Fred Phelps Upgraded

[Turbineguy]

The analysts at Turbineguy have issued an upgrade for Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Mob.

Previous rating: Lower than Whale Shit.

New rating: Whale Shit.

This after the group showed up to demonstrate at the Pig-Farm in Crawford TX on account of what's-her-name's wedding.

[madinmaryland]

1. He did show up in Crawford.

:rofl:

An equal opportunity hater!!!!

[Buzz Clik]

2. Sorry, folks, but I don't hate the Bush girls

Showing up to protest Jenna's wedding still makes Phelps lower than whale shit.

[blondeatlast]

11. Indeed. There is no way for that lout to earn penance, no way in Hell--

and I'm sure Satan can't wait to get his hands on Phelps...

[Buzz Clik]

3. Sorry, folks, but I don't hate the Bush girls

Showing up to protest Jenna's wedding still makes Phelps lower than whale shit.

[Ian David]

4. Do you have a link? n/t

[Turbineguy]

6. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3270624

[Ian David]

7. I'm ignoring the author of that thread. What does he/she link to? n/t

[Turbineguy]

9. Look for picture number 20:

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Jenna-Bush-White-House-President-George-W-Bush-Crawford2C-Texas-first-lady-Laura-Bush/ss/events/us/042408jennabush/s:/ap/jenna_bush_wedding/im:/080511/482/d28f280dce4e45d0bb46733c9ac15efc#photoViewer=/080511/photos_ts/2008_05_11t003318_450x321_us_bush_wedding

[blondeatlast]

10. No active link there--here's the pic, though; yep, the Westboro Thugs appear to be there.

"Properties" indicates it was taken at the Bush wedding but I don't know the source.

Wow--I never knew anyone who had that DUer on "ignore" before. :shrug:

[Ian David]

13. Source is Reuters. n/t

[Ian David]

5. There's nothing about it in the media, or even of the Phelps website. n/t

[Ghost in the Machine]

8. Read this, then downgrade him again...

"PSYCHOTIC FRED PHELPS FAMILY EXPOSED"

Snippets:

When her father was beating someone and screaming at the top of his lungs, frequently Margie would take her terrified younger brothers and sisters away for several hours. When they thought it was over, they'd come back like cautious house cats, sneaking in softly, Margie on point, to see if the coast was clear. The boys tell how one day their father was in a barbershop and noticed the leather strap used to sharpen razors. It struck his fancy as a backup to the mattock handle, so he had one custom-made at a leatherworker's shop near Lane and Huntoon.

"It was about two feet long and four inches wide. It left oval circles- red, yellow, and blue," says Mark. "Usually the circles would be where it would snap the tip-on the outside of your right leg and hip...because he was righthanded." According to Mark and Nate, their father wore out several of the leathermaker's straps while they were growing up. As Mark Phelps became the angel-appointed in Fred's family cult, Nate was assigned the role of sinner. For Mark, his brother was the needed scapegoat. For the rest of the family, Nate was a problem child, the delinquent of the brood. Brilliant like his dad (Nate's IQ has been measured at 150), the middle son followed another drummer from the time he was a toddler. When he was five, he remembers his father telling him, 'I'm going to keep a special eye on you'. The regular beatings started shortly thereafter.

Nate endured literally hundreds of such brutalities before walking out at one minute after midnight on his eighteenth birthday. His siblings both inside and outside the church agree that Nate got the lion's share of the 'discipline'. "Nate was a very tough kid," says Mark. "I don't know how he endured it, but he did. He'd get 40 blows at a time from the mattock handle. He was just tougher than the rest of us and my father adjusted for that."

Today, raising his family in California, Nate is a devout Christian and a warm, friendly, considerate, mountain of a man. But at 6'4" and 280 pounds, it would be...instructive...to see father and son in the same room today with one mattock stick between them. "I sensed early on this man had no love for us," says Nate. "He was using us. I knew it. And I always made sure he knew I did."

http://www.congressunderfire.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=109&topic_id=54&mesg_id=54&page=

[blondeatlast]

12. There's no "upgrade" for Phelps and I can't see any penance

he could perform to redeem himself.

That story is jaw-dropping and needs LOTS more exposure; how much have we heard about Obama's pastor but how little about the Christian Identity sickos?

[bunkerbuster1]

14. "this is DELICIOUS barbeque, Senator!"

"May I have some more? I'll bring you some doughnuts, with sprinkles!"

That's why you haven't heard more about the Christian Identity sickos. Corporate media treaks McCain with kid gloves, and they're not looking to root out serious analogs to the Rev. Wright media jerk-off.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. Only one problem with that plan

Phelps is not only a registered Dem, but he was a big fund raiser for Gore.

So he is ours. Unfortunately.

[blondeatlast]

19. There's plenty of loathesome types on our side. I don't think raising money for

Dems redeems anyone any more than doing the same for Republicans.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. No it doesn't but he will be labeled as a Dem if he becomes a hot topic

The local Kansas blogs have played this game for years now. We Dems know better than to bring him up and criticize him, as the right wingers remind us every time that he belongs to us.

There is a picture of him and Gore too. They post it over and over and over.

[blondeatlast]

24. I hadn't considered that--and of course they will.

The press totally ignores the relationships of McCain to the likes of Rev. Moon, Hagee, and Dobson; but just like the Rev. Wright dustup, would love to embarass us with this.

I hope some of our best and brightest can prepare for this ahead of time.

[LTR]

25. The only reason he's a Democrat is to piss people off

Especially us.

He ain't no fucking Democrat.

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. Yes he is a registered Democrat

I won't pretend to be able to read his mind and guess why he is a Democrat but I doubt it's because he wanted to piss people off.

[LTR]

27. Yeah, he may be registered, but...

...he ain't no Democrat.

And he obviously does stuff to piss people off.

George Wallace and Strom Thurmond were Democrats at one time, but not the type of Democrats we think of.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. He also used to send his kids out to sell candy door to door

in all kinds of weather. Lots of people who live in Topeka remember the Phelps as the candy selling kids.

There is a book that was written about them and this passage you posted may be from that book. A reporter for the Topeka paper wrote it and then got into a dispute with the newspaper as to where the sales for the book would go - to the reporter or to the newspaper. It was only when court testimony became public info that any of us got to read it. To my knowledge, the book was never published. But it was online for years and that's where I read it.

[blondeatlast]

17. Some relatives told me about that; They told us they found them

a little creepy but couldn't say just why.

That may be the reason that I simply refuse to purchase anything from kids sent door-to-door to sell anything and have always refused to allow my son to do it for school projects, etc.

That book you are talking about may be one of the sources of the snippet in Ghost in the Machine's post upthread. I haven't read the whole thing yet, but what a horror from the little bit I read.

[Ghost in the Machine]

21. I read about that also. Here's the lawsuit you mentioned...

On June 29, 1994 Jon Michael Bell, a former reporter hired to investigate Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist Church by Stauffer Communications, Inc.,filed a lawsuit in Shawnee County District Court in Topeka, Kansas against Stauffer Communications alleging the Topeka Capital-Journal owed him compensation for overtime and to clarify ownership of his notes and work product. The work product in question, "Addicted to Hate" chronicling the life and times of Fred Phelps, was attached to the lawsuit as Exhibit A making it, therefore, a public document. Learning of the suit, members of Topeka's anti-Phelps underground delivered a certified copy of the lawsuit to a copy shop near the courthouse.


Within 48 hours, Stauffer Communications had written all area media outlets and issued veiled warnings about using the information contained in "Addicted to Hate". A rival Topeka newspaper, the Metro News, announced it was considering publishing the lawsuit in it entirety. The Kansas City Star abided by Stauffer Communication's wishes, but several other media outlets aired or printed portions of the manuscript. Within 48 hours of the filing, Stauffer Communications persuaded a judge to seal the suit so the Clerk of the District Court could no longer make copies for the public. No matter - no such order was issued to the copy shop or to the hundreds of citizens that already had copies.


On July 8 the Capital-Journal, which had deep-sixed the Phelps project and fired the publisher who authorized it when it was completed last fall, suddenly began its watered-down, copyrighted series on Phelps that they had earlier claimed they wouldn't print. Bell also withdrew his suit the same day. By this time, however, TV networks, wire services, and eastern newspapers had obtained copies of the manuscript, and Stauffer's unprecedented attempt to suppress media discussion of the document attracted the interest of several major East Coast newspapers on First Amendment grounds.


Phelps, a self-proclaimed advocate of the First Amendment, whose 'free speech activities include libel, slander defamation of character, intimidation, obscene language, battery, promptly denounced Stauffer Communications and denied the allegations of child abuse, spouse abuse, and other illegal activities. Anyone familiar with Phelps and his children who remain loyal to him, however, can clearly see these adult children and his wife suffer from the grotesque and obvious behaviors symptomatic of severe, long-term abuse. Where and how the twisted saga of Fred Phelps will end is anyone's guess.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michael_haggerty/expose3.htm

[LeftinOH]

18. Considering their "reasons" for protesting in Crawford- it doesn't redeem them

at all.

[blondeatlast]

20. Exactly.

:thumbsup:

[Buns_of_Fire]

23. Nah. STILL lower than whale shit.

Protests at funerals. Protests at weddings. Protests at deaths. Probably protests at births. I don't think he's protested at any Dairy Queen Grand Openings yet, but give him time -- he'll get around to it.

Phred has only one direction to go, and it sure ain't up.