Yikes! Today's Sunday paper jobs section

[Crazy Dave]

Only a page and a half and that was mostly taken up by large ads for schools offering training as medical assistants, truck drivers and massage therapists.

Another article in the same paper says adults will be taking most teenager's summer jobs this year.

Not in a recession yet? :shrug:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

1. But we supposedly still need thousands more H1b visas. nt

[DJ13]

3. Those H1b workers are getting hired by the state unemployment office

:shrug:

[liberalmuse]

2. My sister is regional manager at her job...

but she's working part time at Starbucks to make ends meet. Thanks, Bush. At this point, I just want to slap the shit out of anyone who voted for him.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. I have to restrain myself from running idiots with "W" stickers off the road.

Unbelievable that people still display them, but I probably see 2 or 3 daily.

[flamin lib]

8. Print up some stickers to put over them that read:

"How's that W thing workin' out for ya'?"

[mrreowwr_kittty]

9. Good idea! nt

[Deja Q]

26. Play GTA3, drink some booze, and that may no longer be a problem.

/irony


:sarcasm:

Well, partial sarcasm -- I do NOT condone running anybody over. Booze in moderation and NOT driving afterward is okay. :)

[HughBeaumont]

33. Come up to Ohio.

You'll find no shortage here of shit-stupid idiots who still proudly display their W-astikas on their cars.

[mucifer]

4. once a dem is in the white house they will call it a recession

[Crazy Dave]

5. And the war will become the dems too

I can already hear Limbaugh and O'reilly. "We need to bring our troops home now!"

[jwirr]

17. I think you are right that they will try to blame us for the whole mess

but that also means that we are the ones with the solutions. Our new leader should act immediately on these issues doing as much as he/she can.

For instance, the WH should ask Sen. Chris Dodd and Robert Byrd to draft a bill restoring our constitution for him to sign as soon as it is passed. Enlist the help of experts both in and outside of government to address the problems. I have read a lot about the great depression and one of the fatal mistakes hoover made was failing to recognize the extent of the problem and thus failing to address it. We will not waste time arguing who is to blame - we will address the problems that face us immediately.

[flamin lib]

7. I'm working part time graveyard shift at a convenience store.

Not exactly where I thought I'd be with two master's degrees and 25 years experience in executive level sales negotiating multi-million dollar deals with international companies but it brings in about a grand a month. I gotta tell ya' once the hair goes grey you're suddenly not very popular with potential employers.

I interviewed for a part time warehouse job. 30 hours a week but it had benefits. More than 100 applications for one position.

Recession? Naaaaa, it's all my fault and I've got to take personal responsibility for it.

[Crazy Dave]

10. Good luck to you

I feel your pain. I've recently had to dumb down my resume and lie about my salary history. Several job prospects went from a very enthusiastic, "Oh sir! Can you please email or fax your resume right away?" to me calling them a day or two days later to follow up and getting a very cold, "Yeah, we got your resume and we'll call you if we need you."

[bean fidhleir]

12. "once the hair goes grey"

Truer words were never spoken. Age discrimination is vicious.

But that's The Miracle Of Capitalism at work!

[Crazy Dave]

16. Sounds silly but...

One potential employer recently told me that he pays his top CAD people what I made as an entry level CAD tech in 1995. I don't think they want too many of us older and more experienced folks telling their current workers about the good pay, decent hours and great medical benefits we use to have as little as ten years ago.

[Nay]

24. Isn't that the truth?? Combine that attitude with the expectation that

you have to work until you're 68 or 70 to even get full SS benefits, and you'll see the big-ass trap they've laid for the boomers. Can't get a job after 45, required to work until 68. Jesus. It's a nightmare.

[tridim]

11. Why would anyone want to learn to drive a truck these days?

[Crazy Dave]

15. It's a dream they're selling and their only priority....

...is getting people to sign up for those loans. I've known lots of people over the years who got suckered into these schools with lots of advertising and even though others and myself advise these people different, the school salesmen make their story sound better.
The students then spend tens of thousands of dollars and after graduation they find out the school's "job placement program" is only the school giving them a job agency's phone number, and they consider themselves lucky if they can find a job making $8 an hour, not even doing what they trained for.
I personally know three people who fell for the truck driving school thing. Two were lucky enough to get their old jobs back where they worked before and the third was making $350 a week driving a truck locally last I heard.

[Deja Q]

25. Those job placement programs are a joke. Also,

when contacting a diploma mill school about a graphic design program, a MSM site discussed the future of the careers of the sort the school was selling. Having asked about those particular qualifications, I got no response. (before that it was the coordinator e-mailing me once every 2 weeks asking how things were going and how they could be of help.)

[Pineywoods Sam]

13. I live in a town of 100,000

Our paper use to have six or seven pages of houses for sale almost eveyday. Today there are twelve. Not pages -- but ads. Not even one page.

[seasat]

14. There's a little known stat called index of help wanted ads in newspapers

You can clearly see how Shrub Inc has ruined the job market. Now maybe this statistic is over emphasizing the situation since internet sites are now taking up some of the business in posting help wanted ads. However I don't think it's too far off. It tends to track the civilian labor force participation rate over the Shubbite's tenure.

[nashville_brook]

23. look at the first graph -- when dems took office vs when PUKEs took office

and, according to this chart you can't blame it all on 911 -- the drop started in late 2000 to mid 2001, and THEN went farther down.

where'd all the jobs go?

[seasat]

34. Wonder why you never see these two graphs on MSM?

It's not that they wouldn't make sense it's because they make too much sense. It would spoil their illusion of everything not being as bad in the economy.

[Richard Steele]

31. Wow. Talk about a picture worth a thousand words! nm

[stewie502]

18. yup were in recession...

but us teens need those jobs to pay off the massive debt Bush created for us LOL....wait thats actully not funny, yippe I get to pay for college AND the recession checks when i'm older oh crap...

[eppur_se_muova]

27. Welcome to DU! Make sure you have a Dem in the WH for the next 8 yr, anyway! nt

[reformedrethug]

19. Interesting

because in the past 2 weeks I have received 2 emails unsolicited and 4 calls about positions I applied for and I am working right now. Yes things are tight right now but not impossible.

[Digit]

28. You must be younger than some of us

I am over 50 and have a helluva time finding jobs.
Right now, I am employed, but it is RETAIL for crying out loud.

But I am lucky to even HAVE a job.
Thanks *, for sucking the life out of millions of Americans.

[Crazy Dave]

35. Or willing to work longer hours for less wages and no benefits

Or work as an independent contractor.

That's been my observation.

[Crazy Dave]

36. It took longer than I expected...

But I was wondering how long it would take for the "I'm doing good therefore the rest of the country is doing good" post to show up.

Anyone wanting to work longer hours for less wages and no benefits or work as an independent contractor do find jobs easier and there's some trades like nursing and collection agents are in high demand but we're talking about the entire US job market as a whole. Not one or two specific trades and not just "you" if you were paying attention. One person working doesn't sustain an economy, it takes millions of people working to do so therefore it's silly for one individual to think that just because he's working that things aren't that bad for the rest of the country. It's the same short sightedness they have in Washington. How many manufacturing or just everyday average jobs are in your area and how are the wages? You didn't feel like sharing that.

[latebloomer]

20. in all fairness

Yes, the job market sucks, BUT many more jobs are advertised only online than was true in the past.

[XOKCowboy]

30. Good point.. Newspapers are dinosaurs

I got my last job from a newspaper ad but that was 20 yrs ago. Today I wouldn't even bother buying a paper if I was job hunting.

[happydreams]

21. join the army!!

:sarcasm:

[w8liftinglady]

22. no shit...my 18 year-old STILL hasn't found a job...

and he's trying!

[Lugnut]

29. The ads in my local paper are pathetic.

Kelly Services had an ad in today's paper for production workers. They're paying a whopping $8.00 to $8.15 an hour. :wtf:

[KillCapitalism]

32. I see the same jobs advertised in my paper.

Ads for collectors and commission-only salespeople are quite numerous too.