child-molesters, election thieves and other miscreants:

Join the Republican party -- it's a (very) big tent.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:00 AM
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13. Thank you -- That reminds me of the joke: How can you tell when a Republican is lying?
Answer: When you see his mouth moving.

Like all good jokes, that one is all too much grounded in reality.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:53 PM
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26. Nah - they lie on paper too. K & R nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:00 AM
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44. Whoops, I didn't think about that.
:P
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:55 AM
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3. kicking bookmarking recommending.
Thanks.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:01 AM
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5. Excellent summary, Thank you. . . . .k&r
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Coes Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:16 AM
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6. excellent article

the control of communications is a very powerfull weapon. Tell a lie 5 times, and it becomes the truth.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:41 AM
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24. That reminds me of something my freshman English teacher told our class...
"If nine out of ten people believe something, then it's a fact." I then countered that since the whole class thought she was stupid, that she should probably resign. Needless to say, I got into a bit of trouble, but the bitch never fucked with me again.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:26 PM
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28. Thank you -- Isn't that the truth!
Al Gore said he invented the internet.
Al Gore said he invented the internet.
Al Gore said he invented the internet.
Al Gore said he invented the internet.
Al Gore said he invented the internet.

Al Gore exaggerates about everything.
Al Gore exaggerates about everything.
Al Gore exaggerates about everything.
Al Gore exaggerates about everything.
Al Gore exaggerates about everything.

Al Gore would lick the bathroom floor to be president.
Al Gore would lick the bathroom floor to be president.
Al Gore would lick the bathroom floor to be president.
Al Gore would lick the bathroom floor to be president.
Al Gore would lick the bathroom floor to be president.

George Bush would be fun to have a beer with.
George Bush would be fun to have a beer with.
George Bush would be fun to have a beer with.
George Bush would be fun to have a beer with.
George Bush would be fun to have a beer with.

George Bush might not be the brightest bulb in the land, but he's honest.
George Bush might not be the brightest bulb in the land, but he's honest.
George Bush might not be the brightest bulb in the land, but he's honest.
George Bush might not be the brightest bulb in the land, but he's honest.
George Bush might not be the brightest bulb in the land, but he's honest.

Now that I've established all these thruths, nobody mess with any more.


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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:22 AM
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8. Once again, an excellent piece. Thank you!
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:25 AM
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9. Thanks for this
It didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know, but I have the sort of tidy mind that loves to see things organized into lists, 8-point plans and the like. So K&R.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:49 PM
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42. Yeah, me too -- I can't make sense of stuff until I organize it
Sometimes when you oganize things you see explanatory patterns that you wouldn't otherwise see.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:32 AM
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10. Excellent
Thank you for this.


Without the media none of the rest would be so easily done.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:48 AM
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11. Excellent piece.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:00 AM
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12. Comprehensive, Clear and Prescriptive
Just what the Doctor ordered!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:01 AM
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14. K & R!!! "Fake populism" says it best. n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:47 AM
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19. If fake populism is a conservative strategy--
--then why did Clinton go along with the media "elitism" crap about "bittergate"?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:09 AM
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21. When she does that, she's wearing her conservative hat
What else can you say. Whenever a Democrat uses conservative Republican talking points s/he is acting in a conservative manner.

I have to confess that I voted for Hillary. The morning of Election Day in MD I had intended to vote for Edwards, even though he had just dropped out. I was virtually dead evenly split between Clinton and Obama. But my daughter called me that morning and convinced me to vote for Hillary, so I split my vote between her and Edwards.

But shortly afterwards she began going negative and using Republican talking points to attack Obama. I couldn't stand that, so I switched my allegiance to Obama. Then the Wright controversy came up, as well as other things, and I was very impressed with how Obama handled all that. I've really come to look at him in a different light in the past several weeks.
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:41 AM
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15. kick kick kick.
This is so good, it needs to be made sticky !
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:44 AM
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16. Excellent work. Must read. Two very enthusiastic thumbs up for this piece!
It describes the last 20 years of elections at every level of government PERFECTLY.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:52 PM
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39. Thank you -- And look at this!
The USSC approved today the disenfranchising of yet more thousands of voters!

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5932

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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:46 AM
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18. Can we make this a sticky thread?
Please :)
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:33 PM
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29. Sure, but
What is a sticky thread?
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:43 PM
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30. Is that not the common word for a thread that stays at top?
:)
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:27 PM
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32. I haven't heard it before, but that doesn't mean that it isn't used
Anyhow, I think it's doing pretty good, and thank you for your help :).

As you can see, I stayed up till after 1 a.m. last night working on it, and that's way past my bed time.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:26 PM
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49. I second that request to stickify this thread.
I think having this information easily available would make it easier to counter these tactics used by the right.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:09 AM
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20. K&R
:thumbsup:
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:15 AM
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22. Nicely fleshed-out piece. K & R.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:09 PM
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25. Can we use this in other forums?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:24 PM
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40. As far as I'm concerned you can.
I don't know what the rules are on that.

What forum did you want to use it on?
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:58 PM
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31. Fantastic work TFC!
K & R'd, and bookmarked for future reference.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:14 PM
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34. K/R
:thumbsup:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:19 PM
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35. K&R explains well about the huge black jail population
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:05 PM
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41. Yes, that's one of the biggest travesties in our country today IMO
I hate victimless crimes.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:29 PM
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37. Time for change: giving us one tour de force followed by another followed by another
:applause:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:14 PM
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38. Thank you Indepat
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:25 AM
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45. Racism - now Repubs make it global.
Just got back from a family function in the deep South. Knowing I am a liberal, one person got me into a political discussion with a Republican. He didn't talk about welfare or other white vs. black themes, but he was heavy into the "we gotta defend ourselves against "radical Islam" but could not explain to me why invading Iraq was the supposed correct response to 9-11. They've gotten a new hot button topic and can hide somewhat hide their racism against blacks.

Anyhow, that's what I was thinking (along with how can you be so stupid).
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:58 AM
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48. That's so typical
They can repeat the talking points that they've heard so much, believing them to reflect reality since they've heard them repeated so much. But that's the extent of their understanding. Beyond their ability to repeat talking points they're clueless.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:51 AM
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46. bookmark for morning n/t
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:09 PM
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50. this needs a ...
:kick:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:44 PM
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51. Bookmarked for further reading, thanks.
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