Cheney flips out on CNN over his lesbian daughter Mary

[RedEarth]

It appears the Cheneys are still trying to cram their pregnant lesbian daughter Mary back into the closet. Now the former gay activist, former head of Cheney's re-election campaign, former openly-gay gay-liaison for a major American corporation, is no longer so gay. Now her homosexuality is a no-no, a thing not to be discussed, even when the top allies of the vice president, allies that he outright wooed for six years, attacks his former head of his campaign, and his future grandkid.

From CNN's transcript of today's interview:
Q We're out of time, but a couple of issues I want to raise with you. Your daughter Mary, she's pregnant. All of us are happy. She's going to have a baby. You're going to have another grandchild. Some of the -- some critics, though, are suggesting, for example, a statement from someone representing Focus on the Family:

"Mary Cheney's pregnancy raises the question of what's best for children. Just because it's possible to conceive a child outside of the relationship of a married mother and father, doesn't mean it's best for the child."

Do you want to respond to that?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No, I don't.

Q She's obviously a good daughter --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I'm delighted -- I'm delighted I'm about to have a sixth grandchild, Wolf, and obviously think the world of both of my daughters and all of my grandchildren. And I think, frankly, you're out of line with that question.

Q I think all of us appreciate --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I think you're out of -- I think you're out of line with that question.

Q -- your daughter. We like your daughters. Believe me, I'm very, very sympathetic to Liz and to Mary. I like them both. That was just a question that's come up and it's a responsible, fair question.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I just fundamentally disagree with your perspective.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/01/cheney-flips-out-on-cnn-over-his.html

[lancdem]

1. Not that it's relevant

but I didn't know Liz Cheney and her husband had five kids.

[tblue]

3. Yeah. Where have they been hiding the other 3?

[Mind_your_head]

5. Five GRANDkids and 1 more on the way

Mary, and her female partner are expecting.

The Cheney's have 2 daughters.

[orleans]

33. yeah, she's a real breeder all right.

she mates with phillip perry who is a lockheed lobbyist


see her profile here
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/?sort=title_tagline
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/3376

[w4rma]

2. That may be the first answer, to a question, from Cheney that I've ever agreed with.

Cheney "fundamentally disagrees" with the "perspective" that "Mary Cheney's pregnancy raises the question of what's best for children." Cheney "fundamentally disagrees" with the "perspective" that "just because it's possible to conceive a child outside of the relationship of a married mother and father, doesn't mean it's best for the child."

Cheney is "delighted {he's} about to have a sixth grandchild … and obviously think the world of both of my daughters and all of my grandchildren."

[tblue]

7. If the question had been asked of any Dem, Ch*ney would've been all for it. Screw him.

And I'm not exactly wild about Mary, even if she is a lesbian.

[w4rma]

8. This is quite likely the first time I've agreed with him. This helps a little against bigotry. (nt)

[tblue]

36. Okay. But that was not his intention.

He just didn't like the audacity of Wolfie asking him a question he didn't tell him to ask.

[smtpgirl]

13. Neither am I

[smtpgirl]

12. Why is Mary Cheney and her father exempt from this kind of

questioning?

They put it out there in 2004?

I am gay and personally know of 5 lesbian couples that have children that don't have fathers.

All of their children will be great!!

And yes, all of the children have a male influence in their lives.

The caveat is when a relationship sours, as most do, what do we do with the children? This is more common in heterosexual relationships, I might add.

I have found that lesbian couples have well-grounded children.

It takes a village, remember?

[bananarepublican]

23. Perhaps a better question would have concerned his five deferments! The gutless pr*ck!!

And given his own military background, "Would he encourage any family member to fight in Iraq?".

[LittleClarkie]

30. He approximates a human being when he talks about his daughter

It's his one good point.

[mondo joe]

4. That fucking pig makes me want to puke.

How can "what's best for children" be used against gays BY HIS OWN PARTY yet be out of line when it comes to his family?

Wait, that's not the real question. The real question is why am I even surprised?

[Rose Siding]

6. Wolf's face was already on the Cheney family's dart board. Remember-

Lynn asked him if he wants the US to win.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oWcymCbSKqc

[PinkTiger]

9. Don't we all wish that Clinton had told the press the same thing

When they were asking about Monica?

[mitchum]

22. But did Clinton run on an anti-fellatio platform?

THAT'S the difference

[Mind_your_head]

10. Once again, "the Imperial Court" - b*sh, Cheney, and selected elite others

don't/can't be expected to live by the same rules or 'social order' that THEY want to impose upon other people. As a matter of fact, DON'T EVEN ASK/TALK ABOUT IT....it's 'different' for them. Why? It just 'is'. :sarcasm:

The hypocrisy is stunning.

Don't misunderstand me, children need a loving home. I don't care if it's mom/dad, mom/mom, dad/dad, or three men and a baby! I object to the hypocrisy of holding out one standard for other people (and holding them back, which this administration has done) and then turn around and 'it be okay' for someone in their own family. Simply stunning and repugnant.

[smtpgirl]

14. We are in the class/caste system

where we don't "question" their morals, when all of us are not of their "class/caste".

What bullshit.

I'll just bet that all of his grandkids are little whining monsters.

I personally know a few. My sister has 3 kids, 18, 15 & 6 and they have their moments, but my sister's kids are well-grounded & well-behaved. I am not partial.

[Mind_your_head]

15. Well, Blitzer was 'right' to question this and 'force it home'

I hope he (and others) continue to question this stuff. We don't live in a caste/class system - and let's not let it become one - if we QUESTION and not let one group of people live by one set of rules, while everyone else must live by another.

Kudos to Mr. Blitzer today! Keep it up Wolfie and you may just win back your respectability! :-)

on edit: added a word for clarity

[smtpgirl]

16. I think we do, the haves/the have nots

We do live in a class/caste system

Kind of like India, but with little whispers

Blue Collar
White Collar
non-skilled workers
skilled workers
Upper Class
Upper Middle-Class
Lower Middle-Class
Poor

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Caste systems are traditional, hereditary systems of social stratification, enforced by law or common practice, based on classifications such as occupation, race, ethnicity, etc.


Social class refers to the hierarchical distinctions between individuals or groups in societies or cultures. Anthropologists, historians and sociologists identify class as universal, although what determines class will vary widely from one society to another. Even within a society, different people or groups may have very different ideas about what makes one "high" or "low" in the hierarchy.


United States

Class in the US, featuring occupational descriptions by Thompson & Hickey as well as US Census Bureau data pertaining to personal income and educational attainment for those age 25 or older.<6><8><4>Main article: Social structure of the United States
The social structure of the United States is a vaguely defined concept which includes several commonly used term that use educational attainment, income and occupational prestige as the main determinants of class. While it is possible to create dozens of social classes within the confines of American society, most Americans employ a six or five class system. The most commonly applied class concepts used in regards to contemporary American society are:<6>

Upper class; Those with great influence, wealth and prestige. Members of this group tend to act as the grand-conceptualizers and have tremendous influence of the nation's insititutions.
Upper middle class; The upper middle class consists of white collar professionals with advanced post-secondary educational degrees and comfortable personal incomes.

Upper middle class professionals have large amounts of autonomy in the workplace and therefore enjoy high job statisfaction.


Middle-middle class; White collar workers such nurses and school teachers who are still among the 27% of the population who have a college degree, but often lack graduate degrees and high personal incomes are members of this class. Households in this class may need two income eaners to make ends meet and therefore may have household incomes rivaling the personal incomes of upper middle class professionals such a attorneys.

Lower middle class; Sometimes used as a synonym for Working class, this particular class consists largely of pink collar and clerical workers who lack a college degree but may have some college education. Out-sourcing tends to be a prominent problem among those in this class who often suffer from a lack of job security.

Working class; According to some experts such Micheal Zweig, this class may constitute the majority of Americans and include those ofterwise refered to as lower middle.<11> It includes blue as well as white collar workers who have relatively low personal incomes and lack college degrees with many being among the 45% of Americans who have never attended college.

Lower class; This class includes the poor, alienated and marginalized members of society. While most individuals in this class work, they commonly dirft in and out of poverty throught the year.

[smtpgirl]

18. Dick Cheney's class, that's why he was peeved at Wolf

Oh, yeah, we live in a class/caste system

Upper class;

Those with great influence, wealth and prestige. Members of this group tend to act as the grand-conceptualizers and have tremendous influence of the nation's insititutions.

[Cha]

11. So all the Dems have to say to

woofie is "You're outta line with that question, blizter"..end of story?

What will "focus on the family" think? :wow:

cheney's such a fucking hypocrital snarlass.

[Canuckistanian]

17. He LOVES the fundie support...

...but hates their opinion of his daughter.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Dead-eye...

[smtpgirl]

19. So why did Wolf get a set of cajones, he has shilled

for the Repubs ever since time?

[smtpgirl]

20. The Dead-Eye train is coming to an end

Thank Gawd

[mitchum]

21. Fuck him and his Professional Lesbian daughter...

and the rest of the goddamn Cheneys.
If there is possibly any family more loathsome than the Bushes, it's the fucking Cheneys

[Synnical]

24. The Repukes like it both ways

I can question you, but don't question me.

So sad, so sorry. Doesn't work that way now the the Dems control Congress.

Chaney needs to resign, now. Asshole. Hypocrite.

[cynatnite]

25. Question was out of line...

As much as I despise Darth Cheney the question should never have been asked. If it had been a dem rather than Darth Cheney, DU would be up in arms over it.

Blitzer was wrong to bring this subject up.

[w4rma]

32. No. The question, itself, was very pertient. The view that the Focus in the Family holds is

"out of line".

[Jack Rabbit]

26. Would Cheney have thought Jerry Flatworld out of line with that question?

If Cheney weren't the second ranking official in a notoriously homophobic regime, the question would not have been asked or it would definitely be out of line.

If Mr. Cheney has an opinion on gay rights that differs from that of the regime as a whole, he should express it now and perhaps that question would indeed be out of line.

For what it's worth, I am gald that Mr. Cheney is looking forward to being a grandfather to Mary's child and that he is protective of her. It's about the only time I see any human warmth in the man.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

27. Wolfie is not a nice man!!!! nt.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. Did you notice the daggers Cheney was throwing at Wolf? OMG...if looks could kill

Leslie would dead right now. After Wolf asked that question and Cheney told him he was out of line...the daggers were flying! He looked so EVIL. Did anyone else notice that? If CNN plays the interview again make sure you keep an eye on that. It will send chills down your spine.

[Jeanette in FL]

34. I wondered what was said after the tape stopped rolling

Yes, I saw it. It was pure evil in Cheney's eyes. He could barely concentrate on the next question Wolf asked him about sitting next to Pelosi.

I think Wolf knew he was going to getting the scolding once the tape stopped so he quickly tried to take it in another direction. But the damaged had been done. Wolf will not be doing anymore interviews of Cheney at the Whitehouse anytime soon. That is my bet.

[Swamp Rat]

29. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! CANNIBALS!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Hatalles]

31. Blitzer should have asked...

"Is Focus on the Family out of line w/ that statement?"

[blogslut]

35. It was a "gotcha" kind of question

I do believe that the V.P.'s stance on Gay/Lesbian issues is relevant. Yet, I would have phrased the question differently.

I would have gone all Diane Sawyer:

"How does it make you feel when those that you thought supported you, instead, condemn you personally? Recently, Focus on the Family said this about your daughter and your family:

(quote of hate-filled FOF crap about Mary)

"Does it hurt you, Mr. Vice President?"
</Diane> }(

Looks to me that when Wolf Blitzer holds a grudge, that sentiment brings out the shark. Leslie didn't like it when Lynne Cheney went off on him in their previous interview.