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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:41 PM
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Want to know what Truckers are paying for diesel fuel nationwide?
http://www.tatravelcenters.com/taweb/Content/DieselPrices.aspx?page_id=200
Highest = $4.569 in Fultonville, NY Lowest = $3.989 in Seymour, IN

http://www.petrotruckstops.com/fuel_search.sstg

Of the 69 Petro Stopping centers, the cheapest according to their website is $3.989 in Canutillo, TX, I-10 Exit 2, near the NM/TX line north of El Paso. The most expensive is at the Rochelle, IL facility, I-39 at Route 38, Exit 99 at $4.519/gal

A similar list from Flying J Truck stops.
http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm?state=ALL (note the Canadian prices are per liter)

There are cheaper fuel stops out there, but these are "The big 3" truck stop operators in the US.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:46 PM
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1. Heretic, do you know why diesel has become more expensive than gas?
I remember when diesel was the cheapest fuel, cheaper than unleaded regular. In the last 4 or 5 years, it has become more expensive than premium. I've heard the explanation that it's a matter of supply and demand and that demand from Europe is very big, because of all the small mini-cars that have tiny diesel engines over there. But isn't all domestic diesel refined in the U.S.? Am I wrong on that? Don't the U.S. refiners decide how much diesel to crack from a barrel of oil and determine the supply? Can you set me straight on the reason diesel has become the most expensive fuel, after years of being the cheapest?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:19 PM
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2. I have heard it is because we need the diesel over in the Middle East and in Iraq to keep the war
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:19 PM by truedelphi
Machine going there full force.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:27 PM
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3. When I started driving heavy trucks in the late 70's, Diesel was anywhere from 25% to 50% less than
regular unleaded. Over the years it crept up and it seems to me it was in the early 90's when parity began to be reached between regular and diesel. I had long thought much of it had to do with taxation, as an over-the-road truck will typically put on 200 or more gallons at a fill up and that represented and enormous revenue opportunity for the various states. In the old days, trucks used to have to have a fuel tax sticker for each state they operated in and purchased fuel in. Now that complex system has been replaced with the "IFTA" sticker or "International Fuel Tax Agreement (or Association)

Here is the page from their web site which lists the tax per gallon assessed by the various states and Canadian Provinces;
http://www.iftach.org/taxmatrix3/choose_tableq2.php

But that list does not really answer the core question - why is diesel so high?

It has as much to do with the switch to low-sulfur diesel than anything, I think. But I confess, I am not qualified to answer your questions authoritatively.

I am not a petroleum engineer and I have never worked at a refinery (though I think there are several DU'rs that have) but I read an article recently which noted that lately we have been importing diesel from Europe. Yup, ocean going tanker ships coming to the states full, not of crude oil but of diesel, ready to be pumped into a truck. There are many reasons this is happening, from maintenance on US refinery's to seasonal formula switching to the old "NIMBY" (Not In My Back Yard) and "BANANA" (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything) arguments against building new refineries.

It's a combination of factors; Increased worldwide demand (expansion in China and India means more goods moved by diesel powered transport), the switch to low-sulfur diesel in this country, generally tight refining capacity and taxes.

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