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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:47 PM
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An absolute MUST LISTEN: This American Life discusses how the housing crisis arose.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 06:47 PM by BrklynLiberal
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=355

355: The Giant Pool of Money


A special program about the housing crisis. We explain it all to you. What does the housing crisis have to do with the collapse of the investment bank Bear Stearns? Why did banks make half-million dollar loans to people without jobs or income? And why is everyone talking so much about the 1930s? It all comes back to the Giant Pool of Money.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:51 PM
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1. I heard a condensed version of it on friday during the afternoon, learned something new.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:56 PM
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2. I listened to that yesterday - I was shocked at the arrogance of those writing the bad paper
I am still in a state of shock after listening to that yesterday.

Guys making $75,000/month and living like a "B" actor on all the "lists" at clubs & restaurants. All this from selling mortgages that used FAULTY ratings data - mortgages were resold as "AAA" rated which is as good as a government bond, but the system used to come up with the ratings was faulty and used outdated data.

My only solace was when the dude who was raking in the cake selling bad paper said he was likely going to lose his house. GOOD!

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:02 PM
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5. Yeah, I'm definitely not wasting any sympathy on him.
It's striking how young a lot of these mortgage brokers and investors were. I remember being struck at that a few years ago. It seemed I was meeting so many young men (early to mid 20s) who were getting into this "house flipping" thing. The young bartender guy who was recruited into selling those mortgages gave some good insight into why people like him were chosen. They didn't have enough life experience to see the long term consequences of their actions.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:10 PM
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6. ...& they had nothing to lose at their age
"young people are our future"

I hope they all aren't this lacking... :spank:
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:49 PM
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8. Youth and inexperience are one thing, but the real culprits are-
The Federal Reserve...for lax monetary policy (in hopes of having the housing sector spur the economy)
Wall Street...for their greed in green-lighting a mind-bending expansion of exotic products (esp. in subprime and Alt-A)
Bond Rating Firms...who were asleep at the switch and consistently mis-rated CDO's and MBS's as 'investment grade'
Lenders...for responding to Wall Streets open floodgate by reducing underwriting standards to a cursory overview
Investors...for using the lenders easy money to play a risky game of speculation in real estate
Borrowers...many buyers lied about their income, job history, and intent to occupy the property (Lenders turned a blind eye to this as well)

Now what we're seeing is the corporate giants cornering the mortgage market.
In many cases, these are the same companies that are responsible for the foreclosure spike and liquidity crisis.
These are some major league crooks.
Countrywide...with all their bad press, it's painfully obvious they're a rotten outfit.

A couple of weeks ago as internal memo from Chase was made public.
The memo was called "Zippy Cheats and Tricks" and it was created to show employees how to 'game the system' to get Fannie Mae approvals.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:56 PM
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3. Thanks, I'm downloading it now.
This American Life's free weekly downloads are a great resource for those who don't get a chance to hear the show when it's broadcast; thanks for telling me about this one.

I go through my phases where a month or two might pass between sharing time with Ira Glass, but I never regret taking the time to listen when I do.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:56 PM
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4. Thanks for the link. I listened to the program yesterday and was blown away.
It's all so basic, and yet so many people got sucked into something that made no logical sense.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:12 PM
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7. the first "crime of the century."
what a huge criminal enterprise and no one will be held accountable....
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:33 PM
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9. Yes...that may be the most disturbing part of this entire story.
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:44 PM
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10. It's not up now
maybe later it will be. I love Ira's shows. They are so well done. I missed that one, I try to always listen to him. All his shows are worth a listen. Thanks for the heads up on this, will go back later to see if it is up.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:32 PM
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11. Thanks for the reminder
I too heard the brief excerpt on Friday, and wanted to hear the whole thing, but forgot.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:33 PM
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12. The link is not working for me, I can only listen to the free promo
or buy the CD??? Will check again later.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:33 AM
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14. Try downloading the mp3
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:32 AM
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15. That link works for me as well, thank you! Listening now. n/t
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:40 PM
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13. It's the Deregulation, Stupid
Commentary: Democrats from Carter to Clinton helped roll back the government's regulatory power, but as the economic crisis deepens, "regulation" is no longer such a dirty word.

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/03/deregulation-economic-crisis.html
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:56 AM
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17. From your link and thanks for posting...
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s106-900


"...The Glass-Steagall Act was, in fact, a primary target of the Clinton-era deregulation effort. An early piece of New Deal-era legislation, the act was passed in response to speculation and manipulation of the markets by huge banking firms, which most liberal economists believed had brought on the crash of 1929. Glass-Steagall imposed firewalls between commercial banking and investment banking, and between the banking, brokerage, and insurance industries. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks lobbying and campaign contributions, "Eager to create financial supermarkets that peddle everything from checking accounts to auto insurance, the three industries for years have lobbied Congress to streamline regulatory hurdles that bar such operations...

Despite Bill Clinton's announcement that "the era of big government is over," it took the better part of his administration for him to push these initiatives through Congress. In 1999, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, always a good friend to Wall Street, finally brokered a deal between the administration and Congress that allowed banking deregulation to move forward. Shortly after the compromise was reached, Rubin took a top position at Citigroup, which went on to embark upon mergers that would have been rendered illegal under Glass-Steagall. As the New York Times put it, Rubin would be leading "what has become the first true American financial conglomerate since the Depression"—a conglomerate that could exist only because of legislation he had just shepherded through Congress.

Passage of the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 was celebrated in a Wall Street Journal editorial as an end to "unfair" restrictions imposed on banks during the Great Depression, under the headline "Finally, 1929 Begins to Fade." But Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman, writing in Mother Jones, warned that the legislation, which amounted to the "finance industry's deregulatory wish list," would "pave the way for a new round of record-shattering financial industry mergers, dangerously concentrating political and economic power."
Mokhiber and Weissman also predicted that such mergers would eventually "create too-big-to-fail institutions that are someday likely to drain the public treasury as taxpayers bail out imperiled financial giants to protect the stability of the nation's banking system."


...As these new financial giants go into freefall, a little regulation once again sounds like a good idea, just as it did in 1933. But increased regulation will never come willingly from the Federal Reserve, an "independent entity" that is answerable to no one, and has always operated largely in the interests of the big banks that make up its membership and provide its funding. Under two decades of leadership by the notorious anti-regulator Alan Greenspan, the Fed took a hands-off approach, preferring to set "guidelines" for the financial industry rather than enforce rules. In December 2007, the New York Times compiled a rundown of the multiple warnings and pleas made to Greenspan, over a period of at least seven years, to address the dangers posed by subprime lending—all of them, of course, rebuffed by the man who still claims he couldn't have predicted that the housing bubble would someday burst. The Fed's approach is unlikely to change much now—at least, not without a fight..."


Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s106-900




Oct.-Nov. 1999

Congress passes Financial Services Modernization Act


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html


"After 12 attempts in 25 years, Congress finally repeals Glass-Steagall, rewarding financial companies for more than 20 years and $300 million worth of lobbying efforts. Supporters hail the change as the long-overdue demise of a Depression-era relic.

On Oct. 21, with the House-Senate conference committee deadlocked after marathon negotiations, the main sticking point is partisan bickering over the bill's effect on the Community Reinvestment Act, which sets rules for lending to poor communities. Sandy Weill calls President Clinton in the evening to try to break the deadlock after Senator Phil Gramm, chairman of the Banking Committee, warned Citigroup lobbyist Roger Levy that Weill has to get White House moving on the bill or he would shut down the House-Senate conference. Serious negotiations resume, and a deal is announced at 2:45 a.m. on Oct. 22. Whether Weill made any difference in precipitating a deal is unclear.

On Oct. 22, Weill and John Reed issue a statement congratulating Congress and President Clinton, including 19 administration officials and lawmakers by name. The House and Senate approve a final version of the bill on Nov. 4, and Clinton signs it into law later that month.

Just days after the administration (including the Treasury Department) agrees to support the repeal, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, the former co-chairman of a major Wall Street investment bank, Goldman Sachs, raises eyebrows by accepting a top job at Citigroup as Weill's chief lieutenant. The previous year, Weill had called Secretary Rubin to give him advance notice of the upcoming merger announcement. When Weill told Rubin he had some important news, the secretary reportedly quipped, "You're buying the government?"








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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:30 AM
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16. Thank you and I agree that this is a must listen to program for
people who care about how their tax dollars are being spent.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:47 PM
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18. Kick n/t
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