How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

[NightWatcher]

Damn the internets with their series of tubes

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president.

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

And you have the balls to go to Isreal and equivacate someone else's activities to the appeasement of nazis? It was your Grand Pappy that funded the machines and helped build the showers in which millions were gassed.

[liberal N proud]

1. Bring it on, he wants to compare Democrats to Nazis...

He needs to be exposed for the Hitler connections and compared in kind.

[SpiralHawk]

5. "The Nazi stuff is ok, just don't get into the Bush family occult Thingy. Smirk." - Commander AWOL

[Virginia Dare]

9. Especially don't bring up the fact that his other grandpappy...

was most probably a satanist. PLEASE DON'T BRING IT UP!....:evilgrin:

[AzDar]

12. Looking at a photo of Mr. Crowley, one can certainly see where Babs gets her

perpetually-apoplectic facial features from.

I'm guessing she also retains quite a bit of his 'evil', too.;)

[frog92969]

24. Mr. Crowley?

Evil? Do yourself a favor and don't beleive everything you hear.

Also ironic is that Crowley worked to deter Hitler.

[Baby Snooks]

39. The Crowley rumor

That was a rumor but Barbara's mother was apparently part of the same crowd in Europe that found something "enchanting" about Aleister Crowley but even with that most dismiss the rumor. Until they see a photo of Aleister Crowley. And then they wonder about it.

[Baby Snooks]

41. Makes you wonder...

?

[WinkyDink]

50. Bar in a top hat!

[frog92969]

43. Thanks

I hadn't heard that before.
There is a family resemblance.

[1776Forever]

11. This made me think of Prescott's legend of digging up Geronimo skull for the Society - Sick people!!

The Nation; Secret Yale Club May Have Stolen Geronimo's Skull

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/1034413151.html?dids=1034413151:1034413151&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+10%2C+2006&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=The+Nation%3B+Secret+Yale+Club+May+Have+Stolen+Geronimo's+Skull&pqatl=google

Los Angeles Times - Los Angeles, Calif.
Date: May 10, 2006

According to Skull and Bones legend, members -- including President Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush -- dug up Geronimo's grave when a group of Army volunteers from Yale were stationed at the fort during World War I. Geronimo died in 1909.

"What I think we could probably say is they removed some skull and bones and other materials from a grave at Ft. Sill," he said. "Historically, it may be impossible to prove it's Geronimo's. They believe it's from Geronimo."

Harlyn Geronimo, the great grandson of Geronimo, said he had been looking for a lawyer to sue the U.S. Army, which runs Ft. Sill. Discovery of the letter could help, he said.

[Mabus]

13. remember the Moveon.org Bush commerical contest?

and how the Republicans went nuts when there were two (iirc) ads submitted that compared Hitler and Bush? What are we hearing from them now?


I do believe that's crickets I hear
*chirp* *chirp*

[Indydem]

2. Look, I'm not obsolving Prescott...

...of trading with the enemy and assisting the rise of Nazism. Obviously his dealings were crooked and unpatriotic at the least, treasonable at the worst.

But to blame Prescott for the holocaust is a little off base. Very few, if anyone, knew what was going on with the "final solution." Most Germans didn't even know what was being done, let alone Americans.

Assisting the Nazi party and Hitler in gearing up their war machine is bad enough. Don't muddy the argument by trying to tie Prescott to activiites which history indicates he (and even FDR) had no knowledge of.

[hokies4ever]

3. All's fair in love and war

This comparison pales in comparison to Bush's speech today in Israel.

[SpiralHawk]

6. Toss the bucket of NAZI shit right back in Commander AWOL's face

Come on Obama. Right back at Skull & Boner Boy with the truth...

[Virginia Dare]

10. Screw the bucket. BOTH BARRELS!!!

the repubs have NO ISSUES to run on. The entire campaign will be based around questioning Obama's patriotism and heritage.

[Ian_rd]

16. Obama should make this part of his response.

"When you start accusing your opponent of being a Nazi appeaser, then you officially have no issues to run on."

He can also start characterizing the Republican Campaign as one of using fear to manipulate the public and he won't be proven wrong. What the Hell is McCain gonna run on? Change? Hope? Fear is all they have.

[NightWatcher]

4. No, there is no "selective support" if you supported any aspect of the nazi machine

I tie you directly with the deaths of millions. Grand Pappy Bush threw his lot behind the fascists and made money off of this. No doubt some of that money has funded shrub and got him where he is today. For bush to go to Isreal and talk of the appeasement of nazis is beyond obscene. I hope he gets nailed for this remark

[Hubert Flottz]

47. Bush's grandfather worked for IG Farben

I G Farben Made the Zyklon-B gas that the Nazis used in the death camps. IG Farben used slave laborers from the camps to build it's huge Buna plant next to the Auschwitz/Berkenau camp. IG Farben/Bayer even commissioned Dr. Josef Mengele's famed horrid medical experiments.

Auschwitz concentration camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp

Auschwitz-Birkenau - "The Death Factory"

Snip>

The Auschwitz complex was divided in three major camps: Auschwitz I main camp or Stammlager; Auschwitz II, or Birkenau, established on October 8th, 1941 as a 'Vernichtungslager' (extermination camp); Auschwitz III or Monowitz, established on May 31th, 1942 as an 'Arbeitslager' or work camp; also several sub-camps. There were up to seven gas chambers using Zyklon-B poison gas and three crematoria. Auschwitz II included a camp for new arrivals and those to be sent on to labor elsewhere; a Gypsy camp; a family camp; a camp for holding and sorting plundered goods and a women's camp. Auschwitz III provided slave labor for a major industrial plant run by I G Farben for producing synthetic rubber (see Blechhammer). Highest number of inmates, including sub-camps: 155,000. The estimated number of deaths: 2.1 to 2.5 million killed in gas chambers, of whom about 2 million were Jews, and Poles, Gypsies and Soviet POWs. About 330,000 deaths from other causes.

Snip>

((("Auschwitz III provided slave labor for a major industrial plant run by I G Farben for producing synthetic rubber")))

http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Camps/AuschwitzEng.html

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Snip>

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

snip>

Bush was also on the board of at least one of the companies that formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world.

Thyssen owned the largest steel and coal company in Germany and grew rich from Hitler's efforts to re-arm between the two world wars. One of the pillars in Thyssen's international corporate web, UBC, worked exclusively for, and was owned by, a Thyssen-controlled bank in the Netherlands. More tantalising are Bush's links to the Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), based in mineral rich Silesia on the German-Polish border. During the war, the company made use of Nazi slave labour from the concentration camps, including Auschwitz. The ownership of CSSC changed hands several times in the 1930s, but documents from the US National Archive declassified last year link Bush to CSSC, although it is not clear if he and UBC were still involved in the company when Thyssen's American assets were seized in 1942.

snip>

The third set of documents, also at the National Archives, are contained in the files on IG Farben, who was prosecuted for war crimes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Chapter - II - The Hitler Project

snip>

How important was the Nazi enterprise for which President Bush's father was the New York banker?

The 1942 U.S. government investigative report said that Bush's Nazi-front bank was an interlocking concern with the Vereinigte Stahlwerke (United Steel Works Corporation or German Steel Trust) led by Fritz Thyssen and his two brothers. After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output:

50.8% of Nazi Germany's pig iron
41.4% of Nazi Germany's universal plate
36.0% of Nazi Germany's heavy plate
38.5% of Nazi Germany's galvanized sheet
45.5% of Nazi Germany's pipes and tubes
22.1% of Nazi Germany's wire
35.0% of Nazi Germany's explosives.

Prescott Bush became vice president of W.A. Harriman & Co. in 1926. That same year, a friend of Harriman and Bush set up a giant new organization for their client Fritz Thyssen, prime sponsor of politician Adolf Hitler. The new German Steel Trust, Germany's largest industrial corporation, was organized in 1926 by Wall Street banker Clarence Dillon. Dillon was the old comrade of Prescott Bush's father Sam Bush from the `` Merchants of Death '' bureau in World War I. Much More here...

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#3%20--

[nichomachus]

7. Please supply some proof

that "very few Americans" knew what was going on. I don't believe that's true -- despite its frequent repetition. The fact is that most Germans and quite a few Americans knew what was was going on. In fact, the Jewish community in the US sponsored several large rallies in support of German Jews at the same time that American corporatists -- Henry Ford, Tom Watson of IBM, and others were still gaga over Der Fuhrer.

IBM continued its support of the Third Reich right until the end of the war, helping the Germans develop computer algorithms and supplying the machinery to catalog and track Jews, aiding in the holocaust. In fact, the only source of the punch cards needed to run the German computing machines was IBM, which supplied them, right until the end of the war, through its European subsidiaries.

What's more, IBM was leasing the machines to the Germans -- since IBM never sold equipment in those days. When the war ended, the US military assigned special officers to visit the death camps and military posts to make sure that IBM got its equipment back.

While the majority of ordinary Americans may not have known about the final solution until later, the Americans at the top -- like the traitorous Prescott Bush -- knew damn well what was happening. After all, he was the one who tried to overthrow FDR in 1934 so he could install himself as the fascist dictator of the US. He should have been hanged and his whole family disgraced.

[AntiFascist]

37. We should not be so quick to absolve what is left of American fascism...

Hitler may have gone off the deep end and taken his loyal followers along with him, but the Strategy of Tension is alive and well in the Middle East, and thrives in right-wing warnings of what will happen to the US if a Democrat takes power. Terrorism and terrorist threats against Israel have been carefully fostered by the ruling dynasties and they hope it will play out according to script. The result, if we are not careful, according to right-wing interpretations of biblical scripture, could be worse than the Holocaust itself!

[emilyg]

42. Thank you for pointing that out. They knew.

[UpInArms]

55. The Business Plot To Overthrow Roosevelt

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Coup.htm

In the summer of 1933, shortly after Roosevelt's "First 100 Days," America's richest businessmen were in a panic. It was clear that Roosevelt intended to conduct a massive redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. Roosevelt had to be stopped at all costs.

The answer was a military coup. It was to be secretly financed and organized by leading officers of the Morgan and Du Pont empires. This included some of America's richest and most famous names of the time:
Irenee Du Pont - Right-wing chemical industrialist and founder of the American Liberty League, the organization assigned to execute the plot.
Grayson Murphy - Director of Goodyear, Bethlehem Steel and a group of J.P. Morgan banks.

William Doyle - Former state commander of the American Legion and a central plotter of the coup.

John Davis - Former Democratic presidential candidate and a senior attorney for J.P. Morgan.

Al Smith - Roosevelt's bitter political foe from New York. Smith was a former governor of New York and a codirector of the American Liberty League.

John J. Raskob - A high-ranking Du Pont officer and a former chairman of the Democratic Party. In later decades, Raskob would become a "Knight of Malta," a Roman Catholic Religious Order with a high percentage of CIA spies, including CIA Directors William Casey, William Colby and John McCone.

Robert Clark - One of Wall Street's richest bankers and stockbrokers.

Gerald MacGuire - Bond salesman for Clark, and a former commander of the Connecticut American Legion. MacGuire was the key recruiter to General Butler.

The plotters attempted to recruit General Smedley Butler to lead the coup. They selected him because he was a war hero who was popular with the troops. The plotters felt his good reputation was important to make the troops feel confident that they were doing the right thing by overthrowing a democratically elected president. However, this was a mistake: Butler was popular with the troops because he identified with them. That is, he was a man of the people, not the elite. When the plotters approached General Butler with their proposal to lead the coup, he pretended to go along with the plan at first, secretly deciding to betray it to Congress at the right moment.

What the businessmen proposed was dramatic: they wanted General Butler to deliver an ultimatum to Roosevelt. Roosevelt would pretend to become sick and incapacitated from his polio, and allow a newly created cabinet officer, a "Secretary of General Affairs," to run things in his stead. The secretary, of course, would be carrying out the orders of Wall Street. If Roosevelt refused, then General Butler would force him out with an army of 500,000 war veterans from the American Legion. But MacGuire assured Butler the cover story would work:

"You know the American people will swallow that. We have got the newspapers. We will start a campaign that the President's health is failing. Everyone can tell that by looking at him, and the dumb American people will fall for it in a second…"

The businessmen also promised that money was no object: Clark told Butler that he would spend half his $60 million fortune to save the other half.

And what type of government would replace Roosevelt's New Deal? MacGuire was perfectly candid to Paul French, a reporter friend of General Butler's:

"We need a fascist government in this country… to save the nation from the communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the soldiers, and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million men overnight."

Indeed, it turns out that MacGuire travelled to Italy to study Mussolini's fascist state, and came away mightily impressed. He wrote glowing reports back to his boss, Robert Clark, suggesting that they implement the same thing.

...more...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. Please read the whole article, and maybe you'll change your tune.... Look for American-

Silesian Steel and Consolidated Silesian Steel. Prescott Bush knew damn well about the concentration camps.

[Indydem]

14. Again, not obsolving Prescott or ANYONE...

... but concentration camps were well known - absolutely.

MANY people knew about the injustices being done to Jews in Germany and it conquered territories. That is not the issue - whether or not they knew about the HOLOCAUST is another.

People believed that the Jews were being rounded up and stored at the concentration camps, but they did not know about the gas chambers or the incinerators. That information was only revealed to its full extent after the war as allied forces liberated the camps.

While many believe that the "fianl solution" began with Hitler's rise to power, the truth is that mass extermination of Jews in extermination camps didn't even begin until 1942. Millions were killed by Nazi thuggery before that, but what we have come to think of as the holocaust was a much later development.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_World_War_II_in_Europe

"In the last months of the war and immediately afterwards, Allied soldiers discovered a number of concentration camps and other locations that had been used by the Nazis to imprison and exterminate an estimated 11 million people. The largest single group represented in this number were Jewish (roughly half the total according to the Nuremberg trials), but Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals and various minorities and disabled persons, as well as political enemies of the Nazi regime (particularly communists) formed the remainder. The most well-known of these camps is the death camp Auschwitz in which about 1.1–1.6 million prisoners were killed. Although the Nazi genocide or Holocaust was largely unknown to the Allied soldiers fighting the war, it has become an inseparable part of the story of World War II."

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. Do you honestly think that a person that was directly involved with those camps

as Prescott Bush was, wouldn't have been aware of the holocaust? I cannot buy that.

Gentle correction. The word is Absolve not Obsolve.

[ms liberty]

19. You need to look into the Smedley Butler plot to overthrow FDR...

Prescott was one of a group of wealthy industrialists who were opposed to FDR, and were enamoured with the fascist model of politics favored in Europe, particularly Germany at that time. Here's an excellent by Octafish from the archives, with a bonus pic:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1468311


edited for grammar

[mod mom]

21. Well what about his (Prescott's) role in the attempted coup on FDR:

July 24, 2007

BBC: grandpa Bush linked to attempted FDR coup
Update: Apparently BBC did a video documentary on this as well and Prescott Bush was identified then as well. Well, I still think it should be daily news.

##

Yes the coup is old news... so old, in fact, that most people have never heard of it (making it actually new again). But the new news here is grandpa Bush's role in the coup (unless this latest horror is old news as well that I somehow missed while watching the current fiasco unfold - see above update).

And since grandson Bush is the current President of the United States and has implemented what can reasonably be called a fascist agenda of state and corporate interests united... then such news would be even more important for the American public. One would think...No?

"The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression."

You can listen to the radio report on the FDR coup HERE.

-snip

http://www.atlargely.com/2007/07/bbc-grandpa-bus.html




The Whitehouse Coup
Monday 23 July 2007


Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen
View a picture gallery of images related to this edition.



The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.

audio:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

[defendandprotect]

27. Are you trying to suggest these backers weren't anti-semitic????

Prescott Bush/Allen Dulles/Herbert Walker -- were involved in raising money from all over the world
from elites -- incuding Royals who were certainly anti-semitic --- to back Hitler.

The Bush family has been notoriously anti-Jewish --- including it is alleged that they broke up a serious romance between George and a Jewish girl ---

And, of course, Germans knew what was happening -- but by the time they tried to react to it, they
were firmly under the thumb of violence Nazism.

I think this group also undid the WWI accords which limited German's ability to build a new war machine . . . that was one of the first things they got overturned!!!

[Baby Snooks]

45. Fritz Thyssen

Fritz Thyssen turned to Prescott Bush for funding and while his family have managed to "revise" history just as the Bushes have the reality is he continued to fund the Nazi party despite his supposed "horror" of what was happening in the concentration camps. When Hitler finally turned on Thyssen, he turned to Prescott Bush once more. To launder his money to keep it out of Hitler's reach. That is really what led to the seizing of the bank under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

Everyone including Winston Churchill knew about the "final solution" because of Mein Kampf. But all the good Germans, in and out of Germany, acted completely unaware of what had occurred after the war.

They knew. The German people knew. Just as the American people know.

Some of us, however, really are not good Germans. We weren't then. We aren't now.

[WinkyDink]

51. WHAT?? Prescott was a KNOWING TRAITOR.

[UpInArms]

53. a bit of a history lesson for you

here

Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation was located near the Polish town of Oswiecim, one of Poland's richest mineral regions. That was where Hitler set up the Auschwitz concentration camp. When the plan to work Soviet prisoners fell through, the Nazis transferred Jews, communists, gypsies and other minority populations to the camp. The prisoners of Auschwitz who were able to work were shipped to 30 different companies. One of the companies was the vast Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation.

"Nobody's made the connection before between Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, Auschwitz and Prescott Bush," John Loftus told Clamor.

"That was the reason why Auschwitz was built there. The coal deposits could be processed into either coal or additives for aviation gasoline."

Even though Thyssen and Flick's Consolidated Steel was in their possession, Hitler's invasions across Europe spooked them, bringing back memories of World War I. Thyssen and Flick sold Consolidated Steel to UBC. Under the complete control of Harriman and management of Bush, the company became Silesian American Corporation which became part of UBC and Harriman's portfolio of 15 corporations. Thyssen quickly moved to Switzerland and later France to hide from the terror about to be unleashed by the Nazi war machine he had helped build.

A portion of the slave labor force in Poland was "managed by Prescott Bush," according to a Dutch intelligence agent. In 1941, slave labor had become the lifeblood of the Nazi war machine. The resources of Poland's rich steel and coal field played an essential part in Hitler's invasion of Europe.

According to Higham, Hitler and the Fraternity of American businessmen "not only sought a continuing alliance of interests for the duration of World War II, but supported the idea of a negotiated peace with Germany that would bar any reorganization of Europe along liberal lines. It would leave as its residue a police state that would place the Fraternity in postwar possession of financial, industrial, and political autonomy."

[Octafish]

17. After the war, Prescott Bush and his Pals WELCOMED the NAZIs...

...for business and politics, at least.


Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=872755


Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1547206&mesg_id=1547206


Know your BFEE: Like a NAZI

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=133897


It's what made these conservative, gangster, mafia, military-industrial-intelligence complex, drug-running, treasonous bedwetting bastards into the Bush Family Evil Empire.

[cyberpj]

18. But he (Poppy) dresses up beautifully, doesn't he? (Isn't that against Federal law?)

[Frisbee]

22. Isn't that against Federal law?

You forget, the Bushes make the laws, and when they don't like them, well they no longer apply to them.

[stlsaxman]

52. They arrested Abby for it-

[annabanana]

20. k&r. . . . n/t

[Just-plain-Kathy]

23. If you check back even Prescott's father Samuel was a war profiteer;

...he worked for the company who supplied bullets to all sides fighting in WWI.


******
The White House Mafia spreads fear worldwide while selling weapons on the side.

[DeSwiss]

34. Try this link...

http://www.h2-pv.us/Bush-Hitler/

[Baby Snooks]

40. An empire no one noticed...

Samuel Bush never left Columbus but nonetheless created an empire that was merged with the empire of Herbert Walker through the marriage of their children. He developed a "model" community for the rich called Upper Arlington in Columbus and founded the Scioto Country Club and also a military academy called Columbus Academy which turned out litle "Boys from Brazil" and eventually started turning out little "Girls from Brazil" as well. His political views were quite radical at the time but in some ways have become the prevailing views in Ohio among Republicans who really were the first of what I call Republicrats.

Just as no one knows how much the Bushes are worth at this point as I recall from my mother and grandmother no one knew how much he was worth either but he was wealthy in a town where quite a few were rich but few if any knew what wealthy was. The original Bush home is now a convent. I believe Samuel Bush moved eventually to Bexley. Home of Larry Flynt among other "illustrious" citizens.

[defendandprotect]

25. Not a peep from the corporate-media about that . . . nor Iran-Contra or October Surprise!!!

[frog92969]

26. Funny that.

[verges]

28. Now hold on...

Isn't there a slight difference between giving aid and comfort with appeasement? I think giving aid and comfort is worse. Isn't it?

[samsingh]

29. who's the real appeaser of hitler? NAME IS BUSH

[unpossibles]

30. one more point: the Senator he quoted is....

Republican Senator William Borah

Funny how he forgot to mention who said it.

[Hekate]

31. Anyone sending this off to Keith Olbermann yet? It might come in useful. nt

[WheelWalker]

32. Truth. When do we want it? NOW !

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[Muttocracy]

35. I think the ads are just writing themselves now... nt

[LaStrega]

36. this should be spread far and wide k&r n/t

[Baby Snooks]

38. Never a rumor...

It was just always dismissed as a rumor by the media through the years without any real "rhyme or reason" other than possibly they feared what might happen to them if they published what has been recorded in the National Archives for decades. Prescott Bush was a traitor in every sense of the word. He used the Harriman money to finance the Nazi Party without the full knowledge of the Harrimans. Behind Prescott, however, was his father, Samuel Bush, who promoted fascism as if it were an ideal of federalism. Very few outside of Ohio have ever heard of Samuel Bush. But those whose families lived in Columbus have. He was a pillar of the community until he started promoting his fascist views and quickly turned into a pariah. But not completely. Some furthered his views and one of his proteges went on to found the John Birch Society.

Many wonder if Pamela Harriman was murdered. Perhaps she knew too much. She certainly knew the truth about the Bushes. And possibly about the Clintons. She knew about the Bushes and the Nazi connection because she had an affair with Averell Harriman during the war. She was married to Winston Churchill's son and Winston Churchill initially supported Hitler and his views and the views of the Nazi Party. She may have finally put two and two together. History is always more than what we read. Much of it is hidden away in archives and what we read has been "revised" to make it somehow noble for future generations. And when it is talked about by those who knew and know for some reason it is always dismissed as rumor. When it is actually fact. As this is.

She may have known about the Bushes and the Clintons. A picture is always worth a thousand words. And there are probably thousands of pictures of the Bushes and the Clintons together at this point.

After the war the bank was dissolved. Which made Prescott Bush a very wealthy man. The Bushes have always done well by other people's money. Samuel Bush did well by the Rockefellers. Prescott Bush did well by the Harrimans. George HW Bush did well by the Saud and bin Laden families.

At this point, no one else needs to do well - no one knows how much the Bushes are worth. But in all likelihood they would be on the Forbes list of billionaires. Most of the money at this point is invested heavily in the "military-industrial" complex. Which of course is the fuel of the fire in Iraq and the entire Middle East.

The Bushes are probably doing as well as Halliburton from their war.

And there the Empress sits. Listening to the Emperor fiddle as Rome burns. It is too late to save Rome.

[Norrin Radd]

44. kr

[opihimoimoi]

46. He must be frustrated as hell....talk about unintended consequences...this was it,,,

Ole Prescott must be t.......

Jr gonna get scolding at the nx Fam din din

[DUlover2909]

48. The apple falls not far from the branch.

[WinkyDink]

49. Not news to anyone who has the least knowledge of Bushco.

[BrklynLib at work]

54. And wasn't Prescott part of the cabal that tried to overthrow FDR, only to be revealed by someone

they thought would help them out...the author of "War is a Racket", Marine Major General Smedley Butler.

“War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

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Major General Butler claimed that the American Liberty League was the plot's primary source of funding. The House Un-American Activities Committee found no evidence of this. The main backers of the American Liberty League were the Du Pont family, as well as leaders of U.S. Steel, General Motors, Standard Oil, Chase National Bank, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company. The 2007 BBC radio documentary The White House Coup<3> alleged that Prescott Bush, father and grandfather to the 41st and 43rd US Presidents respectively, was also connected with companies owned by Fritz Thyssen.