Amy Goodman: Legendary Author Gore Vidal on Bush , History and the “United States of Amnesia”

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from Democracy Now!:



Legendary Author Gore Vidal on the Bush Presidency, History and the “United States of Amnesia”

With a career spanning more than six decades, Gore Vidal is one of America’s most respected writers and thinkers. He’s authored more than twenty novels and five plays. His latest book is Point to Point Navigation: A Memoir.

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Gore Vidal, One of America’s most respected writers and thinkers. He’s authored more than twenty novels and five plays. His recent books include Dreaming War, Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace and Imperial America: Reflections on the United States of Amnesia. His latest is Point to Point Navigation: A Memoir.


AMY GOODMAN: With a career spanning more than six decades, Gore Vidal is one of America’s most respected writers and thinkers, authored more than twenty novels, five plays. His recent books include Dreaming War, Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace and Imperial America: Reflections on the United States of Amnesia. His latest is a memoir; it’s called Point to Point Navigation.

Last week at the Los Angeles Times Festival of Books, I heard Gore Vidal would be there and afterwards went to his home in Hollywood Hills. We sat down in his living room, and I asked him for his thoughts on this election year and on the last eight years of George W. Bush in the White House.

GORE VIDAL: Well, it isn’t over yet. You know, he could still blow up the world. There’s every indication that he’s still thinking about attacking Iran: ‘And the generals are now reporting that the Iran are a great danger and their weapons are being used to kill Americans.’

I mean, you know, I think, quite rightly, the Bushites think that the American people are idiots. They don’t get the point to anything. There are two good reasons for this, is the public educational system for people, kids without money, let’s say, to put it tactfully, is one of the worst in the first world. It’s just terrible. And they end by knowing no history, certainly no American history. I didn’t mean to spend my life writing American history, which should have been taught in the schools, but I saw no alternative but to taking it on myself. I could think of a lot of cheerier things I’d rather be doing than analyzing George Washington and Aaron Burr. But it came to pass, that was my job, so I did it.

AMY GOODMAN: You wrote United States of Amnesia. Why?

GORE VIDAL: That’s a good title. You must remember, this is a people that has no culture, that has never had one. After all, I was first published when I was nineteen, and the first time I was a bestseller I was twenty-one, twenty-two. I thought by the time I’m old, this place is going to be greatly improved, not just because I was around, but I was going to contribute to it. But then I saw how the New York Times had blocked in their little tight world of New York publishing, which they really did to publish each other’s books. The results have not been very good.

So here we are, cut off from Europe, basically, by the World War II. Then the post-war period was kind of interesting, because a lot of us went abroad and stayed there for a time and got to understand other cultures. And I saw—I saw, with many cases, Jimmy Baldwin, he became a Frenchman, surprisingly. Surprising accent, but he was sharp as a tack.

AMY GOODMAN: Did you know him?

GORE VIDAL: Yes, very well.

AMY GOODMAN: What are your memories of him?

GORE VIDAL: He had two voices. One, he sounded exactly like Bette Davis suffering in one of her movies. And the other one was “Call me Ishmael”—it was the prophet’s voice. So he was a bit of a contradiction. .......(more)

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[demnan]

1. I like what he says in the end

She asks him how he would like to be remembered. He says, "I don't give a Goddamn".

[countryjake]

2. OMG! Thank you for pointing us to this!

I loved his comment about a firing squad and Dred Scalia!

Great man, great interview!

K&R!

[Ghost Dog]

3. Gore Vidal's "The Golden Age", on the ins and outs of US involvement in WWII,

is world-view-illuminating writing. Vidal has Roosevelt very determined to enter the war. As well as the domestic DC and Pearl Harbor material, we are flies on the wall as Churchill tells Roosevelt that the UK's payments to the US had bankrupted the country and they discuss how the UK can continue to pay. It is suggested that in no way would Churchill consider using Canada as payment, but that the Bahamas and/or Bermuda might have been on the table... in the end the Lend-Lease (later, Anglo-American Loan) terms were agreed, and after the war US Marshall Plan reconstruction finance flowed into all of Western Europe (even Franco's Spain) but not the (socialist post-war) UK, which continued for decades to pay the USA (last payment made in 2006, apparently). There is the start of the Cold War and America's push to dominate the world and much, much more clearly and coherently described as it were from the 'inside' in this book.

The issue of Bush clan financing of the Nazi war effort at the time coming up again, I see, in DU today had already brought the book to mind: I'm pretty sure there is plenty of at least general talk about this area in the novel, too. I'll put it on my re-reading list. Glad to see Mr. Vidal going on strong there. :thumbsup:

Edit to add this quote from the Amy Goodman interview:

... I didn’t realize—I think I’ve always had a good idea about my native land, but I didn’t think that institutionally we were so easy to overthrow, because it was a coup d’etat, 9/11. The whole went crashing. And when we got rid of—when they got rid of Magna Carta, I thought, well, really, this wasn’t much of a republic to begin with.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean, Magna Carta?

GORE VIDAL: Well, you know what Magna Carta means?

AMY GOODMAN: Explain it.

GORE VIDAL: Tell your readers, your viewers. It’s the basis of our law. Out of it comes the whole theory, practice, on which our—certainly judicial system is based: due process of law. You cannot deprive somebody of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, because that is a right, constitutional right. And that is—I mean, every proper American, that’s graved on his psyche, certainly was on mine...

[BuelahWitch]

4. I didn't know he was related to Al Gore!

[countryjake]

5. Kick!

[L. Coyote]

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