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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:31 AM
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A Fan Letter from Hell
Edited on Sun May-18-08 09:26 AM by Octafish
Dear George, Jr.,

First off, I want to say that I am your biggest and Number-1 complete Fan. From the bottom of heart and wallet, wherever they are, I want to thank you for all you and your family have done for our sacred Cause.

Your grandfathers helped finance our Party. They helped us rebuild and re-arm for the fight against the Bolsheviks. We couldn't have even imagined starting a war without them.

We also owe your ancestors and their friends an enormous debt for their inspiring work on Eugenics and racial superiority. The human experimentation was really something, too. And to think some believe our scientists came up with that one! Thanks for letting us keep the credit.

Your ancestors and their colleagues helped keep our planes, tanks and ships fueled during the Second Great War. It wasn't easy squeezing petrol out of coal, but we did it. Teamwork. And just like today with so-called "Alternative Energy," Big Oil owns the patents.

Your family and friends' support was there after the war, too. Your ancestors and their colleagues welcomed as many of our officers and men as could be exfiltrated to safety and new lives serving the Cause in the West. So, we never laugh at any joke where the punchline is "military intelligence."

Today, you — and members of your family and friends — continue the work of our sacred Cause. For instance:

Your Department of Justice serves as the Political Action Arm of Karl Rove. Its function: protect and reward friends, punish and destroy enemies. Along with political enemies, you jail drug users. You even out your own spies as a warning to other truth-tellers. We would just shoot them in our time, but in yours they must serve a higher purpose. That’s some Department of Just-Us. Such humor, ja?

Your excellent Domestic Policies have not merely left no child behind, you have left an entire nation of rabble behind. Your fiscal policies have served the interests of the monied class to the exclusion of the masses, including your bourgoise middle classes. Your Trickle-Down, Flood-Up policies have served to nearly- bankrupt the United States Treasury and enrich your family and supporters’ accounts in the Caymans and Switzerland. Reverse-Robin Hood came in the disguise Tax Cuts that serve to lower the common person’s standard of living in the short- and long-terms. Perhaps, best of all for the future, you have de-funded public education and funded Pentagon propaganda. Good thing you can keep printing those I.O.U.s to the dictators running China and Saudi Arabia.

In the field of Foreign Affairs you also show your true colors. “With us or against us” pretty much tells the world: “Fear Us. Support Us. Do what we Order. Or Die.” In the case of Iraq — a nation innocent of any role in the attacks of September 11 and posing no threat of any kind, let alone WMDs, to your country — you manufactured evidence of a threat and manipulated public opinion to support an illegal and immoral invasion and occupation. In the process, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women and children have died. The cost: the lives of more than 4,000 of your nation’s finest men and women and health of untold thousands more. As a highlight, you more than quadrupled the price of oil, creating unimaginable wealth for your family and friends.

You must have learned the value of war from your Poppy. When he was in the Oval Office, his Operation JUST CAUSE in Panama killed 2,000 people who had nothing to do with Manuel Noriega’s CIA-affiliated drug pushing. Still, the guy was a witness and had to go.

In Baghdad, Poppy's acting ambassador to Iraq gave a green light to Saddam Hussein, who then ordered his army to invade Kuwait. Then Poppy's minions doctored satellite photographs in order to sell the lie to Saudi Arabia that they were next. In the process, oil prices and his Q-numbers went up like a V-2. Inspired! It also gave Poppy all the excuse he needed to declare an end to the "VietNam Syndrome" and gun-boat-shy international policies his fellows' actions had created.

Those were the days. And, thanks to you and yours, these are, as well. Wish I had time to write more. The smell of sulfur means its time to get back to The Pit. Before I go, though, I must say:

No one has done more to harm America than you. Not Stalin. Not Mao. Not even all the dim-witted Kings of England. Not even me. You. You, George Walker Bush. You! You are The Beast. You have done more to damage the Constitution and the safety, welfare and happiness of “We the People" than anyone in history.

Thank you from the bottom of the space in my chest where my heart, I am told, used to be,

Yours in Eternity,

Uncle Adolf



Edit for Smirko: "...than anyone in history."
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:46 AM
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1. Superb Octafish!
what a great read to wake up to! :)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:18 PM
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9. Thank you, leftchick!
I got it off my chest when I couldn’t get back to sleep this morning.



Finding and installing the links took me a couple of hours or so.
Re-reading it now, I wish I'd spent more time editing it. Oh, well. Next time.
Reading that you liked it makes my day.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:01 AM
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2. off to the Greatest Page with You!!
:kick: 5th K&R :patriot:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:34 PM
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10. Thanks, Tuesday Afternoon! Hey, didja hear where all the good U.S. manufacturing jobs went?
Well the Wall Street jobs are heading that way, too.





Bush Sr lobbies China for Citigroup bid

Former US president George Bush has pressed Beijing to support a bid by a consortium to purchase a stake in the country's Guangdong Development Bank.

A consortium, led by Citibank and including venture capital firm the Carlyle Group, is keen to buy a 24.1 billion yuan ($3 billion) share of the bank, the Chinese 21st Century Business Herald reports.

If ministers in Beijing approve the deal, the consortium will own 85 per cent of the troubled Guangdong Development Bank. Current Chinese rules state that no single foreign investor can own more than 20 per cent of any domestic bank and there is a 25 per cent cap on combined foreign investment.

George Bush Senior addressed a letter to the Chinese ministry of foreign affairs, stating:
    "On my personal behalf, I vigorously ask the Chinese government to support the US companies' efforts to buy into Guangdong Development Bank.

    "I sincerely believe that the deal would be conducive to the overall development of the Sino-US relationship."

The letter has been passed onto the China Banking Regulatory Commission. Beijing still controls many of the country's assets, including its banks, and any deal for Guangdong Development Bank is expected to involve international diplomacy.

A French consortium, led by Societe Generale, has also bid for an 80 per cent stake in the southern Chinese bank and the French government is believed to be supporting the move.

http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/12910.html



Poppy and his family-n-friends'll go anywhere for a buck.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:27 PM
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19. wtf kind of country leader uses the word "deal" in a letter?
this has to be a fraud. I'm just saying, they have thousands of typists and word smiths to use crafting letters, "deal" is not one of the words they would use, in my opinion.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:10 AM
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43. That was a recent letter from Poppy -- Bush 41. Junior, though, was busy on ENRON's behalf...
...before being assigned pretzeldunce by the NAZI Scalia, little Bush was busting a NAZI move on behalf of Kenny Boy Lay:



Don't Cry for Bush, Argentina

News: George W. may not recall the names of world leaders, but when it comes to foreign affairs, he knows the value of his own family's name.


By Louis Dubose and Carmen Coiro
Mother Jones
March/April 2000 Issue

Texans watched with interest last winter as Governor George W. Bush was home-schooled on international affairs by former Secretary of State George Shultz and other veterans of his father's foreign-policy team. Even Carl Bildt, the former prime minister of Sweden, was brought in for a tutorial at the governor's mansion, in the hope that his recent U.N. experience in the Balkans could help Bush understand that Kosovars are not "Kosavarians" and that Greeks are not "Grecians."

But no one had to prepare a prompt card to remind him who stepped down as president of Argentina in December. Shortly before Bush announced his own campaign for president, he had received a visit from Carlos Saul Menem, the right-wing leader of Argentina for the past decade. The two men retired to an Austin country club, where they were joined by Bush's father. Governor Bush had the flu, so he contented himself with riding along as the former president and Menem played a round of golf.

SNIP...

A few weeks after the U.S. presidential election in 1988, Terragno received a phone call from a failed Texas oilman named George W. Bush, who happened to be the son of the president-elect. "He told me he had recently returned from a campaign tour with his father," the Argentine minister recalls. The purpose of the call was clear: to push Terragno to accept the bid from Enron.

"He was taking a moment to call me because he knew that I was dealing with this," says Terragno, adding that Bush told him that he "viewed with some concern the slow pace of the Enron project." According to Terragno, the president-elect's son noted that a deal with Enron "would be very favorable for Argentina and its relations with the United States."

When a brief report on the attempt to influence the Argentine deal appeared in The Nation and the Texas Observer years later, the Bush team reacted angrily. His staff produced a copy of his day planner to show that Bush never placed the phone call, and a top-level adviser personally called reporters to dismiss the story as a fantasy by "some guy in Argentina." Bush's staff continues to deny his involvement, and no other media outlet ever reported on the episode, despite the high-ranking source.

More than a decade later, Terragno still recalls details of the phone call clearly -- as well as his outrage. "It looked bad and it surprised me," he says. "There was this political endorsement, apparently from the White House. I don't know if George Bush the father was aware of it, or if it was only a business contact by his son, who hoped that his family name would have some influence."

George W. wasn't the only Bush plying the family name in Argentina. His brother Neil had tried to funnel $900,000 in loans from Silverado Savings and Loan, where he served as a director, into a failed attempt to drill for oil in Argentina. The S&L eventually collapsed, costing taxpayers nearly $1 billion to bail out, and federal regulators banned Neil from certain banking activities.

But Terragno was unimpressed by the family connections. He told George W. the pipeline concession would be awarded according to Argentine law. It hardly mattered -- Argentine law was about to change. Time had run out for Raúl Alfonsín. His party lost the election, and he left office four months early to make way for his successor, Carlos Menem.

CONTINUED...

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/03/argentina.html



Oh yeah: "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." -- Benito Mussolini
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:35 AM
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3. Line from "Little Nicky"
"Remember, at four-thirty you shove a pineapple up Hitler's ass!"
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:41 PM
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12. Hope by 'pineapple' they meant 'hand grenade.'
Warmongers deserve it.



What Erasmus Knew (And We Didn’t)

by Jacob Boas
Published on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 by CommonDreams.org

It has been reported that in the summer of 2003 Pentagon employees viewed a special screening of The Battle of Algiers, the late Gillo Pontecorvo’s 1965 classic film of terrorist insurgency and counter insurgency. Presumably the Pentagon’s purpose in showing the film was to help it get a handle on the insurgency in Iraq. (Arguably and however belatedly, the film may have inspired President Bush’s troop “surge.”) Whoever came up with the idea of viewing The Battle of Algiers might have paired it with a reading of On the War against the Turks (1530), a disquisition on the perils of war with Europe’s archenemy by the Dutch humanist and theologian Desiderius Erasmus (c. 1469 - 1536). The year before, the Ottoman armies under Suleiman the Magnificent had stood poised to take Vienna, failing, in the end, thanks to a fortuitous combination of effective defense strategies and unseasonably rainy weather. But despite their seemingly miraculous deliverance, few Europeans believed that they had seen the last of the Turkish host. Anti-Muslim feeling ran deep, and shouts of “‘War on the Turks! War on the Turks!”‘ ran out across Europe.

It was against this backdrop of fear and anxiety that the acclaimed author of The Praise of Folly wrote On the War against the Turks (De Bellum Turco). In it Erasmus, a life-long opponent of war, urged his fellow Christians to think twice before rushing off to war against the Ottoman Turks. “Merely to clamor for war against the Turks,” he wrote, “calling them inhuman monsters, traitors to the Church and a race tainted with all kinds of crime and villainy, is simply to betray the ignorant mob to the enemy.”

Erasmus did not rule out such a war altogether. But if war was to be made - and with the mob howling for Muslim blood, he knew it well might — it was imperative, he stated, “that our intentions be pure and honorable.” Nothing good can come of a war against the Turks, he argued, “if we take up arms without correcting the errors which have provoked God to punish us through their barbaric cruelty.” Among the errors he decried among his Christian contemporaries was a taste for cruelty that was the equal of, if not greater than, that manifested by the enemy. Another was a desire to possess the Turk’s riches and “to rule his subjects,” risking “the danger that we ourselves shall degenerate into Turks rather than bring them into Christ’s fold.”

A further danger of making war on the Turks, Erasmus warned, was that it could serve as a pretext for a “tiny clique” to seize power and use that power to undermine our freedoms, abrogating the rule of law, “removing the authority of parliaments,” and plundering the people, so that by “overthrowing the tyranny of the Turks, … we bring a new and worse tyranny upon ourselves.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/30/1517/



Thanks for understanding Turbine Guy! And now that I understand Adam Sandler a lot better, a regular pineapple might do the trick.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:01 AM
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4. details details.....
George Walker, GW's great-grandfather, set up the takeover of the Hamburg-America Line, a cover for I.G. Farben's Nazi espionage unit in the United States. In Germany, I.G. Farben was most famous for putting the gas in gas chambers; it was the producer of Zyklon B and other gasses used on victims of the Holocaust. The Bush family was not unaware of the nature of their investment partners. They hired Allen Dulles, the future head of the CIA, to hide the funds they were making from Nazi investments and the funds they were sending to Nazi Germany, rather than divest. It was only in 1942, when the government seized Union Banking Company assets under the Trading With The Enemy Act, that George Walker and Prescott Bush stopped pumping money into Hitler's regime.



Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather. According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and US government archives, President George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush made considerable profits off Auschwitz slave labor. In fact, President Bush himself is an heir to these profits from the holocaust which were placed in a blind trust in 1980 by his father, former president George Herbert Walker Bush. (2) On the 20th of October, the government commenced action against the company under the trading with the enemy act. (3) After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal. (4) In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past.(5)

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_family.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:42 PM
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13. China's All-Seeing Eye
This same class of individual is working on ways that will ensure their kind's mastery of mankind well into the future.


China's All-Seeing Eye

With the help of U.S. defense contractors, China is building the prototype for a high-tech police state. It is ready for export.


NAOMI KLEIN
Rolling Stone
Posted May 29, 2008 3:24 PM

EXCERPT...

Now, as China prepares to showcase its economic advances during the upcoming Olympics in Beijing, Shenzhen is once again serving as a laboratory, a testing ground for the next phase of this vast social experiment. Over the past two years, some 200,000 surveillance cameras have been installed throughout the city. Many are in public spaces, disguised as lampposts. The closed-circuit TV cameras will soon be connected to a single, nationwide network, an all-seeing system that will be capable of tracking and identifying anyone who comes within its range — a project driven in part by U.S. technology and investment. Over the next three years, Chinese security executives predict they will install as many as 2 million CCTVs in Shenzhen, which would make it the most watched city in the world. (Security-crazy London boasts only half a million surveillance cameras.)

The security cameras are just one part of a much broader high-tech surveillance and censorship program known in China as "Golden Shield." The end goal is to use the latest people-tracking technology — thoughtfully supplied by American giants like IBM, Honeywell and General Electric — to create an airtight consumer cocoon: a place where Visa cards, Adidas sneakers, China Mobile cellphones, McDonald's Happy Meals, Tsingtao beer and UPS delivery (to name just a few of the official sponsors of the Beijing Olympics) can be enjoyed under the unblinking eye of the state, without the threat of democracy breaking out. With political unrest on the rise across China, the government hopes to use the surveillance shield to identify and counteract dissent before it explodes into a mass movement like the one that grabbed the world's attention at Tiananmen Square.

Remember how we've always been told that free markets and free people go hand in hand? That was a lie. It turns out that the most efficient delivery system for capitalism is actually a communist-style police state, fortressed with American "homeland security" technologies, pumped up with "war on terror" rhetoric. And the global corporations currently earning superprofits from this social experiment are unlikely to be content if the lucrative new market remains confined to cities such as Shenzhen. Like everything else assembled in China with American parts, Police State 2.0 is ready for export to a neighborhood near you.

CONTINUED...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye



What they fear is the Truth. And Justice.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:52 PM
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16. yeah! Thank you for the sneak peek!
I have not gotten my new issue in the mail yet. :)


:yourock:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:20 AM
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5. Know your BFEE-I was surprised to learn, Octafish, that politicians
today could have such extensive links to the nazis. Thanks for your first posting on that.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:48 PM
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14. They are still with us. Fred Malek, f'r instance, works with McSame.
Malek is a veteran of the Nixon White House and worked, if memory serves, with Reagan and Poppy, too.



McCain hires Jew counter.»

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) today announced that fund-raiser Fred Malek had joined his team as a national finance co-chair. David Corn reminds us of Malek’s history in the Nixon administration:

Nixon summoned the White House personnel chief, Fred Malek, to his office to discuss a “Jewish cabal” in the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The “cabal,” Nixon said, was tilting economic figures to make his Administration look bad. How many Jews were there in the bureau? he wanted to know. Malek reported back on the number, and told the President that the bureau’s methods of weighing statistics were normal procedure that had been in use for years.

Among Malek’s other highlights — being arrested as a young man for killing, skinning, and barbecuing a dog.

SOURCE w/ Links: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/04/mccain-hires-jew-counter/



Poppy put NAZIs to work, right on the campaign:



A Fresh Look

Nazis and the Republican Party


by Carla Binion

Investigative reporter Christopher Simpson says in BLOWBACK that after World War II, Nazi émigrés were
given CIA subsidies to build a far-right-wing power base in the U.S. These Nazis assumed prominent positions
in the Republican Party's "ethnic outreach committees." Simpson documents the fact that these Nazis did not
come to America as individuals but as part of organized groups with fascist political agendas. The Nazi agenda
did not die along with Adolf Hitler. It moved to America (or a part of it did) and joined the far right of the
Republican Party.

Simpson shows how the State Department and the CIA put high-ranking Nazis on the intelligence payroll "for
their expertise in propaganda and psychological warfare," among other purposes. The most important Nazi
employed by the U.S. was Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler's most senior eastern front military intelligence officer. After
Germany's defeat became certain, Gehlen offered the U.S. certain concessions in exchange for his own
protection. Gehlen promoted hyped up cold war propaganda on behalf of the political right in this country, and
helped shape U.S. perceptions of the cold war.

Journalist Russ Bellant (OLD NAZIS, THE NEW RIGHT, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY) shows that
Laszlo Pasztor, a convicted Nazi war collaborator, built the Republican émigré network. Pasztor, who served as
adviser to Republican Paul Weyrich, belonged to the Hungarian Arrow Cross, a group that helped liquidate
Hungary's Jews. Pasztor was founding chairman of the Republican Heritage Groups Council.

Two months before the November 1988 presidential election, a small newspaper, Washington Jewish Week,
disclosed that a coalition for the Bush campaign included a number of outspoken Nazis and anti-Semites. The
article prompted six leaders of Bush's coalition to resign.

According to Russ Bellant, Nazi collaborators involved in the Republican Party included:
    1.Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council's executive director, and head of "Bulgarians for Bush." Slavoff was a
    member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust
    denier, Austin App.

    2.Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of "Romanians for Bush."
    Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa.

    3.Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer.

    4.Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime.

    5.Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP's Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi
    groups.

    6.Bohdan Fedorak, leader of "Ukrainians for Bush." Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish
    wartime pogroms.

    CONTINUED...

    http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm




Thanks for understanding, bluesmail. Instead of Edward's hair cut, this stuff really should be on the front page of the paper.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:19 AM
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27. Excellent article K&R n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:34 AM
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6. George Herbert Walker Bush


George Herbert Walker Bush, the presidents father. Bush, as director of the CIA, had funneled enormous amounts of cash to drug runners including Manuel Noriega and helped in the destabilization of Argentina. Bush utilized his own connections to help fund drug runners from Laos to Panama. Most shocking was the so-called "cocaine coup" in Bolivia in June 1980, masterminded by fugitive Nazi Klaus Barbie, "The Butcher Of Lyons." Barbie, who had been previously secreted in Latin America by the CIA, began working closely with the Argentines and used drug money to finance a neo-Nazi cabal, one that succeeded in overthrowing the government. The troops swept through the capital wearing Nazi armbands, according to former DEA agent Mike Levine. George H.W. Bush later facilitated the Iran-contra affair, employing many of the same methods: secretly selling Central American cocaine in America and weapons to Iran while using the profits to fund the contras and to overthrow democratically elected socialists in Central America.(6) as the head of the CIA and later as Vice President, toppled democratically elected regimes in South and Central America and began propping up a dictator by the name of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Although forbidden by congress to do so, he continued to sell chemical and biological weapons to Saddam even after he used them on villages of innocent civilians. A decade later The United States had to go to war against him and the Bush family again, made millions from it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:38 PM
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29. The Bushes and Hitler’s Appeasement (Robert Parry)
Speak of the devil...



The Bushes and Hitler’s Appeasement

By Robert Parry
May 18, 2008

The irony of George W. Bush going before the Knesset and mocking the late Sen. William Borah for expressing surprise at Adolf Hitler’s 1939 invasion of Poland is that Bush’s own family played a much bigger role assisting the Nazis.

If Borah, an isolationist Republican from Idaho, sounded naïve saying “Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided,” then what should be said about Bush’s grandfather and other members of his family providing banking and industrial assistance to the Nazis as they built their war machine in the 1930s?

The archival evidence is now clear that Prescott Bush, the president’s grandfather, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from and collaborated with key financial backers of Nazi Germany.

That business relationship continued after Hitler invaded Poland in 1939 and even after Germany declared war on the United States following Japan’s bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941. It stopped only when the U.S. government seized assets of Bush-connected companies in late 1942 under the “Trading with the Enemy Act.”

So, perhaps instead of holding up Sen. Borah to ridicule, Bush might have acknowledged in his May 15 speech that his forebears also were blind to the dangers of Hitler.

SNIP...

Managers for the Powerful

One can trace the origins of this story back more than a century to the emergence of Samuel Bush, George W. Bush’s great-grandfather, as a key manager for a set of powerful American business families, including the Rockefellers and the Harrimans.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/051808.html



The Smirkelgrüber must be part of the extended family.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:10 PM
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39. wow Robert Parry!
great timing for this article. Thank you!

:hi:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:38 AM
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7. Great Work Once Again Octafish!
The appeasement speech by Dimson opened up so many doors
to allow these connections to be addressed finally.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:43 PM
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30. BUSH'S KNESSET REMARKS AN APPALLING DISPLAY OF HYPOCRISY AND IGNORANCE
From a reporter who's actually won a Peabody (with emPHASis in original)...



BUSH'S KNESSET REMARKS AN APPALLING DISPLAY OF HYPOCRISY AND IGNORANCE

By Bill Gallagher
Niagara Falls Reporter

EXCERPT...

So does this make Bush's granddaddy a Nazi sympathizer and enabler? Not necessarily. It was just business. The Bushes wouldn't let the stigma of being linked to a murderous, totalitarian regime get in their way of making a few (or millions) of dollars. Making money from war and death is genetically ingrained in the Bush family.

Bush did not bother mentioning that little chapter of his family history when he was sucking up to the Israelis. He went on distorting the history of World War II. His suggestion that an earlier military confrontation -- violence, instead of talking -- would have prevented Hitler's aggression does not stand up to even modest scrutiny.

Dubya, no reader of history, tosses out the "appeasement" line devoid of any context or informed perspective. Bush's writers grabbed a slogan used to justify his reckless aggression in Iraq and refusal to talk to the Iranians 70 years after British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain and French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier cut a deal with Hitler in Munich in 1938, which had nothing whatsoever to do with the current geopolitical dynamics of the Middle East.

The "comfort of appeasement" gave Der Fuhrer the green light to march into and seize the Sudetenland, an ethnic German region in Czechoslovakia, thus delaying the inevitable armed conflict with Anglo-Franco forces.

The French and British were ill prepared to challenge Germany militarily, and the memories of the horrors of World War I were still fresh. At the time, there was virtually no public support in those nations for a confrontation. As fashionable as it is to call Chamberlain and Daladier "appeasers" for allowing Hitler to take Czechoslovakia, what could they have done to stop him?

Even when the British and French did stand up to Hitler after the invasion of Poland in 1940, two years after Munich, the Anglo-Franco forces were hopelessly mismatched and the Wehrmacht drove them into the sea.

Historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. wisely noted, "I trust that a graduate student will write a doctoral essay on the influence of the Munich analogy on the subsequent history of the 20th century (and now 21st). Perhaps in the end he will conclude that the multiple errors committed in the name of Munich may exceed the original error of 1938."

CONTINUED...

http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/gallagher364.html



Thanks for understanding, my Friend. Thanks also for giving a damn.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:07 PM
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38. Absolutely correct n/t
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:40 AM
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8. Highly recommended.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:46 PM
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31. Edited Fan Letter from Hell
Here's what I would've written if I had taken a few hours to reflect, BushDespiser12...



A Fan Letter from Hell

Dear George Jr.,

First off, I want to say that I am your biggest and Number-1 total and complete Fan. Ever. From the bottom of my heart and wallet, wherever they are, I want to thank you for all you and your family have done for our sacred Cause.

In the hour of our greatest need, your grandfathers helped finance our Party. They helped us rebuild and re-arm for the coming fight against the Bolsheviks. We couldn't even have imagined starting a war without them.

We also owe your ancestors and their friends an enormous debt for their inspiring work on Eugenics and racial superiority. The human experimentation was really something, too. And to think some believe our scientists came up with that one! Thanks for letting us keep the credit.

Your ancestors and their colleagues helped keep our planes, tanks and ships fueled during the Second Great War. It wasn't easy squeezing petrol out of coal, but we did it. Teamwork. And just like today with so-called "Alternative Energy," Big Oil owns the patents, if not the companies - lock, stock and barrel. Heh heh heh - there's that word again.

Even though things didn't turn out how we wanted, your family and friends' support was there after the war for us, too. Your ancestors and their colleagues welcomed as many of our officers and men as could be exfiltrated to safety and new lives serving the Cause in the West. That's why we never laugh at any joke where the punchline is "military intelligence."

Today, you — and members of your family and friends — continue the work of our sacred Cause. For instance:

Your Department of Justice serves as the Political Action Arm of Karl Rove. Its function: protect and reward friends, punish and destroy enemies. Along with political enemies, you jail drug users. As far as elections go, I can see where you got your ideas for helping push the process along with the Brooks Brothers "Brown Shirt" brigade up there in Florida. You even out your own spies as a warning to truth-tellers. We would just shoot them in our time, but in yours they must serve a higher purpose. That’s some Department of Just-Us. It is good to laugh, as well as to "move on."

Your excellent Domestic Policies have not merely left no child behind, you have left an entire nation of rabble behind. “De-regulation” coupled with your fiscal policies have served the interests of the monied class to the exclusion of the masses, including your bourgoise middle classes. Your Trickle-Down, Flood-Up policies have served to nearly bankrupt the United States Treasury and enrich your family and supporters’ accounts in the Caymans and Switzerland. Reverse-Robin Hood came in the disguise Tax Cuts that serve to lower the common person’s standard of living in the short- and long-terms. I must say the way you ignored the cries for help from the people of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina was most devilish. Perhaps, best of all for the future, you have de-funded public education and funded Pentagon propaganda. Good thing you can keep printing those I.O.U.s to the dictators running China and Saudi Arabia.

In the field of Foreign Affairs you also show your true colors. “With us or against us” pretty much tells the world: “Fear Us. Support Us. Do what we Order. Or Die.” In the case of Iraq — a nation innocent of any role in the attacks of September 11 and posing no threat of any kind, let alone WMDs, to your country — you manufactured evidence of a threat and manipulated public opinion to support an illegal and immoral invasion and occupation. In the process, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women and children have died. The cost in commas: the lives of more than 4,000 of your nation’s finest men and women and the health of untold thousands more. As a highlight, you more than quadrupled the price of oil, creating unimaginable wealth for your family and friends. "Money trumps peace." It sure does. Especially in these circles.

You must have learned the value of war from your terrestrial father. When he was in the Oval Office, his Operation JUST CAUSE in Panama killed 2,000 people who had nothing to do with Manuel Noriega’s CIA-affiliated drug pushing. Still, the guy was a witness and had to go. In Baghdad, Poppy's acting ambassador to Iraq gave a green light to Saddam Hussein, who then ordered his army to invade Kuwait. Then your dad's minions doctored satellite photographs in order to sell the lie to Saudi Arabia that they were next. In the process, oil prices and his Q-numbers went up like a V-2. Inspired! It also gave your Poppy all the excuse he needed to declare an end to the "VietNam Syndrome" and gun-boat-shy international policies his fellows' actions had created. With his work with Luis Posada Carriles on behalf of Operation CONDOR and who knows what else, I can see where you got your War on Terror creds.

Those were the days. And, thanks to you and yours, these are, as well. Truly, no one has brought together our two communities like your family and friends. Wish I had time to write more. The smell of sulfur means its time to get back to The Pit. Before I go, though, I must say:

No one has done more to harm America than you. Not Stalin. Not Mao. Not even all the dim-witted Kings of England. Not even me. You. You, George Walker Bush. You! You have done more to damage the Constitution and the safety, welfare and happiness of “We the People.” No one has done more to imperil human life on planet Earth. You are the Beast.

Thank you from the bottom of the space in my chest where my heart, I am told, used to be,

Yours in Eternity,

Uncle Adolf





The BFEE makes me very angry and I want them to stop ASAFP.

Thanks for giving a damn, my Friend!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:39 PM
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11. Big K & R !!!
:kick:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:34 PM
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32. Hitler's bodyguards lived on ships partly owned by Prescott Bush.


SS Albert Belin, ca. 1923.

Common thread seems to be an appreciation for the finer things...



China set used by Adolf Hitler’s bodyguard is up for auction

By Lucy Cockroft
Last updated: 6:47 AM BST 14/05/2008

An ornate china dinner service used by Adolf Hitler’s elite bodyguard is expected to fetch £1,000 at auction.

Nazi guards would eat their meals served on the 30-piece set as they travelled incognito on the Hamburg-American shipping line, protecting Hitler against communist attack.

All the plates and dishes carry the symbol of the “Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler” (LAH), the name of the elite guard, in elaborate gold lettering. They would only be used in the guard’s private quarters.

The Leibstandarte-SS lived in comfort on board the ships, which were partly owned by George W Bush’s great grandfather, Prescott Bush, often posing as passengers or crew.

The china set was made by Hutschenreuther, a family firm, in a classic 1930s flo-blue style with gold edging, Nordic signs and a north-star pattern.

It was believed to have been used on board the SS Albert Ballin, built by Blohm and Voss, Hamburg, in 1922 for the Hamburg-American Line.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1954072/China-set-used-by-Adolf-Hitlerandrsquos-bodyguard-is-up-for-auction.html



Thank you for appreciating history and how it ties to the present day, WillyT!

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:52 PM
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15. BRAVO!
Well stated.

Well written.

K&R

Thanks Octafish.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:26 AM
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44. WWII veteran Nazi interrogators denounced Bush’s Torture techniques
Wish I'd mentioned this sign of NAZI behavior:



WWII veteran Nazi interrogators denounced Bush’s Torture techniques

Will Limbaugh call these men “phony soldiers?”


By: John Amato on Sunday, October 7th, 2007 at 2:05 PM - PDT

For six decades, they held their silence.

The group of World War II veterans kept a military code and the decorum of their generation, telling virtually no one of their top-secret work interrogating Nazi prisoners of war at Fort Hunt.

“We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture,” said Henry Kolm, 90, an MIT physicist who had been assigned to play chess in Germany with Hitler’s deputy, Rudolf Hess.

”During the many interrogations, I never laid hands on anyone,” said George Frenkel, 87, of Kensington. “We extracted information in a battle of the wits. I’m proud to say I never compromised my humanity.”…read on

BushCo. and the Republican Congress will always be known as the “Party of Torture.” Their pundits as well are a disgrace to the American flag that they wrap themselves around in everyday…

SOURCE w Links: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/07/wwii-veteran-nazi-interrogators-denounced-bushs-torture-techniques/



Thank you, Gilligan! Really appreciate that you understand what we're up against.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:11 PM
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17. I'd rec this a hundred times if I could
Edited on Sun May-18-08 05:25 PM by formercia
At least Napoleon was smart enough to retreat from Moscow before the brunt of Winter set in. No matter that few of his men ever made it home.

I worked with an ex Waffen SS captain from the Vienna Division that fought on the Eastern Front. Only a hand full from that Division ever made it back.

He was tried and convicted at Nuremberg but the US Government brought him to this country, gave him a job, just because he "had fought the Soviets." He was supposedly a source of intelligence, so he got a 'get out of jail free' card.

Every Year, he would celebrate Hitler's birthday and was unrepentant, even to his grave.

His favorite punch line: "Und zen ve get 'dem mit 'de 88's"
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:17 PM
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18. It's not often that I get to fill in a blank that you missed, Octafish.
Because you don't miss much. Plus, I suspect you know it and just forgot to lump it in with your post, so many treasons and aspects to the Bushie-Nazi Alliance.

But let us not forget this, too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3187506

Actually, as I see your name on this Googled reference, it is quite clear you do know about this.

Dagnabbit, I was all excited to stump the Octafish.

But I should have known. You have forgotten more information about Bushie crimes and treasons than I know about.

Keep up the good work!

:toast:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:40 PM
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20. Whoa. I never heard of the "Puerto Rican experiments" before
You're amazing, Octafish. You're a National Treasure.

K&R for another great post.
:thumbsup:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:49 PM
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21. K&R. Pure Genius.
Bravo Octafish

:pals: :yourock:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:58 PM
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22. Mike Huckabee signals his approval.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:01 PM
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23. ((((((Octafish))))) No one rocks here as much as you do!!!!
:loveya:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:30 PM
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24. Outstanding!
:applause:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:18 PM
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25. HOW DID I MISS THIS?
I guess I was busy doing some house work

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:37 PM
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34. holy crap!
Is that for real? :crazy:

Hiya sweetie! :hi:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:04 PM
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26. that's pretty brilliant.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:08 AM
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28. kr
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:36 PM
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33. Please allow me to introduce myself. I'm a man of wealth and taste.
I wish I knew how to post a photo of chimpy here.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:50 PM
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35. & you're the 1st President to have a male hooker lob softball questions to him at press conferences.
We'll always be grateful for that.
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JfortheDonks Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:54 PM
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36. Love Your Honesty & Truthfulness!
Lol! You rock, Octafish!!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:59 PM
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37. This is brilliant Octafish
Kick -wish I could recommend
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:28 PM
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40. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours
Sorry I missed this one, Octafish. Great compilation and appropriate context. If it talks like a Nazi, gestures like a Nazi, acts like a Nazi and invests in the Nazis, it's a no-brainer. :patriot:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:43 AM
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41. Kick!!!!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:55 AM
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42. kicking again today
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:45 PM
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45. Kick
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