Anti-choice group wants to end all legal access to birth control...

[cynatnite]

In recent years, some anti-abortion advocates have turned their attention to birth control -- not as a means to reduce unplanned pregnancies, but as another target of protest.

One of the most fervent anti-contraception crusaders is Pro-Life Wisconsin, which believes virtually all forms of birth control can cause a "chemical abortion" by preventing an already fertilized egg from implanting in the uterine wall.

The Brookfield-based group, along with the American Life League and Pharmacists for Life International associate groups, will take their protest to the streets June 7 with prayer vigils staged at family clinics around the country and state.

In Dane County, a prayer vigil will be held at 10 a.m. at the Planned Parenthood clinic on Orin Road in Madison, following Mass at Holy Redeemer Catholic Church, 120 W. Johnson St., at 8 a.m.

The protests, under the banner of "Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies!" are timed to coincide with the 43rd anniversary of the landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision Griswold vs. Connecticut that established the right to birth control for married couples.

http://www.madison.com/tct/news//index.php?ntid=286148

[muntrv]

1. If the fundies have their way, birth control is another racket for the mob to get into.

[matt007]

22. Well said

I agree. You push something into the shadows and the Mob gets it. Back Alley abortions, forced prostitution .......it only goes down hill.

I'd rather a National Health Service give easy access clean abortions as opposed to the Vice squad tracking down women who get them performed.

[zanne]

2. They miss the good ole' days...

When women didn't have a choice and couldn't have sex until they were married.

[saigon68]

7. As long as the Priests have sex with boys

there will be no "unwanted" pregnancies

[likesmountains 52]

3. Are these the "personhood" people?

[cynatnite]

4. The 'fetus is a person' people are out of Colorado...

These people are from Wisconsin.

[mtf80123]

5. they are from Colrado Springs

Fundie city dominated by Dobson and his ilk. On the sidelines are the Methodists and Mormons.

Thank God Denver, Boulder and Pueblo are about to knock thier values back in to their own homes come November!

As long as Obama is the nominee that is. Clinton does not have a standing chance in hell here.

[crimsonblue]

21. There are some independent thinkers in Co, my family being such...

well... not my uncles or grandpa, but my cousins and sister are "radical liberals" in the eyes of Dobsonites. One cousin is a Ron Paul fan (big christian, but thinks the gov has no right dictating morality... he's pro-life but only on the federal level), the other is a former ROTC ex-christian, and my sister is the product of a KU education (in other words, an uber-liberal). But I would definitely agree that there are way too many fundies in Co. I went to a church service there in March (southern baptist... oh joy), and the preacher was saying that anybody that heres a lie is therefore a liar. And that hearing a lie is worse than telling a lie.. Then the usual polemic against gays and liberals. Fan was had by all. :puke:

[thunder rising]

6. Legislating a moral obligation is much easier than performing it.

[angrycarpenter]

8. war kills babies

hunger kills babies
disease kills babies

They should protest that. Until they do they are the same as those woman haters in the polygamy cult.

It is mind boggling how they could be so against these small issues and ignore the real horror of the world as irrelevant or even good.

What puzzles me most of all are the women who are fighting for the chance to surrender their reproductive freedom to a bunch of 19th century men who want them to be no more than baby machines.

[kiva]

9. And if they managed to restrict or abolish birth control

I promise that the stigma that used to be attached to single mothers will return with a vengeance. My sister-in-law got pregnant in the mid-60s (she was 16) and did the 'right' thing and got married, but was still kicked out of high school. When a friend got pregnant in the early 1970s, she had to leave school once in became obvious she was pregnant (the teachers turned a blind eye as long as they could); they let her come back the next year, but she'd lost so many credits that she couldn't graduate.

These fundies have laid low for the last couple of decades about this--they'd rather tell girls that abortion is murder--but if they can cut off access to birth control, the bad old days will be back.

[Hekate]

12. You betcha. And that is their plan. It is always, always, about controlling women's lives. nt

[kiva]

13. Yup, no telling what those women will do if you don't keep them barefoot and pregnant. nt

[uppityperson]

10. Choice forum link, and a couple comments/clips from "thepillkills" website

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=217x6187

I went to their website, so you don't have to soil your computer.

http://thepillkills.com/

"a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and... reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection." (what. the. hell? So if we have sex to enjoy it, not just to fill me with sperm, this reduces me to being a mere instrument for his satisfaction?)

"sexual activity outside of marriage is seriously wrong." (and, as we all know, the only TRUE marriage is a religious one between 1 man and his wife)

"Planned Parenthood has "a vested interest in lying to young women because they exploit them." (I am at a loss here. I've never felt exploited by PP giving me contraception. I've never lied to a young woman visiting PP to exploit them. Perhaps their experiences were different and they were given contraception only if they fucked the PP person first? Or maybe it is one of their fetishes?)

Everyone should know the deadly consequences of the pill and similar contraceptive products- they cause chemical abortions. Therefore, American Life League, along with Pro-Life Wisconsin and Pharmacists for Life International Associate groups, calls all pro-lifers across the country to speak out on Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies, scheduled for the Griswold anniversary of Saturday, June 7. We encourage you to gather with your friends for peaceful protests in front of facilities that distribute birth control products.

Planned Parenthood often promotes June 7 as a day of celebration because it can now sell birth control to young girls. American Life League crashed Planned Parenthood's 2005 Pill Party. Click here to see a video of our success there in spreading the truth about the pill:

From the beginning, the pill has been an abortifacient, meaning it can cause abortions.

Using statistical estimates of the number of chemical, medical and surgical abortions combined, computed by a biostatistician and an environmental epidemiologist, both at the University of Pittsburgh, along with an Ohio State University technical consultant and Bogomir M. Kuhar, a pharmacist, American Life League computed the following estimates for chemical abortions alone, from 1973 to 2003:


* During this period, approximately 6,605,000 to 11,725,000 chemical abortions occured in the United States annually.

* During this period, a total of 196,325,000 to 324,325,000 chemical abortions wiped out the equivalent of the entire United States population!

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

11. well, why wouldn't they. They are one justice away from overturning

roe v wade. Birth control is the obvious next target.

[Pushed To The Left]

19. Scary thought! I wish the McCain-voting Democrats would think about this issue more n/t

[FloridaJudy]

14. Wait...all birth control methods cause abortions????

That means condoms and vasectomies do? And you folks got your medical degrees....where exactly?

I've worked in the field of women's health for more than thirty years, and frankly you anti-choice jerks are so full of it that a good enema would solve the world fertilizer shortage. :argh:


(edited for clarity, since I was so hopping mad I got spittle all over my monitor)

[ColbertWatcher]

15. This is the GOP's plan to meet recruiting numbers. Bastards. n/t

[Ilsa]

16. There are "pro-life" people put there that deny this is happening.

Either they are stupid or they want to hide the depth of their agenda. I'm glad the newspapers are covering this.

[tyedyeto]

17. Who the fuck are.......

"Pharmacists for Life International" ?

And who are they to deny any physician's prescription?

I don't give a flying fuck who a pharmacist is.... if I have a prescription for ANY medication, a pharmacist is duty bound to honor said prescription.

[saigon68]

25. They are Nut Job Christian Fundamentalists

Who want to Cram their Dogma straight up your Rectum

[OmahaBlueDog]

18. The idea is to force women back into the home, force nuclear marriage, and turn the clock to 1950

They view this arrangement as good for America and good for the religon business.

I don't think there will necessarily be the backlash everyone here envisions if Roe is overturned, but if they fundies try to take the pill away, the GOP will be quickly removed from power permanantly. First and foremost, the Pill is a cash cow for Pharma. They're not going to roll over for the loss of billions.

[crimsonblue]

20. Uggghhh

I'm sorry, but a multicellular blob does not a baby make. Do these fundie groups not know how many natural miscarriages there are annually? So are miscarriages "God's abortion"? How does this jive with their notion of a loving God? Holy fuck. I would never imagine dictating what someone else does in their homes or with their bodies, so why do these fundies think they have the right to dictate ours? Earth to fundie dumbasses, studies are showing that abstinence only education does NOT decrease prevalence of STDs and only confuses kids about pregnancy (one article I read a while back stated that some kids believe drinking a shot of bleach will keep a girl from getting pregnant.... :wtf: ). We need to educate people into making proper choices, and parents need to explain to their kids that sex, while a great thing, is something not to be taken upon lightly (Not brow beat the kids that sex is evil and will make your penis fall off).

[crickets]

23. Oh, it's no surprise. This was always the next step. K&R -nt

.

[Kitty Herder]

24. It shocks me that people are capable of believing that fertilized eggs are "babies."

Where is their common sense? How can a person turn over all rational thought to their church with such utter abandon?!



:banghead: :banghead:

[depakid]

26. No surprise there

and when Roe and Griswold are overruled, I have little doubt that certain southern and lower midwestern states WILL restrict (or perhaps even ban) many forms of birth control.

Been warning people about that the far right's goals have been for years- but rather than recognize those- and relegate them to the fringe where they belong, all too many Dems have simply eneabled and legitimized them.

[noonwitch]

27. I thought the pill stopped ovulation

I didn't think that it caused a chemical reaction within the womb to prevent implantation of a fertilized ova. People really need to read up on why they oppose something before they start shooting their mouths off.

Most Catholics believe that an IUD is abortion, because it does cause the womb to reject a fertilized ova.