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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:42 AM
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McCain makes another major gaffe that is ignored, of course (on eminent domain)
from dailykos:

BREAKING: McCain Loses Bearings in Speech on Constitution; Campaign Covers Up Error
by NWTerriD

...
A few minutes after I tuned in, they started showing McCain's speech at Wake Forest University last week, which I figured was suitably boring, and had the advantage of being too annoying for me to watch or listen to very intently; after several months of Obama's speeches, I can barely tolerate McCain speaking.

But since it was on a subject that I'm familiar with and somewhat interested in, I kept one ear tuned in. One ear was just barely enough; if I'd been paying any less attention, I might have missed John's Big Boo-Boo -- and it really is a big one. Follow below the fold for the latest reason this man should not be elected president.

But then he started getting into the substance of his speech -- basically that judges have become too activist. A few minutes into his discussion of this topic, this is what I thought I heard:

The year 2005 also brought the case of Susette Kelo before the Supreme Court. Here was a woman whose home was taken from her because the local government and a few big corporations had designs of their own on the land, and she was getting in the way. There is hardly a clearer principle in all the Constitution than the right of private property. There is a very clear standard in the Constitution requiring not only just compensation in the use of eminent domain, but also that private property may NOT be taken for "public use." But apparently that standard has been "evolving" too.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/12/05425/2994/579/514017

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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:09 AM
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1. Give the guy a break, he is 71 years old and his memory if failing
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:24 AM
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2. "...a subject that I'm familiar with and somewhat interested in..."?
I request an Eminent Domain primer, please!

Seriously, it would be nice to know what McCain is mumbling about and what his GOP masters are going to screw up next.

Thank you.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:29 AM
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3. I think they have been fighting about this one for a long time.
It seems to be what land you want and what land you own on who is right in this one. I goes on every place and more than one thinks. I re-call my father being in a big fight with a city over it. He lost the lot and building but finally got the price he wanted after some one in the city said (in a letter) he could not re-build the same building on another lot he owned for the price the city was giving him. The property was going for a city parking lot. First it all went to a rich man in town and the to the city and then to a parking lot. So the rich man made the money selling the land to the city and it ended up my father was the only one that really made what his part was worth. The land was 'needed' by the city. My father was sort of sad no one got much for their building but him, but he took the money.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:43 AM
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4. The irony of the situation is
that the eminent domain issue in the Kelo vs New London case arose out of the doings of Connecticut's former conservative Republican governor John Rowland. He was the one that spearheaded the idea of taking those properties for Pfizer.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:32 PM
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13. I can believe it as in my father's case it was the city govt.
And of course the man who was the in-between was very friendly with them all. Greed is often behind it.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:57 AM
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5. Ah, eminent domain is the taking by the government of private
property for public use with just compensation given to the landowner.

There was a recent case where a city took private property and turned it over to a private developer. I believe the Supreme Court decided that was ok.

This man isn't very smart, is he.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:22 AM
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7. Case history here in North Dakota..
http://www.court.state.nd.us/court/opinions/950328.htm
The man lost his grocery store to eminent domain. His competitor built his new store on the land.


www.ndaco.org/pdf/upload/2005Resolutions.pdf
Section 2005-9 Property Condemnation


Google search link
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jamestown+grocery+store+eminent+domain&btnG=Search
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:09 AM
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6. As Kos & the comments there noted: The COVERUP is more
disturbing than the gaffe. YES grandpa is losing it, and when he screws up I'll say so.. But note how quickly all the records were changed.. the concerted effort to "disappear" the mistake, erase it, make it an "un-gaffe". .

Sorry.. that's very bad. Mistakes made are just going to have to hang out there while WE decide if they're worth commenting on.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:27 AM
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12. I know, if he had just misspoke
there wouldn't be such a big rush to clean up the record, I bet.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:32 AM
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8. I'd like to see Obama debate McCain on this
Obama would have to do it carefully, showing respect for McCain and not sounding arrogant, and at the same time destroying him.

I don't know Obama's position on Kelo, however.

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Useful Idiot Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:03 AM
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9. Well Obama says he has visited "57 states so far"....
Edited on Mon May-12-08 08:05 AM by Useful Idiot
with "one left to go" is that any better or any worse???



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:24 AM
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10. better
Obama obviously knows how many states there are.

Not sure about McCain's knowledge of the Constitution. He certainly doesn't know as much as Barack there.
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Useful Idiot Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:38 AM
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11. he sure does!
He knows of at least 7 more than I do!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:10 PM
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14. Ciao ciao!
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

:hi:

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