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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:29 PM
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Where is OUR Grover Norquist....
Edited on Wed May-14-08 11:48 PM by catnhatnh
and our plan for PNAC (Plan for the NEXT American Century)???Because their's has failed so clearly and openly.Yet where is the Democratic voice that as clearly advocates where and what a real balanced plan for a single and viable America might be.

Obviously, our plan will of need be more complex than destabilizing another government and attempting to take their oil.Our plan if we are to reflect the last 230 years of our experiment must reward enterprise and risk taking.But it cannot reflect our earlier tendencies toward empire.Instead our higher aspirations should move us toward a society where those who contribute the most to the economy are in fact the most rewarded by the system, but those who contribute little are not punished.
These things I hold to be self evident-that like the Declaration of Independence we should guarantee life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

What do these things guarantee at the least? Life I guess assumes housing, clothing, food, and heating enough not to die...though clothing could be optional-but I'd bet naked people will require more heating. Universal healthcare cannot guarantee you will live as long as a Rockefeller but might preclude you from dying from type two diabetes at 35. An elitist republican clown or libertarian will posit a bit on how this refers to executions-ignore them-dead by starvation or exposure or disease is dead also.

Liberty is a bit of a mixed blessing.It leaves Grover Norquist as a "respected think tank analyst" while I am regarded merely as a left wing moonbat poster to a "Democratic fringe website"...The major difference being that each day more people realize that I am the sane one.Real liberty means that tomorrow, even G.W. Bushes opinion is as valid as mine and should be as freely spoken right up until the day he stands before the Hague with his cohorts.

The "pursuit of happiness" is the Democratic mother of all bombs...for all the years since Reagan it has meant deregulation and that greed "is good" as econopaths sought "happiness" by raping the commons and indulging in excess.But what in the past 100 years has truly guaranteed to the largest number of Americans the pursuit of happiness if not the New Deal of FDR???The sorrow of course is that FDR never even went far enough...we have never achieved freedom from want and until want is gone the pursuit of happiness will never be reached.

Any day a Dupont (old wealth) or a Hilton (relatively new wealth) births a child, they will receive possibilities beyond the ken of the majority of Americans...they receive better housing, better food, better healthcare, better education, and better "justice" than you or I. But until the least of us get enough of each to reach our "guarantees" then our republic is a lie.

And what we need now is our own Grover, and a plan to get there...
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:34 PM
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1. can you make paragraphs NOT look like Einstein's formulas???
you know..like READABLE???
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:40 PM
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2. Okay,How?
I went back in and indented on edit and it still fails to appear...I'd like to be good at this but somehow it is not working...how do I edit in indents?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:44 PM
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3. Yeah, indents don't appear
But how about an extra blank line between paragraphs?

Like this.

Hope this helps, c!
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:45 PM
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4. I'll try it, and thank you!!!!N/T
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mtf80123 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:47 PM
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5. Not trying to "hijack" this thread, but
How do you link a word with a url on this forum without pasting the entire address?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:54 PM
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6. i don't think there's any other way
since urls are the address of a web page.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:55 PM
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7. that looks great!
now i need to go back and read it. :D
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:56 PM
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9. Thank you, Maam...N/T
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:56 PM
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8. now I can read it ..and have..and agree totally ..where is our
messiah of 'government CAN' vs 'government CAN'T' I think that is Obama who has used government all his life to better the lives of those less fortunate?
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:08 AM
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11. I support Obama....but mainly as the lesser evil....
...it occurs to me though that if all these benefits were guarateed-even to those who "refuse to work", that at the end of the day, when the "slacker" died, he would have returned every nickle given to him by the government to the economy, less a partial balance from last months check and a small pantry heavy on ramen noodles...which leaves a pretty light "assets" footprint on the economy as compared to the assets loss when a rich man dies with billions uncirculated and untaxed....that all represents the wealth of our nation the cheap bastard refused to trickle down on us.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:23 AM
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13. Obama cannot demand change from the current malaise in DC..he needs US
WE THE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIM INTO THIS THING CALLED CHANGE..he has no power...none..zilch..nada...IT MUST BE US...WE THE PEOPLE HE CALLS ON TO FORCE CONGRESS TO NOT ABIDE BY THIER FUNDERS ON K STREET!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:04 AM
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10. Grover makes me cringe
Guys like him, Medved for instance, consider freedom to be defined as keeping all their dough. Seems like they just want to make their chunk and keep it without feeling responsible for anyone but themselves. It's unrealistic.

I think that a voice like Thom Hartmann who is schooled in the concept of the commons has a lot to offer and he works at it. If we can fix the problems of the airwaves, FCC etc, you know what I mean, voices like Thom's plus our own think tanks will be heard far and wide.

Seems like Americans have had a huge dose of the greed crowd and are ready for a return to the idea that those who are given much have to meet greater expectations.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 12:20 AM
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12. grover is a con man,a grifter,and a phony
other than that you do have a excellent point about a "plan". remember that plan can not be set in stone.
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