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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:53 AM
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How much milage would the GOP get if they set out to impeach Bush
and Cheney?

Been reading through how badly they are doing in the various special elections and what it portends for November - and contrasting that with our seemingly endless ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

So I have to wonder, especially given Chimp and Cheney's stellar approval numbers (along with Congress) - if they pushed for an impeachment and repudiation of BushCo - could they possibly redeem themselves with their base? Especially with Rep "off the table" in charge on our side of the aisle?

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:55 AM
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1. I think it would be huge for them, which is the reason the Dem
leadership isn't impeaching. As long as B*sh is there Dem's will continue to win big.
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:56 AM
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2. That would be the most genius political move ever...
which is why it's something they're not capable of.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:22 PM
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13. It would be brilliant
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:27 PM by verges
and possibly also a good thing. I don't think it would effect the WH battle. But, it would certainly bolster any Repub Congresscritter who participated. The Expected Dem majority in November would probably shrink to about what it is now. The good part (maybe) is that it just might end a LOT of partisan bickering and enable our legislators to actually work together for awhile and accomplish SOMETHING!! That is also another reason why it won't happen.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:57 AM
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3. If they could regain control of both Houses of Congress, yeah, they'd
Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:58 AM by no_hypocrisy
impeach him before the dems ended their debate about impeachment.

Talk about a real dilemma for Karl Rove!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:57 AM
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4. Betcha some rethugs are asking that same question.
I'm sure of it.

But it's too late. A year ago, it might have made a difference, but not now. The die is cast, IMO.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:58 AM
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5. You'll NEVER KNOW! Because they would NEVER do that to
one of their own! Hell, look at how they welcomed Vitter back into the fold, and begrudgingly ignored Craig!!! Even now, the DOJ is ignoring congressional requests to enforce subpoenas.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:59 AM
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6. None
Americans are finished with Bush Inc. When a relationship is over...it is over.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:03 PM
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7. Zero.
Way too late. Had the GOP been smart enough to read the obvious writing on the wall a year or two ago, they could have pressured BushCo into resigning, with the threat of supporting a Dem impeachment bid as leverage.

Had they done so, they could be campaigning right now on the idea that they'd put country before their own party by ousting two of their own.

If they even hinted at it now, it would be seen for what it is: utter political desperation.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:08 PM
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8. The Day After The November Elections
As expected many GOOPers have been coddling to the right wing for money and life support and it's getting to be a bigger and bigger liability, but it's a bed they've made and it's hard for them to get up from. With the lack of RCCC money, a lot will be depending on the RNC and the affiliated 527s to help...and with it comes the chain to Huggy Bear and the booosh regime/legacy. Some may play concern troll or even buck some party votes, but for now they need the national party as their sole lifeline and they're all gonna go down together. Moderates have been backbenched and the more skittish they get, the more emboldened the wingnuts do.

The only thing that will change that is a disatrous loss in November...then watch the knives come out and the blame game to get intense. The rubble will be fought over by those moderates who survive (and there won't be many) against an even harder core wingnut faction that will attempt to deny away the election (like they did with 2006). We caught a taste of that infighting during their primaries...if Huggy Bear loses and many others go down with him, the bloodletting and soul searching will be long and intense. The ultimate loser with be georgie booooosh jr. All sides will point to him as the ultimate reason they lost and that criticism will ramp up as the manchild's days of squatting in the oval office count down.

Remember, any indictment against anyone in this regime will be met with a pardon on 1/20/09...and I'm sure his assholiness will try to extend his immunity to cover his tracks. Our job...and one I know many of us are chomping at the bits to do...is to make this election a total GOOP nightmare and then use majorities in the House and Senate along with the power of the Executive to demand accountability for years of neglect and crimes.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:09 PM
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9. Let's hope they don't think of it
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:10 PM by magellan
It'd restore their base's trust in them and make the spineless Dems look very, very bad indeed.

As I've been saying since Pelosi took impeachment off the table for "lack of votes", it wouldn't matter if this particular instance succeeds or not. It's the deed that counts...and the simple satisfaction of seeing universally hated individuals being publicly excoriated by their own party would fire up the right's base in a positive way.

Meanwhile, people like me would be grumbling "Why the hell didn't the DEMS do that?"

edited to add 'by their own party'.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:04 AM
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14. I guess that's where my head is right now - when the American Conservative
is printing articles about why Obama would be a better choice to get back to "traditional" conservative values vs McSame and knowing how most of us here are pissed that Congress didn't do what we sent them back to do in 2006 - I think they could paint the Dems as too cowardly to push for the rule of law and make it a more successful campaign issue than anything else that they could come up with now.

Or maybe I'm just wishful thinking that anyone would put Cheney under impeachment so that Shrub couldn't pardon him - to see him sweat out his last months in office - and go back to his hidden bunker rather than take the chance that they'd be waiting to arrest him on the Inaugural stage in January...

Hell, I've wished for a lot of things from our "representatives" that they don't do, if I'm going to indulge in fantasy land, may as well go for the brass ring...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:11 PM
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10. Too late. nt
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:15 PM
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11. None
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:16 PM
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12. I might vote for whomever decided justice was the most important thing.
If Someone of any Party decided to follow the Rule of Law (Constitution) I would pay attention. I am an Independent and not stuck on any Party in particular and Democrats could easily lose me if they continue on as they have the last eight years..Their only saving grace IMO is the Republicans are so very much worse.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:15 AM
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15. I'm sure he gave a few blowjobs while he was in the White House. They could use that.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 06:16 AM by Perry Logan
With Repubs, it would have to be a sexual thing. They would never impeach someone for little things like treason, incompetence, torture, war crimes, etc.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:15 AM
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16. Well, since they OWN the media, they COULD pull it off
Edited on Thu May-15-08 06:16 AM by Canuckistanian
It would be a stretch, but I believe they could do it.

Hey, if they can rig elections, start wars, violate the Bill of Rights, and rob the Treasury without a peep from the CM, they could accomplish a mere impeachment with ease. They've done it before.

It all depends on the spin.

But would it help their chances in November?

Not a chance in Hell. Therefore it won't happen.
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