I heard Palfrey with my own ears tell

[Subdivisions]

an Austin radio host that if she is ever found dead, it wasn't suicide and that she would never do that.

Debra Jean Palfrey was murdered.

[seemslikeadream]

1. I heard that also

[Subdivisions]

2. I'm so angry I'm shaking right now and having

heard it from her own mouth is scary as hell.

[seemslikeadream]

13. She was used and then spit out

and thrown in the garbage

[Binka]

70. She Hung Herself?

Women don't usually kill themselves that way. Hmmm.

Self-poisoning is the method employed in 70 percent of all suicide attempts by women.

[Subdivisions]

73. She was found by her MOTHER hanging from a beam in a

storage shed adjacent to her mother's home, which is in a trailer park. Maybe somebody saw something, like either her going into the shed alone or strangers in the neighborhood, etc.

[REP]

91. No - She HANGED Herself

Sorry - listening to too much bad usage on the TeeVee to control myself.

[fascisthunter]

100. Can You Track Down a Clip

Where did you hear her say that?

[TheWatcher]

110. Sadly there are links that can be posted to exactly where

But they aren't allowed on DU, because we must be kept safe from Conspiracy Terrorists.

Come to think of it, I don't think it will be very long before that's exactly the term used to describe anyone who says, thinks or does ANYTHING that is even a millimeter outside of safe, comfortable, accepted thought or paradigm.

[Pharaoh]

3. who is she?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. The DC Madam.

She procured prostitutes for prominent men like Sen. Vitter, among others.

[lapfog_1]

14. Rumors are (were) that there were plenty of

folks in the administration also implicated. High up in the administration.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

17. And the higher up they are, the weirder the shit they are into.

It's like a direct correlation.

[smoogatz]

21. Wasn't Vitter into diapers?

It doesn't get a whole lot weirder than that, does it?

[slowry]

63. Do you really want to know the answer to that :| ? n/t

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

93. Remember that guy found in a latex wetsuit with a dildo up his ass

who accidentally suffocated (I believe, I might be be getting some stories mixed up)? I think that surpasses diapers.

[smoogatz]

102. That Baptist preacher former Falwell associate guy?

Yep. You make a good point. "Bring out the gimp!"

[Ellen Forradalom]

108. You'd be amazed. n/t

[lapfog_1]

29. Think "Eyes Wide Shut" stuff...

rituals and stuff...

complete with dead prostitutes who may have talked too much.

[smoogatz]

18. The rumor was that Cheney was among her clients.

So, of course she's dead.

[nichomachus]

Dick Cheney would never do anything like that

He has "people" who will do it for him.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Mrs. Cheney was a client. Hmmmm. She would definitely do that.

[YOY]

37. DCRumors tell that Mr. Cheney likes his hookers.

No shock.

[SpiralHawk]

52. That's Senator 'Diaper-Sex, Family Values' Vitter (R)

R R R - republicons. Ptooey.

[Subdivisions]

7. The DC Madame. Joins another woman in this case

who have "committed suicide".

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. Whoa.

:wow:

I hope she passed what she knew onto someone.

[Subdivisions]

9. Larry Flynt. (No, I'm not kidding.) and I think someone else

whom she did not name.

[melody]

30. Flynt has enough on everyone to protect himself for years to come

With orders to "print on death".

Nothing will ever again happen to Flynt so yes, I'd guess he's the one.

[seemslikeadream]

11. Here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mz5tjfZi6g

[cynatnite]

22. Well, that was a waste of time...

I thought it was her saying she'd never commit suicide if she was ever found dead.

[seemslikeadream]

26. There is a link to that but I l can't find an acceptable one YET

I was answering his specific question. His question was

I hope she passed what she knew onto someone.

[bananas]

79. The comments on that youtube are interesting

For example this one:

drain12 (48 minutes ago)
This is obviously a murder. Type in "Brandy Britton" on google - she was a former employee of the D.C Madam, and incredibly brilliant. And the bazaar thing is that she too died the same way as the D.C. Madam. And think about this too, woman aren't likely to commit suicide this way. They're more likely to commit suicide by overdosing on sleeping pills, bleeding to death or carbon minoxide intake. Hanging themselves and suffocating themselves to death is pretty damn painful i would imagine.

So I googled and the first hit:

Brandy Britton Found Dead in Her Baltimore Home
By David Lohr
February 6, 2007

BALTIMORE, MD. (Crime Library) —"Alexis is sophisticated, refined, educated and articulate. She has two Bachelor's of Science degrees, one in biology and the other in sociology. She also holds a Ph.D. from an elite university and continues to work part-time in her discipline. Professional clients often say that they enjoy talking with Alexis and that her intelligence, creativity and energy enhances their experiences." This is the description of Alexis Angel that appeared on her Internet website, AlexisAngel.com (now offline).

What most people did not know was that Alexis Angel was actually 43-year-old Brandy Britton, a former sociology and anthropology professor at the University of Maryland. Britton was, according to her website, "a very passionate full-service, GFE (girl friend experience) escort and erotic masseuse."

<snip>

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0207/0601_brandy_britton.html

[janetle]

87. Yes, I have read that as well---women don't hang or shoot

themselves to commit suicide. They take pills and I doubt she'd want her Mom to find her.

Of course, I have no idea but this story stuck me odd today.

[cynatnite]

98. Not true...

Women do hang themselves...just not as often as men.

http://www.suicide.org/suicide-statistics.html

Statistics are about half-way down the page.

[orleans]

24. giving her list to a "responsible media outlet": abc

yeah, they really did a good job didn't they?

[malaise]

32. I hope someone else other than ABC has that list

Free up the list.

[Judi Lynn]

49. Wow! She really had too much faith in ABC, didn't she? My God.

Well, they surely dropped the ball. Hope they're proud of themselves.

Maybe they can turn that information over to someone who will use it to get an idea of which one in her records has the most to lose.

Thanks, seemslikeadream.

[KoKo]

67. It's very sad...she defended herself in the end, I believe. And,

those who used her services except for a few will never be exposed. Even Larry Flint isn't gonna mess with this...or he would have by now.

[Uncle Joe]

5. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Texas Explorer.

[lpbk2713]

8. This story is getting more interesting by the minute.

[bdamomma]

10. Palfrey had too much information and they had to silence her.

we are dealing with Criminals here.

there are many of us who are not ignorant and do question this mysterious death. Suicide yea sure it is:puke:

[OhioChick]

12. Seems obvious that

"Someone" didn't want her talking.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. As I said on another thread, I heard her say on a live broadcast that she would never

be a suicide.

[seemslikeadream]

16. DC Madam Jeane Palfrey supplied sex workers to hundreds of the nations elites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZ8F9VC0h0

[defendandprotect]

80. So 20/20 had a kind of list . . . telphone numbers .. . and he says

people high up in the "Bush administration" . . . !!

[AspenRose]

19. I don't believe it was suicide.

Foul play, for sure.

[Subdivisions]

23. Notice how, in the TV reports, that they're already

declaring it a suicide and "no foul play" seems to have taken place? No time for an official investigation. No announcement of an investigation once suicide is declared as the cause of death. No follow-up on the fact that she has made statesments that if she were found dead that it wouldn't be from suicide. Nevermind that at least one US Senator has already peed his diaper over the revelations of Ms. Palfrey. And nevermind the unconstitutional treatment of her from the very first day her properties were raided.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. lol! Like Kennedy's assassination, the news report might have been sent overseas before they even

found her.

[defendandprotect]

81. "Suicided" is certainly part of our vocabulary now . . .

[seemslikeadream]

20. I will bring every last one of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZ8F9VC0h0

[defendandprotect]

82. If she tried to leave any videos or other forms of testimony behind . . .

she may have been tortured . . . ???

I wonder if she made any specific comments on the Brandy Britton "suicide" . . . ????

[Zywiec]

27. Did she say this after knowing she faced 55 years in prison?

When exactly did she say this?

[monmouth]

55 years was the "max" she could have received. However,

lawyer people said they doubted she would serve a day. I'll try and find that statement. I noticed it because this doesn't compute, she was murdered.

[cynatnite]

38. You're assuming she was murdered...

More information needs to be released before anyone can make a reasonable judgment...no matter what she said previously.

[defendandprotect]

83. No -- we aren't wearing dunce caps ---

[Cleita]

28. If there is anything out there that can verify this

like a YouTube link or something, maybe we should pressure the local police there to investigate this by sending them the link. I think too many crimes by this government are going unpunished because the professionals make them look like suicides or natural causes.

[seemslikeadream]

31. There is a link but it is unacceptable here at DU

[Subdivisions]

34. Why are those links not allowed considering we discuss

the same or similar topics here on DU all the time?

[cynatnite]

41. The one that got your previous thread locked...

is because he's considered a conspiracy theorist and his content isn't allowed here at DU for that reason.

[Subdivisions]

36. Do you have the direct link to the transcript or podcast where

Palfrey says it's not suicide? If, as clieta suggested, could you PM it to us? I don't have the direct link yet and am still looking on that site.

[seemslikeadream]

58. Not yet but I am going to post some of her statements

[Subdivisions]

33. I'm looking for an alternate link. I'm also going to try to find the

transcript, if there is one, from that show. It had to be from around last August or September because I was still in my former residence before moving to where I am now. I'll keep looking and, if I have to, I'll contact that radio host myself to get it.

[Cleita]

35. Don't put it up here because it appears it's forbidden at DU.

You could PM me though.

[Zywiec]

40. So it was before she knew she would be convicted and face 55 years in prison.

I'm sure that wouldn't have changed any of her thinking.

:eyes:

[Subdivisions]

42. No need for rolling eyes. Apparently you've already decided

there's no foul play in this case. So why waste you time rolling your eyes at me and move onto something else?

Oh BTW, CNN is now saying that she "may have, repeat, may have comitted suicide". We'll see.

[Richard Steele]

105. And you've completed a thorough, professional investigation of her death, have you?

That was fast. :eyes:

[khaos]

124. assuming everyone thinks like you?

suicide just isn't an option for a lot of people regardless of the circumstances.. that's me assuming everyone thinks like I do

[info being]

118. Haha...the local police investigating the CIA?

You're kidding, right?

[Cleita]

119. Actually, no, I'm not kidding.

Some authoritive body is going to have to start standing up to the criminal corruption at higher levels or we as a great nation are doomed.

[LeftHander]

39. If she had info and was afraid for her life....

She would of left behind a package to appear at her death...hopefully it goes to several newspapers.

[Subdivisions]

44. According to CNN, she was found in a shed on relatives property?

Did anyone else get that? Did I hear that correctly?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

61. She gave lists to ABC News when the story broke and you know what they did with it.....

[Subdivisions]

85. What did they do with it? n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

96. Nothing.

[defendandprotect]

84. Or, they found it before they killed her . . .

and whether or not her body shows signs of torture would be interesting to know --- !!!

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. I heard it too.....

The tape of it can be viewed on the internet.

[Subdivisions]

45. Thank you. I especially remember it because I made

a mental note to myself to remember that should she ever turn up dead.

Scary shite.

[seemslikeadream]

46. here's one link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey

She wrote in August 1991 following an attempt to bring her to trial,"If taken into custody, my physical safety and most probably my very life would be jeopardized, rape, beating, maiming, disfigurement and more than likely murder disguised in the form of just another jailhouse accident or suicide would await me," said Palfrey in a handwritten letter to the judge accusing the San Diego police vice squad of having a vendetta against her.<9>

"No I'm not planning to commit suicide," Palfrey told The Alex Jones Show on her last appearance, "I'm planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government," she said.<10>

[defendandprotect]

86. Wow . . . !!!! But . .. 1991? How long has this been going on?

[Freddie Stubbs]

47. Looks like her chickens. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .have come home to roost!

I'm sure that Rev. Wright would agree.

[Name removed]

48. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[seemslikeadream]

50. last July I put my house on the market

So maybe you were planning to leave the "mafia" No one leaves the mafia


from a interview with Deborah


I wired money to Germany, next day Sept 29 feds went to warp mode two postal inspectors calling my realtor. They didn't tell the truth said they were buyers for the house

[Subdivisions]

53. delete

[OmahaBlueDog]

51. I can only hope there's a safe deposit box and a journalist who has the key

I'm not buying this suicide crap for one minute

[Uncle Joe]

59. I hope she distributed multiple copies. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

69. The BIGGEST "tell" was that the initial interview the Police just held with the press:

Think about this FIRST efforts for law enforcement to provide feedback? The Police Spokesman blurted out toward the end of the Q & A: "There's MANY victims after a suicide." :wow: HELLO?!? The forensic evidence has not even been properly tagged and filed at the labs, MUCH LESS analyzed and the Police Spokesman didn't even attempt to correct himself for the mere appearance of non-bias. He said *SUICIDE.*

Damn, I fear for my beloved nation if we don't elect MORE legislators with intact moral compasses. :shrug:

[ruby slippers]

112. maybe she mailed something to the press and it is still in transit...

[seemslikeadream]

54. ALL HER PROPERTY WAS CONFISCATED

BY THE FEDS


THIS WAS NOT A TAX EVASION CASE

[Junkdrawer]

55. BREAKING: Palfrey suicide note released:

[seemslikeadream]

56. ..

:thumbsup:

[Ichingcarpenter]

57. Good One.... I think he got all of her files before she "committed" self murder

Cheney must have them in his man size safe.

[Cleita]

62. LOL! Good one. n/t

[KamaAina]

64. Special Visual Achievement award!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[janetle]

89. Oh MY!!

[blondeatlast]

60. I'm alarmed at how quickly the "suicide" angle was thrown out and saluted. No tin-wearer here,

but c'mon, people.

DC
Madam.


Suicide?!

[ruby slippers]

113. so, which is it? Bush Body Count or Clinton Body Count list?

[Matariki]

65. Yeah. I heard that too.

Our nation is insane. Our media is insane. Well, complicit anyway.

[Subdivisions]

72. I've been sent an actual 1-hour segment, by a fellow DUer, and

I am currently listening to it. So far, I believe it is the same interview to which I referred in my OP.

I can't post the link here, against DU rules to post anything from this particular radio host. Which I think is complete bullshit. But I digress.

[ShortnFiery]

66. Yes, like my suspicions of the deaths of James Hatfield & Hunter S. Thompson ... Palfrey's demise

is just "a little too convenient" for the elites who RULE our nation's political/financial power structures.

We'll never get "the truth" from the M$M corporate whores, but I concur - Palfrey was "suicided," i.e., murder made to APPEAR as a suicide.

What a shame that SOME of us assholes within the chattering classes of Tweety's feared "Pajama Hudeen" will not just STFU and accept what we have been told. :crazy:


Damn us little peons of the net roots! :evilgrin:

[Binka]

68. David Kelly Anyone?

Good read here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=397256&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source

[ShortnFiery]

71. Perhaps Tony Blair, et. al., are enjoying an *Opus Dei* thanks to Kelly's early demise.

:evilgrin: :nuke:

[defendandprotect]

88. Danny Cassalaro ... and so many more ---

and, probably many unknown to us ...

[Subdivisions]

74. She was said to be determined to take some people down

with her and was writing a book about the whole thing. Don't forget, it was federal agents that raided and confiscated everything despite the alleged crime being the jurisdiction of the state where the alleged crimes occured.

[Subdivisions]

75. slad, I've PMed you a link to the interview I referred to in the OP.

I see if I can capture the part where she says she'd not commit suicide and post it to my own image and video server for others to hear. In the rest of this interview, which I am listening to now, she lays out the whole case from her point of view and is the most comprehensive version of the case I've heard to date.

[defendandprotect]

76. Wonder who was interested in her not talking . . . ???

[Subdivisions]

77. deborahjeanepalfrey.com

deborahjeanepalfrey.com is off line until further notice.

[Subdivisions]

78. Archives

http://web.archive.org/web/20070303073227/http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20070311210020/http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/index.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070315064432/www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/Jeane3.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070318022313/www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/Jeane5.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070311234349/www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/download/smokinggun1.pdf

http://web.archive.org/web/20070430000138/www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/download/lawsuit

[defendandprotect]

92. Reminder that this also tracks back to the Randy "Duke" Cunningham scandal . . .

and doesn't it somehow also criss-cross something that Sibel Edmonds has knowledge of ...????

[Subdivisions]

94. Crazy, ain't it? n/t

[orleans]

103. 2nd, 3rd & 6th don't work. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

90. She has filed legal papers stateing that she had though about suicide

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0501081palfrey1.html

[Subdivisions]

95. Posted here also:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3232943

[Ichingcarpenter]

106. This a bullshit Federal slant and you know it.. from 17 years ago

That is your answer to every post.

She said that she wasn't going down alone and would take
cabinet heads down with her.

[seemslikeadream]

97. interview

http://freepress.org/radio/theprogressiverevolution/theprogressiverevolutionjune252007.mp3

[lonestarnot]

99. It has to still exist then.

[fascisthunter]

101. I Hope Everything She Knew Comes out Despite This

[Richard Steele]

104. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know this "suicide" was a murder. K&R

[donheld]

107. No suprise at all

I will always believe it was murder.

[TheWatcher]

109. I heard the exact same show you did.

And I completely concur.

She was murdered.

[ruby slippers]

111. continue with your speculations at this link.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5776154&mesg_id=5777082

[jonnyra]

114. She provided hookers to DC power brokers

And we are supposed to believe this was a suicide? Yeah right. Just another typical assassination to prevent bad news from getting out. Happens all the time in America...no shocker. I think it was Stalin who is quoted with the saying " No man, no problem". In this case no woman no problem. So sad.

[Eurobabe]

115. Whole things stinks to high heavens

I think she was murdered too.

[bklyncowgirl]

116. I predict an episode of "Law and Order"--at the very least.

Yes it sounds suspicious as hell--and very convenient for someone.

[leftynyc]

117. Was this before or after she was

convicted of several felonies and was looking a jail term?

[Subdivisions]

120. Did you not read this and related threads? If you did, you

wouldn't need to ask that question.

[leftynyc]

121. Yes, I read the threads

but considering the uproar over the fake Kantor stuff, I'm not sure what to believe anymore. I know if I was suddenly looking at a prison sentence, I'd consider taking that way out.

[Subdivisions]

122. But in coming to that conclusion, you discount other things

she had going for her and that her sentence was not likely to amount to a long time in prison. Meahwhile she was writing a book that is just the type of book that ends up selling like hotcakes and she stood to make millions that would be waiting for her after her time in prison. And there are other things to consider, some of which have already been touched upon in this and related threads.

[leftynyc]

123. I'm pretty sure there is a law

about not being able to benefit from a crime through a book. And I've also read she stated she'd rather die than go back to prison.