After putting in $4 a gallon gas in my tank, I know why it's happening.

[Cleita]

First we get President Chimpy whining about why we are paying this. It's because they can't drill for oil in ANWR sez he. Then today, Senator "wide stance" Larry Craig is bloviating on the Senate floor about mapping our national oil reserves and of course that includes ANWR.

This is what they are doing, putting a chokehold on on us to get us to agree to drilling in ANWR. Why aren't Chimp/Cheney already impeached and Larry Craig forced to resign? Because the oil cartel is keeping them in office so they can drill in ANWR or so it seems to me. But whom am I but an old widow on a fixed income whose budget allows only for $40 gas a month no matter what it costs?

[Hydra]

1. ANWR certainly has them drooling

Consider all the other little deposits on National Forest land and other places.

Bushco wants full access to all resources, and they want us to pay to extract them.

Isn't that just great?

[Systematic Chaos]

3. Just one problem:

Combined, all those sites wouldn't keep us powered for more than another couple years.

When in doubt, erect a bigger stone head. :grr:

[Hydra]

4. You think this has to do with fixing the problem?!?

It's all about free money and exemption from laws. That's all Bushco was ever about.

[Systematic Chaos]

15. Oh, no. Not at all. I'm way too aware of Peak Oil to believe that.

And yes, I completely agree with you on that score.

Our problems ain't gonna be fixed very easily at all at this point. :(

[Hydra]

23. Sure they are

Who's telling us that things will be difficult and there will be sacrifice...hell, who "admitted" to peak oil?

CHENEY

Believe him at your peril.

There are easy ways out of this- they just don't jive with what the PNACers want to do.

[nichomachus]

7. But, you're missing the point

It's not about "keeping us supplied" or even getting oil prices down. They're just trying to steal as much as they can before next January.

[lonestarnot]

9. weeeeener! ding ding ding weeeeener

[Systematic Chaos]

16. Believe me, I know.

Just thought I'd point out that in the end it won't matter either way unless you're a member of the BFEE. :(

[KansDem]

10. "Combined, all those sites wouldn't keep us powered for more than another couple years."

I wonder if it isn't so much about the oil as it is other natural resources. I thought I read the last time we went through this about ANWR having potential mineral wealth, but would have to be strip-mined. I wondered at the time if strip-mining ANWR would be more palatable to the American people if we were already drilling for oil there.

I think it's all about getting their foot in the door...

Check out this DU thread from 2005:
What In The Fuck Is It About ANWAR?

[Subdivisions]

17. That's right, a couple years. But BILLIONS of dollars for Big Oil. n/t

[bdamomma]

2. so this filthy regime we have wants us to keep the oil industry

flowing and it will continue to fleece Americans. Alternative fuel options can be instituted they (this Congress) just does not want them. Keep on injecting that oil in our veins is what they are telling us, and forget about the environment and keep on giving billions of money to those oil companies. Disgusting, that we have reached this low standard of life no thanks to Bush, and Reagan. The rich are just getting richer, again this is a class war.

[stellanoir]

5. (((((((((((((( Cleita ))))))))))))))))))

I agree with you as always, but far beyond ANWR, they're doing it simply because they think they can.

The truth will come out in the end I swear.

Hang in there dear.

We're all gonna have to support each other for a while.

:hug:

[Cleita]

6. Hi Stella!

:hi:

[Cleita]

8. Gas was as low as $1.26 a gallon before the Iraqi invasion.

Now it's at $4 a gallon. Woohoo! Those windfall profits at the expense of us and our expendable children being used for cannon fodder. I'm so proud of my country today. :sarcasm:

[ThomWV]

11. Next will be the North Carolina and Florida coasts.

[Cleita]

12. They are talking about that too in the Senate.

God I hate these filthy oil people. I wish we could outlaw petroleum use in the whole USA as a safety hazzard. Then people would have to look at alternate energy and those oil cartel moguls would be put out of business, here in the USA anyway.

[Cleita]

13. The push is on for drilling in ANWR. Right now

Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska on the Senate floor making a case for it. I'm thoroughly disgusted with our Democrats for even going along with this charade.

[bikebloke]

18. Isn't the ANWR oil already earmarked for sale to Asia?

Not a drop will reach the lower-48. Or so I read somewhere a while back. The greedy bad guys are pulling a bait & switch to fill their own pockets.

[Cleita]

21. To them it doesn't make a difference.

It's important for this purpose to make us complain about the price of gas to our elected representatives as an arm twister to make them vote for drilling not only in ANWR but other disputed oil fields in the lower 48 as well. It aids their purpose. Where the oil is sold after that is irrelevant to them. They can still lower the price per barrel then. And that means they could do it today. All these gas shortages going back to the 1970's have always appeared as shameless manipulation to me from the oil cartels.

[formercia]

14. Like Poppy in Nicaragua

Attack the civilian population hoping they will overthrow the government to make it stop.

It's called collective punishment.

[yardwork]

19. Very good point.

k&r

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. I think it's time to mandate minimum fuel efficiency in all new vehicles

2010 models must at least meet an average 40 mpg efficiency and raise it up to 50 mpg in 2015. If any new vehicles don't meet that standard, slap a $10,000 tax penalty on it at sale and fund alternative energy or mass transit with it. If it means that you have to pay through the nose to buy an SUV to haul a soccer team around, you have to pay extra for that privilege, as your taste in cars is harming everyone else. If we could cut fuel consumption in half by the types of cars we drive, it would be better for everyone.

[Arctic Dave]

22. Your right. If they wanted to put more oil in the

Trans Alaska Pipeline they could more aggresively develop the NPR-A. It is about five times the size of ANWR. Or they could step up the development of the other sattelite fields around Prudhoe Bay and Kuparuk.