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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:43 PM
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The silliness that is the IGNORE button


I find it all pretty funny to follow the latest trend among some of my DU colleagues, the trend to bragging of having huge numbers of their fellow travelers on IGNORE. All because of ........... a disagreement on some point or another or some support of one or another candidate. Its thoroughly entertaining to watch them reply to a comment they disagree with by informing that person that they are now going to be IGNORED.

On several levels, this is a hoot.

First, *as if* the threat of being IGNORED by **you** has some meaning to the ignoree's life.

Oh :snap: ...... I'm ignored. How will I survive? How will I feed my family?

Second, the apparent belief that ignoring what is being said somehow makes it ...... what .... ? ..... unsaid? :shrug:

Isn't that what kids do when Mommy says no to the new toy they want? Or that candy they shouldn't have? Or the object lesson that really needs to be taught? Stick their fingers in their ears and chant blubbablubbablubbablubba ............ ?

Thirdly, how liberal is it to practice censorship?

Fourth, How silly is it to practice censorship that only affects you and causes you to move closer than ever to a Bush-like infobubble where all you hear is what you want to hear? I thought part of being liberal - dare I say it? even 'progressive' - is being intensely interested in all opinions, particularly opinions in opposition to one's own thinking.

The IGNORE button, it seems to me, is for the purpose of shutting out one or two people who you know to be pests. Lots of people have never had anyone on IGNORE. I have had a grand total of four, but never more than two at one time. And currently I have none. As has been the case for quite some time now. It seems to me that if you have scores, or in some extreme cases of the real trend setters here in River City, if their crowing is to be believed, hundreds of fellow travelers on IGNORE, the wielder of the IGNORE button is the one with the problem. Not those lucky enough to be in the august body known as THE IGNORED.

IGNORE is related to ignorant. Just a thought.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:50 PM
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1. The only people whom ever made it to my ignore list were just a$$hatters who delighted in wasting
my time with regurgitated BS.
I do not have time to deal with every ditto head that wants to rehash the same old shit.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:51 PM
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2. It's for the cowards, the weak and the ignorant. Many say that they can't control
themselves, and they are forced to read something that scares or bothers them. Don't these people have any control of their eyes or their

mind? Why come for discussion when all you can feel safe with is the cheer leading of your point of view?

I try and find these people, many of them are proud of their ability to hide "others", and I invite them to add me to their list. I know

that I will be on that type of person's list eventually.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:59 PM
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6. you are SOOOOO the enlightened one. I'm envious.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:03 PM
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10. Welcome to ignore.




LOL!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:20 PM
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50. It's REALLY interesting, I have 4 people on ignore...
And whoever it was that you're replying to is on that list. It takes repeated ridiculous hateful posts to end up on my ignore list. Clearly whoever that is does that often.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:37 PM
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59. Looks like you made a good call
asSEENonTV (1000+ posts) Sun May-18-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. you are SOOOOO the enlightened one. I'm envious.


And that is the entire post.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:56 PM
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3. Never Used It But Admit To Being Tempted On Occasion
Then again, I'm tempted to obliterate idiots on occasion too but always restrain myself.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:57 PM
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4. If you have a problem with the functionality of DU or its options, PM the admins.
Its an option - your calling out people who use it lowers you to, well, about the level as people who mass ignore everyone who doesn't share their view.

Its a useful option to avoid harassment and spam.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:05 PM
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11. Hehehehe
I don't have a problem ..... but thanks for the lesson on how to complain on DU. I NEVER would have thought to PM the admins.

You're so smart.

:eyes:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:58 PM
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5. I think it is JUST because of the primaries..I have no one on ignore..but then I do NOT post in GD-P
so I recon I am safe? I like how you stated: "Oh :snap: ...... I'm ignored. How will I survive? How will I feed my family?"

I used to say that about my dancing...I 'felt' like I danced like Janet Jackson, only to discover I 'really' danced like Elaine on Seinfeld, but I could not care less cause the onlookers did not pay my rent nor purchase my food, so I kept on dancing (in the old days)!!!
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:59 PM
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7. I used it
before GD P was split off and I am glad I did. The bile being spewed was making my perusal of this site very unpleasant. Why should I waste my time reading blithering "does not/does too, is not/is too" back and forth posts?
Most of the people who were on tmy short list are now tombstoned.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:39 PM
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67. I have those special kind of ignores from WAY BACK because of verbal attacks.
Admins put 'em there and I was told that they only do this for very serious infractions. I can't do anything about it except apologize. I really meant no harm. If I had my 'druthers, I would have no one on that list now.

Cordially,

Radio Lady
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:46 PM
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82. Radio Lady
Edited on Sun May-18-08 07:47 PM by Mojorabbit
:hug:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:15 PM
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99. Back at you Mojorabbit.... hugs acceptable anytime.
:hug:

Just remember, tomorrow morning, I'll be working in a horse stall with a shovel. Welcome to the world of volunteering with animals.

When I get home in the afternoon, I won't need any more SH** from the DU!

Thanks, I appreciate it...

RL Ellen

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:03 PM
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8. I think I put one person on ignore once...
But when I saw the ignore posts, it drove me crazy not knowing what was being said...

lol.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:11 PM
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15. Hahahaha
I had that **same** problem.

IGNORE never worked well for me. For a while I would go to my IGNORE list and take the two people off it, one by one, to see who was posting what and then go back and put them in it again. After a week or so of THAT stupidity, I took them off the list.

Of the four who ever made it my list, only two are genuine DU members (with whom I still vehemently disagree) and two wound up with granite slabs.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:52 PM
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70. Yes, yes, yes. LOL. "Curiosity killed the cat..."
:rofl:
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:13 PM
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79. Me too
I no longer have anyone on ignore. It's kind of like yelling at the TV. I do have to admit that when I see a few names I don't read their posts.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:03 PM
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9. I use "Ignore" liberally . . .
life's too short to willfully subject yourself to "kiddie scorn". . .

I've never blocked anyone who intelligently debated me, but I'll not suffer fools gladly or madly.

Mostly its simple stupidity I wish to avoid -- drunken fools, whacked-out conspiracy nuts ("BushCo caused the tsunami"), one-note wonders who post the same drivel over and over. . . Other people may choose what they perceive as the "high road" of tolerance and community, but I've no time for blithering foolishness and no interest in useless poppycock. Some will disagree but I figure they must have a surplus of life.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:50 PM
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69. Yeah whatever...
:hi:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:58 PM
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72. Ah, and the only one who responds is on my ignore list. . .
probably a comment pointless and banal . . .
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:53 PM
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83. Actually, it wasn't.
:-)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:07 PM
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12. Never used it, never will.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:08 PM
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13. How ironic! I had YOU on my ignore list. Must be because of nonsense like this.
I bet you have posted this before. Let me answer again: to ignore or not to ignore is a personal choice and it is not up to you to call anyone silly or ignorant who uses it or to put them down. Censorship? What a joke to apply it to ignore. People have their own personal reasons for using "ignore" and for me, you are certainly proof of it. Democrats are about choice and this is a personal choice, but evidently it is a thorn in your side to the point that you feel the need to post a rant about it. I have read of some good DUers who have gotten deep-sixed because they got sucked into something with someone they would have been better off ignoring.

Life is too short, so back on my ignore list you go. (To think, had I not been logged in I would have seen this post.)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:14 PM
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18. .
:rofl:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:09 PM
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14. This "ignore" in teh lounge absolutely cracked me up...
Edited on Sun May-18-08 02:21 PM by madinmaryland
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
25. Now I can see why
Nomad1776 put you on ignore in the first place.


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
30. You just can't let sleeping dogs lie can you?
pathetic:eyes:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:06 PM
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48. Dude! That really was a lounge classic.
There was no way any of us in teh lounge could know that you were having one of those days. It took you until that evening to say you had had a few rough days.

And if you see something that someone says that annoys you just leave it alone.

:hi:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:52 PM
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61. You know there are good people and bad people in the world
What category do you think people that get their jollies annoying over worked people? I am curious, do you do it as a sad cry for attention or because you just love to piss people off? It's clear you are proud of what you do. Frankly I see little difference between you and the teenage troll.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:37 PM
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94. So apparently i'm a bad, bad boy...
:spank:

How the fuck did i or anyone else here know that you were having a bad day, until you mentioned it after trying to rip a few new assholes??

:shrug:

And yeah, I'm a "pathetic" mother fucker who enjoys tweaking overwound little shits like you who don't understand the meaning of CHILL OUT, until they have a fucking ulcer.

:wow:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:14 PM
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16. It's One of Those Things You Should Do Without Advertising It, IMO
There have been so many disruptors on all sides in GD: P that it's necessary. Bragging about it, though, or how many you have on your list has about as much class as patting oneself on the back for not using it.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:14 PM
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17. i've used the ignore button for a few DU'ers
They have said cruel hurtful things towards me, simply because I expressed an opinion that they didn't approve. In the guns forum, where the environment can become very toxic, one person kept responding to my posts with great venom, even taking the trouble to cite my past posts to prove her "point" -- that's just creepy.

I'm a sensitive person, and unprovoked personal attacks are upsetting. Call it a character flaw or personal weakness, but I use the ignore button to protect myself. There's enough stress from the real world, and I don't need more of it from idiots at DU.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:48 PM
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68. Hi Shireen... I know what you mean about citing past posts.
I had that used on me by <[unmentionable DUers>] last week. What was interesting was that some of my archived posts were LOCKED because they became too hostile all the way around. I didn't think you could copy a link to a locked thread. Obviously, that's not true.

But my choice now is simple. If I just walk away and don't respond, sometimes that's the best voice of all. Plain disdain and apathy are better than another outburst.



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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:15 PM
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19. "how liberal is it to practice censorship?" I don't have time to listen to everyone in the world.
We all practice censorship. Do you truly listen to everyone who wants to talk with you, every time, all the time?

Sometimes I like to talk with people who have the same values as me, and ignore the rest.

Just a thought.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:15 PM
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20. I only use it if someone is wont to say hateful things
Or spams with an identical message constantly even out of GDP.

I will not put up with posters that are blatantly sexist, racist or homophobic. I have to listen to that shit coming out of people in the grocery store line. I shouldn't have to tolerate that here.

And spam, well, it's just spam. I ignore spam in my e-mail account. Why, again, should I not ignore it here?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:34 PM
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27. I started doing that as well.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 02:35 PM by lwfern
If I wanted to hear sexist racist homophobic crap, I could read FR. Or keep everyone's posts here visible.

I don't see why we cheer each other on when we shut off Fox News, and then argue that we're close minded and childish if we refuse to read that kind of tripe here. It's exactly the same in my mind. I don't feel the need to be so "liberal" and open to different (sexist, racist, homophobic) ideas that I want to read FR. I'll add xenophobic as well, that's a whole other category of hate I see on DU.

Being on the left does not equal being interested in hearing people spew bigotry, or hearing people support policies that oppress minorities.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. You are right.
And I was rattling off the cuff and forgot xenophobia, but I have seen that here too.

It shocks me that democrats could be any of those things openly (or even secretly) in this day and age. It seems to be the antithesis of that big tent that we are all supposed to be under.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:21 PM
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21. Waaah. I disagree with you. You are going on ignore immediately. That is all.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 02:23 PM by Zorra
Just kidding.
;-)
I would never put anyone on ignore.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:23 PM
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22. I use ignore for the same reason I don't visit certain websites - waste of time
I don't read through the crazy comment flamewars on my local newspaper's website - waste of time.

The people I have on ignore here are the ones who post extremely offensive stuff, repeatedly post stuff that's not factual, attack other posters, seem to lack logic, etc. There are people on that list who support Clinton, Obama, or neither. I'm sure many of them are tombstoned (I alert on new trolls, sometimes comment, stick them on ignore, move on)

I come here to learn. If people are clearly here to raise blood pressures and attack rather than share ideas, why should I wade through their junk? Life's too short for that.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:23 PM
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23. My reason for ignore
I have 3 people on ignore. I only did this after I was being harassed by one of these people who would search for any post I made and then tell me how wrong I am and how stupid and how blah-dee-blah - ignorant I am - it was like being in an abusive relationship. It got to the point where I had to do something to keep from writing something mean and aggressive and I did not want to knowingly break the rules I had agreed to when I signed up here. The other two people I have on ignore are there for very good reasons - One likes to post "Welcome to my pity-party" OPs - I do not even want to know what their latest tragedy/trauma/mind-numbingly inappropriate bullshit crapola moment is happening in their life that should never be posted on a political blog in the first place. and the other person? That one is evil. I have been tempted to put others on ignore but then I would miss out on the countless posts which repeat the same points time after time... (after time.)

Why would I put everyone who does not agree with me on Ignore? It is so pleasant here.:shrug:
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:27 PM
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24. Finally, somebody saying what I have been thinking.....Not only silly but indicative of.....
....poor or non-existent debating skills.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:28 PM
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26. I finally put two people on ignore this week to prevent me
from taking their baited taunts which might get me banned.


First time I have ever done it. I will take them off probably next Tuesday.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:39 PM
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28. I wish I had an Ignore button IRL.
I could avoid the willfully ignorant. sigh.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:41 PM
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29. I have exactly one on ignore
I found it helps keep my blood pressure down and I have fun seeing threads with long heated exchanges that I can only read half of.

-Hoot

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:53 PM
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32. A lot of people have a misguided view of what "free speech" is.
Free speech doesn't mean that you are guaranteed a forum to air your views, nor does it mean that I have to listen to them. Furthermore, DU is a private website and it's the owners' prerogative to determine what constitutes appropriate behavior. Additionally, paying members get certain privileges, such as the ignore function (I assume it's a privilege for donors though it may be for everyone) that enable them to make their experience here more enjoyable. So I don't regard it as censorship for mods to delete certain posts or for members to put other members on ignore. As for it leading to a Bush-like bubble, apart from my belief that comparing something like that to "Bushie" behavior is utter hyperbole, I also don't think that I have to repeatedly expose myself to ideas that I've already considered, and rejected, in order to be an open-minded person. Nor should I have to be confronted by halfwitted spammers and trolls, both of the regular and "concern" variety, in order to expose myself to a variety of opinions and thought. There are people on here whom I've disagreed with vehemently, but I'd never put them on ignore because they also happen to be brilliant and I'd hate to miss their insights. There are others who have nothing to contribute to GD-P but the same old tired talking points and red herrings.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. "Free speech doesn't mean that you are guaranteed a forum to air your views"
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:17 PM
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40. Again, you are confusing public and private space.
Yes, Stinky, you can stand on the street corner and shout invective at the government. Yes, you can (or should) be able to protest in public. But no, you don't get to stand in my living room or in my private place of business and do it.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. You can use
the ignore feature without paying.


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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:59 PM
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34. I find it extremely amusing when...
..a person finds someone they ignored in a thread, and then feels the need to point out that they can't read what that person wrote. :eyes:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:00 PM
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35. I look at it a little differently
and as a place to put people who just can't help being patronizing, vindictive, nasty, or just plain mean.

Once means they're having a bad day. Twice means the beginning of a bad habit. Thrice and I hit the button.

The good news about DU is that my ignore list is a very short one. Most of the people on it are now among the departed, may they rest in pieces.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:15 PM
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39. Indeed.
It's a time-saver for folks you know will be gone in a bit. Identifying disruptive behavior is a nuanced act.

The ignore button, used sparingly, lets me see how in-line I still am with the Mods. My record's pretty good. :)
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #35
71. I, however, am still alive and well.
:-)
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:10 PM
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38. The ignore button isn't censorship
it's redundant for me though, since I have a natural, built-in ignore feature that works very well. Too well, sometimes... or at least that's what my SO says :P.

Live and let live, I say. If people want to ignore certain posters, or certain threads, leave them to it. We're not all alike, and the world would be a hell of a dull place if we were. It'd also be a lot more peaceful and friendly place if more of us were capable of accepting that simple reality.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:19 PM
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41. most of the people on my list are people i suspect of getting paid to be here.
not gonna make some pooflinger's life easier by sinking to their level. unfortunately, i am the kind of person who has a hard time ignoring blatant propaganda, and insults to my candidate. if i don't see it in the first place, i am not tempted. it is the only way that i can stay here without blood pressure medication.
as soon as it is all over, i will dump my whole list. but for now, i am just not going to contribute to hillary's campaign by buying into the bullshit.
i think maybe you are a little too fond of jumping in for your own good. ;-)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:27 PM
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51. "i think maybe you are a little too fond of jumping in for your own good."
I think you're right.

At least I can say I am ignored equally by both camps! :)
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:53 PM
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55. it's not that i shrink from a fight, i just don't
have the freakin' time.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:20 PM
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42. I never used it until about 3 months ago.
Since then, I usually have abut a dozen people on it. Some get tombstoned, and more usually get added to take their places. The only ones I have on ignore are those who continually post juvenile, insulting things about cults, call people names, use terms like Obamabot rampantly (not just occasionally), etc. They really contribute nothing useful to discussion, so why would I want their garbage cluttering up the forum? Other than those, I don't want a lot of people on ignore, even when they piss me off, because I don't like to have a lot of stuff getting posted without having the opportunity to dispute or disprove it. I hate to see anti-Obama posts go unchallenged.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:24 PM
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43. I put two types of posters on ignore.
1. Posters who unapologetically support corporatist free trade and offshore outsourcing to the point where they believe it's part of a natural economic cycle, no big deal and opposing it borders on xenophobia. Yes, they DO exist on this site. Often times, they don't last long.

I'm sorry, but there are some issues that are deal-breakers for me, and that's one of them. That isn't at all a Democratic position. AT ALL. I've talked to far too many people in person, on this site and others who fell victim to this unfortunate practice; even those who've suffered the indignity of training their own replacement. I'm not about to entertain the suggestion that destroying one middle class to help/lift another is sound economic policy. That's bullshit.

2. Curmudgeonly finger-wagging flamethrowers who consistently contribute nothing to the discussion and continually get away with flaming others (see: 9/11 forum. I'm a Paul Thompson MIHOPer and resent the implication that there's something wrong with me because of this belief) despite multiple alerts by yours truly. When nothing is done about it, it becomes a distraction which you have to take into your own hands. That isn't being weak; it's called "clean-up".
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:24 PM
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44. I've no one on ignore.
I'd never dream of putting you on ignore. You're far too entertaining.

:hi:
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needledriver Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:26 PM
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45. I have only one
person on my Ignore list. I did it to avoid reading his posts, because they are invariably annoying. However, all the responses to his posts (and there are many, because I am not the only one he annoys) are still visible.

BTW putting someone on Ignore isn't censorship - it's filtering. You are not preventing him from speaking. You are simply choosing to avoid his blathering rants. That's not tyranny, it's discretion.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:26 PM
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46. the silliness is in the REPORTING of ignore, not the USE of ignore
USING ignore is a reasonable way to edit content for your own enjoyment.
if there's someone you're simply tired of and/or have found too predictable, it can help weed out threads you wouldn't be interested in anyway.

ANNOUNCING that you're putting someone on ignore is an entirely different thing, and yes, i agree. your picture speaks 1000 words and is spot on. it's the web equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and announcing, "i can't hear you, la la la la la!"


once upon a time, it was against the rules to announce you were putting someone on ignore. now you can make such an announcement, provided you actually do put the person on ignore. i wasn't a party to that decision and so can't comment on the logic, but i will say i remain skeptical of its merit.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:31 PM
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52. You've said, far more succinctly and with a more reasoned tone ....
.... the most fundamental essence of what I meant in my OP.

Thank you!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:34 PM
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54. and thank YOU for that picture!
:rofl:

:hi:
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:50 PM
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60. Aha! So you admit that you're a fundamentalist!
;-)
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:29 PM
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47. What's more silly are threads celebrating the tombstoning of those the poster has on ignore. n/t
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:17 PM
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49. I have always used the "ignore" function
to keep myself from saying something I might regret further down the line. When I've put a person on ignore, it means that I'm about ready to blow up at a comment someone has made to me personally, something that isn't quite a calling out, but close enough to one that I might end up banned myself for letting go of my temper.

I always get over it, most of the time within a week, but at that precise moment I am overcome by a major compulsion to grab another poster by the neck and pummel them into the ground. Since I can't always turn the other cheek so to speak, I cut off someone by cutting off myself instead.

It's not the best solution, but it happens, and it's one of the reasons I no longer go into GDP--there are too many shoutfests in there to trigger an unplanned attack of rage, and I don't want to make enemies of people I've known on the board for some time.

I'm not really much of a screamer or hollerer, though, and only occasionally do I find the need to put someone on ignore for these reasons, but in the end, I am grateful that I can do it in order to hold myself in check.

:)
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:34 PM
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53. I'm not ignorant; I use the ignore button to preserve my sanity.
And I don't consider it censorship; they are still free to say whatever they want. I'm free of being exposed to their vitriol (and yes, it's my perception, but that doesn't make me wrong). It would be censorship if, by putting someone on ignore, it prevented them from posting at all.

As to whether it hurts their feelings, I doubt it. I'm not really doing it TO THEM; I put them on ignore FOR MYSELF.

Once we have a solid presumptive nominee (that is, once the Admins decide we do, based on their rules about the primaries), I'm sure I'll be removing most of them. And I'm sure that won't make any difference to them either.

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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:56 PM
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56. who would be so offended by words on the internet(s)
it's beyond me how people get upset over words typed.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:01 PM
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57. Never used it, never will
it's juvenile.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:34 PM
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58. Taking the idea a bit far, aren't you?
In principle I don't much like the ignore function and in the years I've been here I've almost never used it, at most for a day or few at a time and normally not more than one person at a time and even that was rare. Today though I have eight and personally I consider those eight a good use of the list. Not opinions I didn't like, I could hear those same opinions more intelligently put and argued by any one of dozens of others on this board. What made the list was Jr High levels of debate with a matching need to insult and belittle in order to make any point. Free used of terms and tactics such as waaahmbulance and others of the sort offer nothing and simply annoyed me. If I want to argue with a 14 year old I've got one of my own at home and could borrow more from neighbors.

The use aside, it's no more censorship to ignore someone than it is to choose not watch FOX news or than it is to close the window so you don't have to listen to the crows screech outside. They are still making the same noise and anyone who wants to listen is more than welcome to, you just made a personal choice to change the channel or otherwise ignore it. Censorship is silencing another, not simply choosing not to listen to them.

For me it was a choice that kept my temper more even and helped to remind me that it's more a few noisy freaks who were giving the Clinton fans a bad name, shut them out and many of the rest were more reasonable than it seemed with them lost behind and blending in with the crows. When the campaign is over and the crows fade back into whatever woodwork they popped out of the list, small as it is at just 8 members, goes away too.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:58 PM
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62. I find it humorous when someone asks what someone whom they have 'ignored' wrote


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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:03 PM
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63. If the thing that was written is good, then it can provoke...
someone to say, "Welcome to the list of people who are no longer on my ignore list"!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:26 PM
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64. i'll brag i do NOT put people on ignore. got something to say to me, ...
i will listen. i always listen. may not agree, but dont take personally what another may say to me
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:30 PM
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65. The ignore function rocks on toast with a lemon twist.
That being said, in my five-ish years here at DU I've put a grand total of six people on ignore, four of which went on to eat the granite pizza.

Consistent and unmitigated rudeness is about the only thing that will get you on my ignore list. Some people are just asshats.
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:33 PM
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66. I have one individual on ignore
Go figure, without exception when I see that black "Ignored" in a thread, the responses to the messages I don't see indicate that this disruptor serves no purpose here other then to antagonize other people to inflate his own sense of self-worth.


The Ignore feature is great and I use it when necessary. Heck, you've used it, are you insinuating we're ignorant in some way?

Bonus game - I wonder how many people can guess who I have on ignore?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:58 PM
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73. "guess who I have on ignore"
Well, I imagine that the admins get some sense of self-worth from DU. Am I warm?
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:11 PM
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78. Surprisingly...
...he hasn't popped up on this thread...YET.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:02 PM
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76. "Heck, you've used it, are you insinuating we're ignorant in some way?"
Actually, no. Reasonable use of the function is ....... well ...... reasonable. And almost all in this thread who copped to using it have reasonable reasons for so doing.

Its the people who have scores (or more) on IGNORE at any point who I represented in the picture in my OP.

I can't begin to guess who you have on IGNORE.
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:13 PM
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80. I gotcha
I don't know how one would go about putting those they disagree with on ignore, even in this primary season you gotta realize emotions are running high. Aside from that, some people like to simply get a rise out of other people and resort to name calling in capital letters.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:14 PM
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81. I'd be surprise if anyone had "scores" on ignore
...But I've been wrong before. :shrug:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:32 PM
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84. One copped to four score, right in this thread
Go figure.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:59 PM
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74. The people that ignore me are usually trolls or DU's most sanctimonious
Hey y'all! What's shakin'? :hi:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:01 PM
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75. I currently have roughly 80 on my ignore list.
I was going to release all but 2 this evening simply because GD-P has calmed down a lot lately.

This thread annoys me. I'm not sure how to handle it. I can either forget my decision to release the zombies from their graves, carry on unheeded, or simply add one more out of spite.

One thing is certain -- I have grown very weary of the daily complaining about the behavior on GD-P.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:33 PM
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85. *snort*
I'm sorry .... that just slipped out.

:rofl:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #85
86. Yeah, well, suck it back in.
And save the fucking lectures for people who give a shit about what you have to say.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:47 PM
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87. .
:spray:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:51 PM
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88. No, Chumly. I won't put you on my ignore list.
You simply are not that important. Sorry.

And, despite your best efforts to be a total prick, I went forward with my previous plans and removed every damned name from my Ignore list.

Waddya gonna do? You don't even have anything to bitch about anymore.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:58 PM
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89. w
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F

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:01 PM
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90. Oh. So attention is your one and only quest.
I won't grant it. You have the last word.

Or smiley.

Or acronym.

You deserve it.

Have a good one.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:08 PM
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91. Buh bye
Thanks for Flying Stinky Airways. See ya on the flip side.

:hi:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:04 PM
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77. I save it for occasions when someone feels the
need to get personal and resorts to name calling rather than keeping the comments civil and on topic. I am happy to debate ideas. I am not going to stick around, however, and be a cyber punching bag. My current ignore list has 6 people on it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:21 PM
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92. Call me a silly ignorant coward, then.
I have no interest in maintaining a relationship with vile, homophobic trolls, for example.

If that is "censorship" so be it. My online experience is much more pleasant without seeing what idiocy is crossing these boobs minds at any given moment.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:34 PM
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93. greetings....


....I don't 'ignore' anyone....
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:41 PM
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95. Now that I don't go to GD-P any more I very seldom need Iggy as a blood-pressure valve....
Basically it's for people who instead of engaging the argument attack in some particularly nasty manner. Until this year I don't think I ever used it at all. After the Convention, I expect to not need it again.

Hekate

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:47 PM
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96. i have no one on ignore but you know there are posters here who have been harassed
via pm, some ugly stuff too so not everyone has people on ignore because they disagree with them on issues, many times it's because someone escalates political disagreements to full on stalker like behavior. You might want to use a narrower brush next time you make fun of posters who have to put certain posters on ignore.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:11 PM
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97. Actually, the OP was a far narrower brush than you're imagining.
From the opening of the OP's next-to-last paragraph: "The IGNORE button, it seems to me, is for the purpose of shutting out one or two people who you know to be pests."

The pests you describe are worse than I imagined, but still under the category of pest. They **are** what IGNORE is for.

People crowing about having scores on their IGNORE list is the entertaining part.

There is a difference.

And it was acknowledged.

I have not heard of stalkers. Has this gone beyond the point of annoyance?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:14 PM
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98. for some it has, i had no idea this kind of stuff even happened here but it does.
i know more than a few posters that have been harassed by someone, i actually was once as well but i just sent the pm's i got right to the admins, i wasn't the only person this one poster was a total stalker douchebag and i didn't get near the worst of it.

You'd be surprised what goes on her in the pm part of du. I was.
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