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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:51 PM
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You Folks Won't Believe This: (Right-wing theory on the economy)
Good grief I was just on a site where a bunch of right wingers post and guess what they are blaming our declining dollar value and soaring food prices on?

"Al Gore and all the liberals who pushed global warming fear mongering." What they are saying is that because of all this global warming fear mongering we are burning corn as a cleaner fuel and that is causing food prices and everything else to soar through the roof.

Oh Gawd these people give me a headache. :eyes:
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:55 PM
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1. Sooooo many errors
Edited on Fri May-02-08 09:07 PM by Juche
Food prices are going up from declining USD values, higher fuel prices and growing global demand mostly, not ethanol.

Bush was the one who pushed the 2005 energy bill that increased ethanol production. It passed a GOP congress.

The dollar value is down due to the trade deficit.


Jesus. What happened to the rational right wing who understood the issues? Why are today's right wingers almost always misinformed whenever they express an opinion whether it be taxes, healthcare, foreign policy, terrorism, global warming, consumer prices, or anything else? Its almost always false when they say something anymore. WTF went wrong with our political education and dialogue? Where are the informed right wingers?
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:58 PM
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2. Our annual budget & current account deficits are approaching 1.2 trillion a year.
Bushitler will leave office adding 8 trillion dollars to the twin deficits, but deficits don't matter according to Cheney.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:21 PM
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7. Let's just come right out and say it. Today's right wingers are fucktarded assclowns.
These aren't your parent's conservatives. Today's right wingers don't know shit about shit, they think every aspect of life has to be one big goddamned bar fight, they're racists and authoritarians, warhawks and chickenshits at the same time and worst of all, just plain brick-wall-in-the-middle-of-a-field USELESS.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:58 PM
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3. They are Full of Shit.... They Peddle Whatever Lie They Think They Can
to fool folks. To you and I it looks stupid and desperate, but to them it's calculated, dishonest and worthy of a trip to the wood shed. They know they peddle shit and should be called out for it.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:06 PM
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4. Ethanol has nothing to do with the economy tanking or the current food crisis
Edited on Fri May-02-08 09:07 PM by Paint It Black
Rather, it has everything to do with climate change (drought) and the decline in the US dollar. These Big Oil neocons would love nothing better than to go back to dirtier energy simply because it's easier, consequences be damned.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:29 PM
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9. I wouldn't go that far
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/050308dnint.2b964f9.html

But De Schutter (U.N. Human Rights Council independent expert on the right to food) said these measures "should not blind us to the fact that this crisis has structural causes on which we should act" immediately.

First, he said, "it is irresponsible to continue pursuing in such a blind fashion our bio-energy policies."

De Schutter called for an immediate freeze on new investments on turning corn, wheat, and other food crops into fuel for cars and trucks.

"And we should discuss in an open and transparent manner whether the current levels of production of bio-diesel, bio-ethanol, which are not so bio, should continue," he said.

or this:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/ethanol-part-of-food-crisis--says-durbin-2008-04-28.html

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Monday that U.S. ethanol policies may be partly to blame for a global food crisis threatening to leave millions hungry.

“I’ve supported ethanol from the beginning. The object of having homegrown fuel in America is a good goal, and it’s one we’re moving toward ever so slowly,” he said. “But we have to understand it’s had an impact on food prices. Even in the Corn Belt, we’d better be honest about it.”

Agriculture lobbyists say climbing oil and gas prices are more to blame for rising commodity prices. But because of biofuel mandates included in the 2005 energy bill, about one-third of the U.S. corn crop is expected to go toward ethanol production in the coming year.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:08 PM
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5. Fear mongering? Isn't that a Repuke tradition?
Those bastards wrote the book................
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:20 PM
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6. they want half the world to die
and they hate anyone trying to stop it. We are trying to save the people that they want to starve out. If the entire continent of Africa died off they would not shed a tear. Probably have a party.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:23 PM
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8. Take an Advil.
Former US Vice President Al Gore spoke in Argentina aboutthe pros and cons of biofuels as a means to combat global climate change. Gore was talking to representatives of the biofuel industry in a Buenos Aires hotel. He warned that the drive to produce alternative fuels must not create new forms of environmental damage. Recently, it has become more clear that in many cases biodiesel is produced in an unsustainable way. Especially in Indonesia and Malaysia, oil palm plantations have caused massive deforestation. The government is encouraging more forest clearing to meet the growing demand for palm oil.
http://www.energyportal.eu/news/biomass/al-gore-warns-against-negative-effects-of-biofuels.html

Speaking in Argentina yesterday, Gore, whose global warming documentary An Inconvenient Truth won an Academy Award this year, said: "Every potential solution much be handled carefully and the danger with biofuels is that extremely valuable forests will be destroyed unnecessarily. "Another danger is that, if it is not pursued carefully, it will drive food prices up." US President George Bush has announced that he intends to reduce gasoline consumption by 20% in 2017. This would require 35 billion gallons of alternative fuels to replace fossil fuels.

http://progressivesforgore.blogspot.com/2007/05/gore-warns-of-biofuel-dangers-in.html
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:37 PM
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10. Those Damn Libruls!
First they make it hard for the oil companies to make money, by getting all pissy about smoke belching out of my big SUV, which I need to keep all the criminals away from me, pullin' my boat for fishin' to put food on the table, and for huntin' purposes. Then they come up with this global warming theory that says warm weather is bad, unless you are a Librul para-sailin' and laying out on a beach. My Prezident says it's hogwash and won't buy into it, so that's good enough for me. After all, he would know since him and the Vice Prezident were in the oil business and they have college degrees. You ain't a pullin' the wool over my eyes, you damn Libruls!

Then all these damn Libruls start committing treason, by saying the War On Terror is wrong, and make things harder for us in Iraq, which causes my cheap gasoline the war promised, to shoot through the roof. At the same time, the rest of the world sees the good ole' USA divided and not finishing off the evil muslim fascists in Iraq, so the value of my dollars drop, which only makes my gas even more expensive.

If those damn Libruls would have only had faith in the Prezident, the USA, and God, we would all be livin' high on the hog by now. But no, just like Nam, those damn Libruls have gotten us in to a helluva mess again, with all of their fear mongerin' and lies. Those damn Libruls have put this country in a world of hurt for years to come.

:sarcasm:

How dumb is America? How many of those idiots actually believe that shit?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:52 PM
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11. Total bullshit!
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