Does anyone out there care that we lost 5 soldiers today, bringing the

[jasmine621]

total of US military deaths to 49 for the month of April?

i guess we care more about tearing down our presidential candidates?

[Postman]

1. Who won on "Dancing With The Stars"?

n/t

[LakeSamish706]

2. Yes I care, but at this moment in time until we get someone in the White House...

as Commander In Chief that also cares there is absolutely "F" all I can do about it. Someone tell these troops to lay down there weapons and walk away from this bullshit war would work just fine with me. Don't think Americans in general approve of what is going on, but how do we get this POS out of our most sacred place?

And of course it goes without saying that the someone I am talking about is not either of the other lame POS candidates in this race.

[Ilsa]

3. ICC says it is 51 for the month.

YEah, my husband checks ICC several times a day, and he freaked tonight when it went up so fast. http://icasualties.org/oif/
No ONE on teeeeveeee is talking about it though.

[LakeSamish706]

4. We the peole have allowed a F***ing lunatic to occupy the WH for almost 8 years now...

No one seems to be able to dislodge the toilet congestion in this matter. Our Congress Critters need to be thrown out on there ears and new ones (that truly care installed) but for the moment we are stuck...

[mike_c]

5. we didn't "lose" them....

They were killed occupying a country they invaded in a war of aggression. That's the sort of thing that happens when countries send their armies off to violate other nations. I'm sorry for they and their families, but not particularly sympathetic, if you understand the difference. They should not be there killing Iraqis.

[LakeSamish706]

6. Yeah, but thats not there fault.. It's the squatting leadership that has and is causing ...

our grieve. Lets get them out and then we can bring our troops home.

[mike_c]

7. I'm not as forgiving as you....

Every American soldier in Iraq faced a moral choice and most made the wrong decision. The really admirable ones are the ones who refused. But I do agree with you that the politicians who started this war and who continue it-- including the congress-- are the bigger war criminals. None of us are innocent, however. History will remember that.

[LakeSamish706]

8. "Someone tell these troops to lay down there weapons" If you read my 2nd. post...

on this thread you will see the above suggestion...

[mike_c]

9. agreed, 100 percent....

Sorry, I'm a bit gruff sometimes. I'm just so tired of all the pro-militarism we're surrounded by. The military isn't doing anything honorable or worthy of support in Iraq, something that too many seem unwilling to face.

Peace.

[LakeSamish706]

10. I am totally with you... Being 60 years of age I have lived through Vietnam and many other...

screwed up mistakes that this "Great" nation has undertaken.... During my years, there have been many not so great undertakings to say the least and it saddens me beyond belief to think back on all of the young men and women that have had to go through this shit because some shit ass leader that was exercising his/her ego.

[Hippo_Tron]

19. Soldiers are supposed to follow their orders without question

That's pretty much the way it has been throughout most of history. Based on this, the soldiers and sailors are making a morally correct decision to uphold the integrity of the military and its procedures. We may need that military for a good war again some day. If we set the precedent that soldiers can just lay down their arms then fighting that just war may be more difficult to fight.

My point is that your qualm is with the entire military system, not with the soldiers and sailors themselves. In this system, soldiers are basically robots who follow commands. You want them to actually consider whether or not they should fight and the military (as it is now) simply isn't designed for that.

[mike_c]

21. just following orders....

An utterly discredited defense, as it should be.

[Hippo_Tron]

23. It's somewhat of a paradox

Soldiers have to follow their orders yet that's not an acceptable defense and I agree it shouldn't be. Perhaps they shouldn't have become soldiers in the first place.

[1776Forever]

11. What got me today Obama had a Reservists who asked a very important question & MSM didn't mention it

Damn! What the H - do we have to get our own damn TV station for the truth? I am going to email Ed Schultz on this and let him know how I feel. He was on Race for the White House tonight with Gregory and all I heard before I finally turned it was about Rev. Wright for almost 20 minutes! I am so sick of not getting the REAL issues out there for us to talk about as I know most if not all the people who really care do too!

Anyway the young lady said she had fought in the Middle East, and her husband was on his way to Germany to be deployed there again, as she spoke to Sen. Obama. She said that she had a cohort in the Reserves who had come to her in tears and told her that his family could not get the health care they needed now that he was back in the US! He said it would be better if was in Iraq again!

Sen. Obama said that he agreed that there is a huge problem in this area with the Reservists and the Guard and said that if our country was going to continue to use them as "regular" Army/Navy/Marines with constant deployments one right after another then they should get the same benefits as "regular" solders do! I support that 100%! He should make an ad with that in it! I think our heroes of the guard and reserves, which 2 of my sons are, should be commended and helped along instead of handing out millions of dollars to the Iraqi shills and thieve like KBR and Halliburton!!!!!!!!!!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[fed-up]

13. just spoke w/someone who said their relative was kicked out regular army-PTSD-allowed into Reserves

where there is minimal benefits

good enough for the reserves, where it won't cost the military as much (and where he won't get the treatment he needs), but not good enough for the "regular army"

this makes me really ill when I think of what they are paying Blackwater

has anybody else heard similar stories?

[w8liftinglady]

12. I care...and plan to rub my neighbors faces in their hypocrisy.

[Disturbed]

14. America will lose a thousand more in Iraq unless

a Pres. decides to end the US Occupation of Iraq.
Congress will never cut off the funds for this Fiasco.

[Kool Kitty]

15. How sad for these families.

Awful. :cry: :cry: :cry: What a goddamned waste.

[Anser]

16. Nope

No one here against the war, or the atrocities occuring in relation to it.

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Hopeless hyperbole deserves sarcastic satire.

[Patchuli]

17. I do. Wish I could stop it.

:cry:

[Hekate]

18. What was it Paula Abdul did again? nt

[LWolf]

20. Yes, I care.

I care, and cared, enough to support candidates that actually oppose war.

I care enough to have marched, demonstrated, emailed, faxed, and snail-mailed communication to that effect for more than 5 years now.

[Stinky The Clown]

22. I used to post the number daily ......

..... but no one seems to give a shit.