BUSHCO's 'Secret List Of 8 million UNFRIENDLY American Citizens' To Be Detained Under Martial Law

[kpete]

The Last Roundup
Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?

By Christopher Ketcham

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php

The Continuity of Governance program encompasses national emergency plans that would trigger the takeover of the country by extra-constitutional forces. In short, it's a road map for martial law

There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived 'enemies of the state' almost instantaneously."

... a number of former government employees and intelligence sources with independent knowledge of domestic surveillance operations claim the program that caused the flap between Comey and the White House was related to a database of Americans who might be considered potential threats in the event of a national emergency. Sources familiar with the program say that the government's data gathering has been overzealous and probably conducted in violation of federal law and the protection from unreasonable search and seizure guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment.

According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, "There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived 'enemies of the state' almost instantaneously." He and other sources tell Radar that the database is sometimes referred to by the code name Main Core. One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.

much more at:
http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php

[ellie]

1. I can't wait till

these people are gone. Almost done!

[frogcycle]

6. you wish

they didn't set up this police state only to bow out gracefully

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I'm betting on "riots" that way they can enact

Executive Order and walla... police state is here in full force

[frogcycle]

20. walla walla?

[LakeSamish706]

25. In the State of Washington.. Interesting. n/t

[jmowreader]

68. Farming community in the middle of Washington State?

Sounds like the PERFECT place to put a prison camp. Lots and LOTS of open area, and plenty of work farming the famous Walla Walla Sweet onions--which are MUCH better than the overpromoted Vidalia, and they come from a state that goes blue in presidential elections unlike those inferior red-state onions.

[Echo In Light]

166. DC cops to carry assault rifles/Cops with rifles to hit streets this summer

DC cops to carry assault rifles
Cops with rifles to hit streets this summer
By David C. Lipscomb
May 9, 2008

Metropolitan Police Department officials said yesterday patrol officers will be issued assault rifles by the summer, after policies on their use are released this month.

The Washington Times reported Wednesday that the department is arming the officers with the rifles as part of a national trend to protect them from criminals with increasingly powerful weapons.

Assistant Chief Joshua Ederheimer said the department has spent the past year converting 500 AR-15 rifles from fully-automatic to semi-automatic and drafting training curriculum and policies governing the weapons.

http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2008/05/dc-cops-to-carry-assault-rifles.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. No, presto, done, and we are almost there

scary, isn't it?

[al bupp]

89. I think she meant, "voila",

French for "there it is" or "here it is".

[rhett o rick]

137. Voila? I think I dated her in hi school. nm

[frogcycle]

158. thanks, i was all confoosed

[rhett o rick]

136. NO NO only one walla. Jeeeeese. nm

[frogcycle]

157. I don't folla

[rhett o rick]

175. It wasn't that funny upon reflection. I was refering to your walla wall. nm

[frogcycle]

182. Oh, it was funny - worth a dolla

or at least a holla

[rhett o rick]

183. Yeah maybe to Paula. nm

[frogcycle]

188. glad you are no longer hot under the colla n/t

[rhett o rick]

189. I surrenda. nm

[Flying Dream Blues]

164. No, I think it's walla as in the humorous amurkun version of voila! :) nt

[Patchuli]

61. walla? You mean 'voila'

I believe.

I don't think they're smart enough to control this many folks...

[spinbaby]

70. Or, as I've seen more than once...

Viola!

[FredStembottom]

91. Frank Viola's in the database?!?!?

That should make all of us at DU feel better about being in there!

[TroglodyteScholar]

146. Super guy

One of the nicest ball players I ever met. While other guys at spring training MAY spend a minute at the fence signing autographs, Frank actually came up into the stands to hang out with fans. Class act...

Viola!

[jeff30997]

148. "Viola!"

Yeah,I've seen that too.In French viola means "he rapped".So the Chimp viola the Constitution.

[nashville_brook]

101. and you can bet they will be "Brooks Bros Riots" at the behest of Rush Limbaugh

agents provocateur.

[LakeSamish706]

19. I have been saying that on every occassion... We probably will not...

ever witness another election in the US... Not sure how we deal with this either... They are not ever going to let go of power... They come up with great bullshit about how the junta's in Burma are a big problem, but we have the exact same thing in the US.

[malaise]

50. For peace sake calm down

80% of the country are against Bush. He does not have enough people to carry this through even if it was his greatest desire. He and Cheney will be dragged out in chains if he tries.

[TheWatcher]

67. And exactly what proof exists that this would happen?

What makes you so certain?

In light of everything they have done, what makes it so certain? Have you read the legislation they have passed? Do you understand the scope of what they have constructed? Do understand how far they have pushed the envelope? The Military Commissions Act ALONE is enough to set all systems to Red Alert.

The most honest thing ANYONE on this board can say is that we HOPE that SOMEHOW they don't go through with it NOW.

That is why they must be held accountable for their crimes. So that four or eight years from now, they do not crawl out of the walls and finish the job.

[malaise]

71. Good reply

I have no proof except that for all the signing statements and all their networks, they could not even maintain their hold on Congress.

For all their so called power, they just lost three safe Rethug seats.

For all their power there are many powerful men who no longer support them.

[FredStembottom]

95. Thank you, malaise.

In all the Bushco comparisons to Hitler's rise on DU (which are worthy comparisons), I began to realize that there is a critical difference (or 2) here.

One is that Bush is as unpopular as it's possible to be now. He is down to the illiterate/hermit/background-noise level of popularity in the polls. I find that I can criticize Bush to my military friends at work - and while they don't chime in, they do nod sheepishly when I say that I support the military - but the civilian leadership has to go.

Secondly, the traditional couch-potato lethargy and isolation that is America will leave any popular support for Bushco martial law still-born. We just don't have those beer-halls (or any other social "third-place") in which to foment radical, fascist uprisings.

Bush and Cheney may hold a lot of levers right now - but I am not so sure they are soundly connected to anything anymore.
And they hold those levers all by themselves. Their "cabal" is just a constantly churning parade of red-faced, guilty men leaving to "spend more time with their families".

We may be OK, now.

(This post marks an optimistic bookend to my earlier post in the poll about an attack on Iran. One does not exclude the other)

[NMDemDist2]

142. as much as I'd love to believe that thread of hope you have offered, join me in some tinfoil

hats for a moment

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

OK, name me ONE dictator who is/was popular? They don't gain and hold power with popularity, they do it with force. Usually the Army, but in our case, I think Blackwater and their ilk will suffice.

sigh

can you tell me the fault in my logic on that one? I hope so.......

[FredStembottom]

Our military is not with him anymore

and "out of town". There aren't remotely enough mercenaries to lock-down America.

[NMDemDist2]

170. they don't need to lock down 300million, only

the 10% of the population that will rouse the rabble

that's why they have the list......

[FredStembottom]

168. Our military is not with him anymore

and "out of town". There aren't remotely enough mercenaries to lock-down America.

[MissWaverly]

117. And they are broke

McCain has so little money that the RNC is expected to finance his campaign, didn't Bush have like a 4 different food choices for
reporters on the campaign trail with him*. With McCain, they will be lucky to get a Ritz cracker.

*I read that in the book Great American Hypocrites.

[rhett o rick]

160. The corporations behind the neocon cabal are far from broke. When corps like Exxon think that a

regime change may cost them billions in profits, same for Halliburton, GE, etc. they will find billions to support their corporate dictator. They own the media and will spew the propaganda.

Mark my words they won't go peacefully.

[MissWaverly]

174. true, but they are not going to swim against an army of poor

folks who are 1000% committed to change, these people only give a dollar when they can get back $100.00; if you look at some of
those who have made a lot of money since Bushco, they donated $200,000 or $400,000 to the GOP and got back billions in sweet contracts.

[FiveGoodMen]

129. "they could not even maintain their hold on Congress"

Beg to differ.

[LanternWaste]

112. Too many people are now aware that the Emperor Has No Clothes...

"And exactly what proof exists that this would happen?"

(Actually, I think you're confusing the words 'evidence' and 'proof'... that aside)

3 seats lost by the Republicans in the past two weeks alone is some wonderfully dramatic evidence. If this paper-tiger of an administration were hellbent on retaining and consolidating power, it seems they've failed.

Too many people are now aware that the Emperor Has No Clothes... his own side has effectively disowned him. His architects of power are no longer in office.

Melodrama and bad movie plots aside, I'm supremely confident that there will be a Democrat in the White House come January, and much like the past 150 years, the reigns will pass peacefully.

[japple]

141. Bush didn't win the last 2 elections, either. But there he

sits in the Oval Office, ruining this country. No, it can't happen here.

[bdamomma]

72. I hope so, no one will take this.

and how many would be willing to surrender to these thugs?

[windbreeze]

113. How many blackwater troops are there?

and how many citizens would have to be shot in front of others in their community...in order to gain control of a whole community?? One must never underestimate an opponent...these guys have not been putting one foot in front of the other for the last 8 years for NO reason...for every single thing they've done...there is a purpose...imo..wb

[kimmerspixelated]

115. Malaise is right!

There's far too many of us! They would really be completely outnumbered!

[NMDemDist2]

144. sadly, the Nazis proved if you can find and remove the 10% of the population

that are the natural leaders, the rest of the population will submit like sheep. They didn't need a high ratio of guards at most of the death camps, only the camp where they sent the 'leaders'

No dictator is popular, what he is is smart enough to get the rabble rousers off the streets

and while I'm not buying ammo at this point, the plan laid out above would work. Most folks would continue their daily lives if they felt their families would be safer that way.

[Andy823]

122. I agree with you.

The same kind of rumors were going around about Bill Clinton. He was not going to go, he was going to declare marshal law, he was going to start a war, etc. I just don't see how they could get away with this. Even the republicans can't be that stupid to go along with a plan like this!

Bush has already done his damage, and sometimes I think they want a democrat to win so they can blame everything on the "new" president. It is not going to be easy to get this country back on track, and with all the crap that has happened it would be to their advantage to let the democrats win, and then keep telling the public by way of the MSM that the republicans own, how the democrats are screwing things up.

[davekriss]

165. They already are blaming the Democrats

Several Republican acquaintances have already independently approached me to tell me the economic tailspin is the fault of the Democratic Congress.

[rhett o rick]

138. Ok, let's just think about this. What the hell will 80% of the country do if he declares martial

law and orders the national guard and army to round up dissidents?? I think your 80% will drop dramatically when guns show up. People in general are cowards and will yield. Look at Germany in the late 1030's.

[Politicalboi]

143. When people have no

Food, no gas, and bank accounts are worthless what are you going to do? Your right people will comply and be good littel germans. I think the gas hike is because the dollar is weak, but nobody's saying it. They could change our world anytime they want and get away with it. They already have. And they could send out a virus that kills millions quickly and then deal with the aftermath. You take communication, gas and food away from us and you have chaos. Don't think it can't happen.

[a la izquierda]

162. Or anywhere in Latin America

from the 1960s to the late 1980s.
In Chile, under Pinochet, the military would go in to towns, round up the Leftist political leaders, union organizers, etc., and simply take them out and shoot them. Nobody resisted. If you did, you died. This story was repeated throughout the region.

Upwards of 200000 civilians dead in Guatemala? How the hell do you accomplish that without civilian apathy and fear? You can't. Militaries and dictatorships know how to control, which is how they get power in the first place...but, we need to remember that dictators are sometimes elected and only take total control afterwards.

[Toucano]

180. Not quite "anywhere" in Latin America

There's one notable exception that I now call home. :)

[a la izquierda]

185. Would that be Mexico?

It is my part time home. It has an incredibly distinct history from the rest of the region, you're absolutely right.

[Individualist]

147. The teevee will tell people this is for their own protection,

and far too many people think the teevee never lies.

[loudsue]

171. One word: Blackwater.

They aren't necessarily Americans...they are an armed militia on American soil. Paid for at the pleasure of the Pentagon via OUR tax dollars and all the drugs the CIA can sell.

[TheWatcher]

66. This is simply what I cannot understand.

You hit the nail on the head exactly, and it always frustrates me to no end how so many think that in January '09 this tidal wave of change is going to sweep across the nation, and all of the things this cabal has done will just disappear like a bad memory.

They have gone to too much trouble to set this power structure up to not use it.

Nobody ever seems to ask the question "Why would they NOT use it?"

Why would they to go to this much length, this much trouble, this much risk, this much conquest, just to fade into the sunset and say "Aw shucks, I guess we don't get to play anymore."

So here is the bad news no one wants to face or deal with.

Unless something drastic happens within the next six months, they WILL get away with everything they have ever done, they will NEVER be held accountable, and they WILL walk away scott free, and it appears from the top of the leadership of this country to the most average American, WE WILL LET THEM.

If we do not hold them accountable, if we let them walk, they MAY go back into the wall like the cockroaches they are, however, whether it be four or eight years, THEY WILL BE BACK.

And they will more than likely finish the job next time.

Personally, I am very worried they are done waiting.

They are too close to their goal.

Why they would simply walk away I have no logical answer for.

Let us pray that logic does not win the day where they are concerned.

Because logically, there is no way they should want to leave power legally and peacefully.

[rhett o rick]

177. My feelings exactly. And they are well entrenched, and have enormous amounts of money

and they own all the propaganda machines. They have nothing to loose to try. Also, they are sociopaths and psychopaths, they don't think they can be defeated.

[nichomachus]

133. I'm still waiting

for someone to explain why they would establish a dictatorial presidency with unlimited powers -- and then hand that over to people who could use that against them.

Anyone?

[rhett o rick]

135. To think that "these people" will be "gone" is very, vey dangerous.

Mark my words, they will not go peacefully. They have huge resources available to them. They own a good share of Congress. Please, please do not underestimate them. Be ready and willing to literally fight to save those that will be "rounded up".

[HCE SuiGeneris]

2. Is it too late to change my name here?

Think BushDespiser12 sends up any flags?

Hi agent Mike! :hi:

[Generic Brad]

3. I think being a member of DU qualifies you in itself

Hope you don't post at Daily Kos too.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

13. This site has me addicted enough...

I'd get even less done posting there as well.

[BeHereNow]

17. Many of us would have gone insane over the last 8 years, were it not for DU.

I don't think it's an addiction as much as a vestige of sanity.
There is great comfort in knowing you are not alone-
BHN

[lutefisk]

29. That is so true. DU is kind of like tapping on the wall between our cells.

We know we are not alone.

:thumbsup: :hi:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

36. No shit.

The isolation that I have felt due to this cabal's influence has been enormous. (clanging my tin cup across the bars)

[99th_Monkey]

38. That's a great analogy. ... and sadly so true. ~nt~

[calimary]

93. DU has certainly been a life-saver for me. And a sanity-saver.

I've felt like a frickin' hostage since December 12th, 2000. A stranger in a VERY strange land.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

34. Thanks for that.

You are definitely correct. :thumbsup:

[bdamomma]

73. thank god for all us progressives here at DU.

maybe we should start getting each other's phone numbers just in case they ever think of shutting DU down. or do I have this on:tinfoilhat:

[RazBerryBeret]

23. you're already on the list...

LOL!!!

[DianaForRussFeingold]

49. BushDespiser12-Not at all, you're FRIENDLY enough

:hi: All the DUers I know, seem very FRIENDLY.:pals:

Although lately, I've noticed a few UNFRIENDLY trolls, hanging around :shrug:


:hide: "BUSHCO's 'Secret List Of 8 million UNFRIENDLY American Citizens' To Be Detained Under Martial Law"

We only have to worry if we're being, UNFRIENDLY... :sarcasm:

[rhett o rick]

176. Be proud to be on the list. nm

[Ilsa]

4. I guess the membership of DU makes up a tiny portion of that 8 million name list. nt

[seemslikeadream]

5. Where are they going to put all of us?

[PDJane]

8. Halliburton has already built

the concentration camps, complete with rail accessibility.

[BeHereNow]

14. Do you know where?

I know they got a contract, but I haven't heard
much else.
BHN

[JuniperLea]

130. I have a friend who has an office and institutional furniture business

She has had many huge contracts for this... under the guise of them being "immigration detention" facilities... with no habeas corpus, they could lock a lot of people away for good... Ask for your ID... after you give it up, they "lose" said ID... well, you must not be an Amurkin cuz you don't have an ID!

[rhett o rick]

179. Google detention camps usa also taylor texas prison. nm

[HCE SuiGeneris]

9. I have a request in for Fort Ord in Seaside (near Monterey, CA)

Seems reasonable enough...

[seemslikeadream]

21. Sounds nice! I'm sure there will be plenty of refreshments

[HCE SuiGeneris]

28. Or possibly

[BrotherBuzz]

44. Fort Ord isn't a fort anymore...

besides it's too damn windy and sandy there. I would chose my incarceration to be across the bay in the Presidio of Monterey, right in the middle of Monterey's banana belt.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. That's easy, and horrific at the same time

[BeHereNow]

12. In the Halliburton camps?

Haven't heard much about what they are doing with
that $385 million dollar contract to build
detention centers... maybe we don't want to know.

BHN

[HCE SuiGeneris]

26. As I understand it, they are all complete.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

[Phred42]

75. You should post that midfully link as a standalone

It too good to get burried here.

[gilpo]

85. I'm not one to defend boosh, but this site's info is suspect..

I looked up the first couple of executive orders and I have to wonder how he jumps to those conclusions form the text of the orders.

How do you get to this:
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

from this:
Executive Order 10990

RE-ESTABLISHING THE FEDERAL SAFETY COUNCIL

WHEREAS section 33 (c) of the Federal Employees' Compensation Act, as amended (5 U.S.C. 784), declared it to be the purpose of the Congress to reduce the number of accidents and injuries among Government officers and employees, encourage safe practices, eliminate work hazards and health risks, and reduce compensable injuries; and

WHEREAS section 35 of that Act, as amended (5 U.S.C. 785), further disclosed the interest of the Congress in the promotion of safety in Federal agencies and establishments; and

WHEREAS the Federal Employees' Compensation Act, as amended and as modified by Reorganization Plan No. 19 of 1950 (hereinafter referred to as the Act), directs the heads of Government departments and agencies to develop, support, and foster organized safety promotion, and to keep such records of injuries and accidents to persons covered by the Act, and to make such statistical and other reports upon such forms as the Secretary of Labor may prescribe; and

WHEREAS the preponderance of accidents involving employees in the Federal service occur in field operations, the heads of executive departments and agencies, and through them, their supervisory staffs, including regional and field staffs, must exert leadership in the establishment of a sound accident prevention program at both the national and regional level; and

WHEREAS representatives of Federal employees should share a similar concern for the establishment of such programs; and

WHEREAS the President is authorized by the Act to establish by Executive order a safety council composed of representatives of Government departments and agencies to serve as an advisory body to the Secretary of Labor in furtherance of the safety program carried out by the Secretary pursuant to section 33 of the Act and to undertake such other measures as he deems proper to prevent injuries and accidents to persons covered by the Act:

NOW, THEREFORE, by virtue of the authority vested in me by section 33(c) of the Act and as President of the United States, it is hereby ordered as follows:

SECTION 1. Establishment of Council. There is hereby established in the Department of Labor the Federal Safety Council, hereinafter referred to as the Council. The Council shall be composed of a Chairman, to be designated by the Secretary of Labor, and one qualified representative of each of the several executive departments and agencies and of the municipal government of the District of Columbia (hereinafter referred to as members). The heads of the departments and agencies and the Board of Commissioners of the District of Columbia shall designate the members representing them, respectively, and may also designate suitable alternate members. The Secretary of Labor may, as he deems appropriate, appoint representatives of national or international unions, having Federal employees as members, to serve as consultants to the various committees establilshed by the Council. The Chairman, members, alternate members, and consultants shall serve, as such, without compensation from the United States.

SEC. 2. Purpose and functions of Council. The Council shall serve in an advisory capacity to the Secretary of Labor in matters relating to the safety of civilian employees of the Federal government and the municipal government of the District of Columbia and the furtherance of the safety program carried out by the Secretary pursuant to section 33 of the Act. It shall advise the Secretary of Labor with respect to the development and maintenance of adequate and effective safety organizations and programs in the several departments and agencies of the Federal government and the municipal government of the District of Columbia and with respect to criteria, standards, and procedures designed to eliminate work hazards and health risks and to prevent mjuries and accidents in Federal employment.

SEC. 3. Council affiliates, committees, and officers. The Council shall include as an integral part of its organizational structure and operations such affiliates, hereafter established by the Council or now existing, in such manner and to such extent as it deems necessary properly and efficiently to perform its functions. The Council shall establish such committees, and may choose such officers (other than its chairman), as it finds necessary for carrying out its functions.

SEC. 4. Regulations. The Secretary of Labor shall prescribe appropriate regulations governing the activities and functions of the Council.

SEC. 5. Administrative and budgetary arrangementse. The Secretary of Labor shall make available necessary office space and furnish the Council necessary equipment, supplies, and staff services.

SEC. 6. Continuity. The Federal Safety Council established by this order shall be deemed to constitute a continuation of the Federal Safety Council heretofore existing under the provisions of Executive Order No. 10194 of December 19, 1950.

SEC. 7. Revocation. Executive Order No. 10194 of December 19, 1950, is hereby superseded.

JOHN F. KENNEDY

THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 2, 1962.

Or this:
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

From this:
Executive Order 10998
ASSIGNING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FUNCTIONS TO THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE
By virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United States, including authority vested in me by Reorganization Plan No. 1 of 1958 (72 Stat. 1799), it is hereby ordered as follows:

SECTION 1. Scope. The Secretary of Agriculture (hereinafter referred to as the Secretary) shall prepare national emergency plans and develop preparedness programs covering: Food resources, farm equipment, fertilizer, and food resource facilities, as defined below; rural fire control; defense against biological warfare, chemical warfare, and radiological fallout pertaining to agricultural activities; and rural defense information and education. These plans and programs shall be designed to develop a state of readiness in these areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.

SEC. 2. Definitions. As used in this order:

(a) "Food resources" means all commodities and products, simple, mixed or compound, or complements to such commodities or products, that are capable of being eaten or drunk, by either human beings or animals' irrespective of other uses to which such commodities or products may be. put, at all stages of processing from the raw commodity to the products thereof in vendible form for human or animal consumption. For the purposes of this order the term "food resources" shall also include all starches, sugars, vegetable and animal fats and oils, cotton, tobacco, wool, mohair, hemp, flax fiber, and naval stores, but shall not include any such material after it loses its identity as an agricultural commodity or agricultural product.
(b) "Farm equipment" means machinery, equipment and repair parts manufactured primarily for use on farms in connection with the production or preparation for market or use of "food resources."
(c) "Fertilizer" means any product or combination of products for plant nutrition in form for distribution to the users thereof.
(d) "Food resource facilities" means plants, machinery, vehicles (including on farm) and other facilities for the production, processing, distribution and storage (including cold storage) of food resources, and for domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer.
SEC. 3. Food Function. With respect to food resources, food resource facilities, farm equipment, and fertilizer the Secretary shall:
(a) Resources. Periodically assess assigned resources available from all sources in order to estimate availability under an emergency situation, analyze resource estimates in relation to estimated requirements in order to identify problem areas, and develop appropriate recommendations and programs including those necessary for the maintenance of an adequate mobilization base. Provide data and assistance before and after attack for national resource evaluation purposes of the Office of Emergency Planning.
(b) Requirements. Periodically assemble, develop as appropriate, and evaluate requirements for assigned resources and service, taking into account the estimated needs for military, civilian, and foreign purposes. Such evaluation shall take into consideration the geographical distribution of requirements under emergency conditions.
(c) Priorities and allocations. Develop priorities, allocations and distribution control systems and related plans to insure that available food resources are properly apportioned among and distributed to civilian, military and foreign claimants in an emergency and develop priorities, allocations and distribution control systems and related plans for the domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer.
(d) Production and processing. Develop control systems and related plans including control of use of facilities designed to provide adequate and continuing production, processing and storage of essential food resources in an emergency.
(e) Salvage and rehabilitation. Develop plans for salvage of food resources after determination by proper authorities having the responsibility for this function, of their safety for human or animal consumption anti develop plans for the rehabilitation of food resource facilities after attack.
(f) Economic stabilization. Cooperate with the Office of Emergency Planning in the development of stabilization policies as they might affect agricultural production, processing, distribution, and storage, and in tile development of policies for consumer rationing of food resources.
(g) Financial aid. Develop plans and procedures for financial and credit assistance for farmers who might need such assistance under various mobilization conditions, and provide assistance to food industries in obtaining necessry financing and credit in an emergency.
SEC. 4. Cooperation with Department of Defense. In consonance with national civil defense plans, programs and operations of the Department of Defense, under Executive Order No. 10952, the Secretary shall:
(a) Facilities protection. Provide industry protection guidance materials adapted to the needs of assigned food resources facilities and promote a national program to stimulate disaster preparedness and control in order to minimize the effects of overt or covert attack, and to maintain continuity of production and capacity to serve essential users in an emergency. Guidance shall include, but not be limited to, organizing and training facility personnel shelter, evacuation plans, records protection, continuity of management, emergency repair, deconcentration or dispersal of facilities, and industrial mutual :lid associations for an emergency.
(b) Rural fire functions. In cooperation with Federal, State and local agencies, develop plans for a national program and direct activities in relationship to the prevention and control of fires in the rural areas in the United States caused by the effects of enemy attack.
(c) Biological, chemical, and radiological warfare defense functions. Develop plans for a national program, direct Federal activities, and furnish technical guidance to State and local authorities concerning
(1) diagnosis and strengthening of defensive barriers and control or eradication of diseases, pests, or chemicals introduced as agents of biological or chemical warfare against animals, crops or products thereof;
(2) protective measures, treatment and handling of livestock, including poultry, agricultural commodities on farms or ranches, agricultural lands, forest lands, and water for agricultural purposes, any of which have been exposed to or affected by radiation. Plans shall be developed for a national program and direction of Federal activities to assure the safety and wholesomeness and to minimize losses from biological and chemical warfare radiological effects, and other emergency hazards of livestock, meat and meat products, poultry and poultry products in establishments under the continuous inspection of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and agricultural commodities and products owned by the Commodity Credit Corporation or by the Secretary.

(d) Rural flefense information and education. Conduct a rural defense information and education program to advise farmers that they will have a responsibility to produce food of the kind and quantity needed in an emergency and shall work with farmers and others in rural areas to reduce the vulnerability of hollies, crops, livestock, and forests, to either overt or covert attack.
(e) Damage assessment. Maintain a capability to assess the effects of attack on assigned resource areas and departmental installations, both at national and field levels, and provide data to the Department of Defense.
SEC. 5. Claimancy. The Secretary shall prepare plans to claim materials, manpower, equipment, supplies and services which would be needed to carry out assigned responsibilities and other essential functions of the Department from the appropriate agency and work with such agencies in developing programs to insure availability of such resources Ill an emergency.
SEC. 6. Stockpiles. The Secretary shall assist the Office of Emergency Planning in formulating and carrying out plans for stockpiling strategic and critical materials. In the administration of Commodity Credit Corporation inventories of food resources shall take all possible measures to assure the availability of such inventories when and where needed in an emergency. The secretary shall also develop plans and procedures for the proper utilization of agriculture items stockpiled for survival purposes.

SEC. 7. National Program Guidance. The Secretary shall provide technical guidance to State and local governments to the end that all planning concerned with functions assigned herein will be effectively coordinated. He shall also maintain relations with the appropriate industries to foster mutual understanding of Federal emergency plans.

SEC. 8. Research. Within the framework of over-all Federal research objectives, the Secretary shall supervise or conduct research directly concerned with carrying out emergency preparedness responsibilities, designate representatives for necessary ad hoc or task force groups' and provide advice and assistance to other agencies in planning for research in areas involving the interests of the Department of Agriculture.

SEC. 9. Functional Guidance. The Secretary, in carrying out the functions assigned in this order, shall be guided by the following:

(a) Interagency cooperation. The Secretary shall assume the initiative in developing joint plans for the coordination of emergency food resources of those departments and agencies which have the responsibility for any segment of such activities. He shall utilize to the maximum those capabilities of other agencies qualified to perform or assist in the performance of assigned functions by contractual or other agreements.
(b) Presidential coordination. The Director of the Office of Emergency Planning shall advise and assist the President in determining policy for, and assist him in coordinating the performance of functions under this order with the total national preparedness program.
(c) Emergency planning. Emergency plans and programs and emergency or organization structure required thereby, shall be developed as an integral part of the continuing activities of the Department of Agriculture and the basis that it will have the responsibility for carrying out such programs during an emergency. The Secretary shall be prepared to implement all appropriate plans developed under this order. Modifications and-temporary organizational changes, based on emergency conditions, will be in accordance with policy determination by the President.
SEC. 10. Emergency Functions. Nothing in this order shall be construed as conferring authority under Title III of the Federal Civil Defense Act of 1950, as amended, or otherwise, to put into effect any emergency plan, procedure, policy, program, or course of action prepared or developed pursuant to this order. Such authority is reserved to the President.
SEC. 11. Redelegation. The Secretary is hereby authorized to redelegate within the Department of Agriculture the functions hereinabove assigned to him.

SEC. 12. Prior Actions. To the extent of any inconsistency between the provisions of ,any prior order and the provisions of this order, the latter shall control. Emergency Preparedness Order No. 1 (hereto issued by the Director, Office of Civil and Defense Mobilization) (26 F.R. 651-652). is hereby revoked.

JOHN F. KENNEDY

THE WHITE HOUSE, February 16, 1962.

[mzmolly]

125. Ovens?

:shrug:

[whistle]

11. Part of the secret plan for installing Bush/Cheney as dictators for life

[C_U_L8R]

15. I just saw that referenced on Boing Boing

Thing is.. if your enemies list is getting to be 8 million people long,
don't they think for a moment that they might be wrong.

One thing's for sure, we won't go easy.

[MercutioATC]

16. Gee, I was counting on my "secret" security clearance to save me from the goons...

...maybe it's a good thing I'm leaving in less than 8 years...


...this place is getting spooky.

[hyphenate]

18. That's impossible!

There aren't 8 million members of DU!





















:hide:


Ya gotta figure some of us might actually be on that list, though!

[Ytzak]

22. Bullets are cheap ...shoot us then burry us.

IN the event of such a scenario the only reasonable outcome would be to kill those rounded up. You don't have to feed them. You don't have to worry someone will escape.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

31. You obviously havn't bought much ammo lately.

45 ACP is around $0.50 per round for FMJ target practice. $1.00 + for JHP. 12 ga. 00 buck is about the same. A dollar a pop for slugs. About the only cheap ammo is 22 ca.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Much cheaper than feeding eight million even at starvation

rations

There is the psychological cost on those doing it, but it is much cheaper

[Ytzak]

35. Exactly what I meant...

Bullets are cheaper than feeding, housing, hiring guards to guard. It is the common solution taken by all tyrants. Round up those that disagree with you and kill them. Most humans will surrender their freedoms very quickly to a determined tyrant.

The only reason to actually try malcontents is for the propaganda victory. These 8 million are the enemy within. We try them on trumped up charges. Then kill them. But it is much easier and neater just to kill everyone without a trial.

[LakeSamish706]

24. And of course you all know that there was a secret agreement signed with Canada...

whereby the troops from either country can enter (and I assume fight) in either country. Under a Stephen Harper (minority Govt.) that has to be a big problem in my mind.

[nashville_brook]

102. no, i had not heard that. very interesting.

[Arctic Dave]

27. If I'm not on that list I'm going to be really, really pissed.

I hate every single one of those M/^&*F*^%@RS with every fiber in my body. Oh, do I wish evil, evil things on all of them.

[robinlynne]

53. made me laugh during the most serious OP of the day. n/t

[warren pease]

63. Yeah, I'm kind of ambivalent about the whole enemies list idea...

... On one hand, this entire snoop society makes me so furious I can never quite summon up the right words to characterize my outrage. So if I'm on one of their lists, I'm not really surprised, but I'm seriously pissed off.

On the other hand, if I'm NOT on a list, it means one of two things: Either I'm not working nearly hard enough at being a pain in the ass to the right people, or all the technology our taxes have paid over the years is mostly junk and can't do the job it was intended for.

So I'm a civil libertarian living in a total surveillance society and going gradually insane with rage and frustration. Or I'm a lightweight not fit for a real enemies list. Or all this stuff the NSA and the rest claim can pick up any conversation anywhere in the world, store it and then run it later on through something like Promis to check out the presence of key words... all that's hogwash and they're barely out of the 80286 processor era.

But on the real side, I post this about once a week because there seem to be a lot of people who've never heard of most of the stuff, or if they have, they're not seeing a pattern but just a series of discrete events. But a pattern is pretty well laid out, imo, and here's a post listing maybe 2/3 of the main pieces.

Here's the same information in case the link above isn't working:

We now have repressive legislation still awaiting final approval and Bushie's big red X, executive orders and presidential directives; massive federal invasions of privacy regarding medical and http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/washington/23intel.html?ex=1308715200&en=168d69d26685c26c&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss">financial records; monitoring US citizens' electronic communications; re-targeting spy satellites for domestic surveillance; the TSA cavity search specialists (for attractive young women only; the rest are presumed to pose no threat to the state); no-fly and terrorist watch lists; Halliburton/KBR's detention camps; RFIDs in all new passports and in the new national ID cards scheduled to be issued this year; new TSA "behavior detection officers" to spot those who don't "look quite right;" all this wonderful new stuff from the DHS; private armies featuring mercenaries from companies like Blackwater and SAIC springing up like mushrooms after a light rain... All that and the Patriot Act, the http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/commissions.html">Military Commissions Act, http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraordinaryrendition/22203res20051206.html">extraordinary rendition (whatever the hell that means) and torture, too. (Note: the torture link is graphic and disgusting.)

Also, see the blockquote in this post, which is a small part of H.R. 1585, the fiscal year 2008 National Defense Authorization Act. Note the orders to prepare to use regular troops -- as opposed to the Guard or Reserves -- to respond to "natural disasters and terrorist events." In other words, martial law.

Given all the above, I think a reasonable person could conclude that martial law is in fact a strong possibility, without being branded a paranoid loon. But just in case that's not true, I'll be out by the lake practicing my bird calls for a while. If you're going to called a loon anyway, you might as well sound like one.


wp

[MiniMe]

30. Hmmm, I IM with a friend in Singapore

I wonder if that is enough to get me on the list. Aside to being a member here of course. :rofl:

[greenbriar]

33. I'm betting I am on the list

especially as I hate that phuckstick with all my being

[crimsonblue]

37. I guarantee I'm on that list...

I had a couple of incidents in High School that most assuredly put me on the list, and if they didn't, I'm sure one of the many vitriolic emails I sent to our Commander-in-Chimp most definitely did. Oh well... I'm ready to sacrifice for my republic..

[lonestarnot]

39. If they come for me I'm fight'n, hell I'm fight'n from the moment they launch any bullshit here.

:P

[unkachuck]

40. "from....

....heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention."

....do you think we'll still be allowed to post on DU from detention?

[struggle4progress]

42. Gosh. That sounds even longer than Nixon's list of enemies. And Nixon was one sick mofo.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Compared to this crew, he was a saint

but.. the reason we are here is Ford's pardon and... Clinton never went after Poppy and the crew

[opihimoimoi]

45. Can we pick our cellmates? Jus askin? LOL

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. If they go there, (or rather when) I don't expect to see the other side

and that is the truth.

But if we do... sure cellie, I can even share my short stories... written on whatever we can get, with whatever we can get

Was done at the camps...

[opihimoimoi]

54. Imagine this...at this day and age....that the Bushies are planning some

diabolical crap straight outta the History Books....

Don't them dudes READ?

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. Americans don't read... even here on DU you will find

people who are damn ignorant of US History, let alone world history

And the holocaust is oh so yesterday...

I mean, just twenty minutes ago we had one saying that eight million will be hard to round up

Given that the Ruskies rounded up over 60m, and the Germans rounded up 14m+

And modern tech makes it oh so much easier

And killing and burying people... SWORDS can do it... only a robot no PTSD to deal with

[opihimoimoi]

60. Only a well read astute segment of the pop can prevent.....HELP....

[robinlynne]

47. what is this source, radar-on-line? I trust kpete 100%, but would like to know that the source

is trustworthy. kpete?

[Contrary1]

48. I'm pretty sure I'm on the list also...

I had an upfront and personal experience with the FBI back in the late 60's, and I speak frequently with an acquaintance overseas.
Oh, and I post here on DU. Pretty lame qualifications, but there are prisoners at Gitmo who have done less.

Come and get me. Free meds, health care, food and shelter. As I approach Social Security, that doesn't sound all that bad.

[bbgrunt]

62. free meds, food and shelter? you wish!

[kohodog]

51. Kpete, sorry, didn't mean to step on your thread

Saw it on digby and posted my own before I saw yours. Google "Main Core" and see how much is out there, it's amazing. I normally think of this stuff as tin foil, but who knows?

[librechik]

52. The country is under attack, yet they have time to drop everything and arrest us?

There is something basically wrong with this doomsday scenario. the only way it makes sense is if we are the ones doing the attacking.
Then it would make sense to put us away--maybe even in advance. You don't think they could get people to believe that hogwash do you?

oh yeah they will. Their target audience still believes that the WMDs got smuggled into Syria, that returning Vietnam vets got spat on by dirty hippies back in 68 and that Obama is a secret muslim.

[kohodog]

56. Sometimes I wonder...

How many dumbfucks live in this country? I mean Bush won twice, sort of. But it was close enough for him to come out on top and that is pretty incredible in itself. I think it had to be close in 2000 and 2004 for them to steal it. What are the odds it will be close in 08? Way more than iy should be imo. Too many scared dumbfucks.

[warren pease]

107. Enough to populate Jesusland to overflowing and still have to annex Mexico to fit them all in.

Given that the country's now officially known as Dumbfuckistan, I guess there are, by definition, about 300 million Dumbfucks here.

As to how many of Dumbfuckistan's Dumbfucks are actually (lower case) dumbfucks, it's got to be well over half the population, maybe two-thirds. Maybe 97 percent.

It's got to be a high number because only a country absolutely infested with dumbfucks would put up with the Bushies two counts of grand theft election, the blithering idiots of the ministry of propaganda that mass media has become, the destruction of the economy, the massive transfer of wealth from bottom to top, the deaths or maimings of who knows how many active duty, reserve and Guard troops, the hideous "money talks and bullshit walks" medical non-system, the influence of an estimated 90 million religiously insane fundies screwing things up for everybody else, fascism at home, militarism, imperialism and mass murder abroad...

I'm too dumb to think of any more, but I'm sure they're out there.

And it'll be close in 2008 because our massuhs have perfected election theft over the past four. If you're unconvinced, read Mark Crispin Miller and/or Bobby Kennedy, Jr. on the subject.

They sort of lost in 2006 but if you look at what the majority party has accomplished and what it's scared to touch, the GOPiggies might as well have won in 2006, too.

When the opposition refuses to oppose, you've won by default. Thanks Nancy and Harry and the rest of you candy asses. May you be unceremoniously fired this November -- better yet, may your status be completely undermined by losses in the primaries to people like Shirley Golub, who really, REALLY wants to kick Pelosi's ass to Angel Island and back again.

I can't imagine a more satisfying sight than Pelosi sailing through the crystal blue skies over SF Bay, heading right for the trees and rocks on the island and screaming "OK! OK! It's back on the table..."

Too late, Nance. You're yesterday's news.

Only Dumbfucks would ramble on like this just to answer a very simple question. Duh...


wp

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. Yes, think Nazi Germany

you think the trains stopped running even in late '44?

[lovuian]

58. As I said the Civil War has begun

this is just the beginning

[nadinbrzezinski]

59. I agree with you insofar at it starting

but it started in 1996, at least the cold phase of it

The hot phase, coming to a country near you

Scary shit is ... they have the mechanism to stop it in its tracks, executive orders and all

[bdamomma]

76. a class confrontation is more like it.

it is us vs them.

[fed-up]

64. you mean Duers will finally all get to meet each other in person?? nt

[krispos42]

65. Arrest 8 million Democrats just before the election

Well, that might tip things in McCain's favor in the General, huh?

[nashville_brook]

103. damn -- that's so sinister i bet they've already thought of it!!

i had not connected the dots like that. it's pretty obvious, though, now that you've mentioned it.

[krispos42]

105. I is teh evil!!!

It's probably only a matter of time before people on "terrorist" watch lists can't vote any more.


"Hi, I'm Jim Smith, of 1060 West Addison Avenue, and I'm here to vote."

"Oh, sorry sir, you're on a terrorist watch list. You can't vote."

"What?!?!?"

"Don't worry, here's a souvenir provisional ballot for you to remember this election by!"

[NBachers]

155. Provoke Riots

by offing Obama. I hate to use those words, because it probably marks me as someone who has threatened him. But they can bomb Iran and only the usual suspects will be out in the streets - how much of the country will be cheering it on from their TV seats? Obama is the only thing big enough to provoke full-scale rioting. It's Charlie Manson's "Healter Skelter" all over again. That's what would give these fascists an excuse to declare martial law and initiate the Big Roundup - for our nation's own good.

[jmowreader]

69. Detained my ass

Every state has big industrial buildings that were left behind by those wonderful American companies :sarcasm: who moved their operations to China because Wal-Mart told 'em "get your price down three dollars or go home"...and they still make Zyklon B. (It's called Uragan D2 now, but it's the same stuff--best fumigant in the world.)

[zanne]

74. See you there! Maybe there'll be a "DU camp"! nt

[robertpaulsen]

100. I believe the correct term is "DUlag".

:) Funny, yet not funny.

[zanne]

111. I just hope the guards aren't from that other website...nt

[Marie26]

77. It's a little tin-foil

But then, we already know that the "terror watch list" has about 1 million people on it, so this isn't that different.

[lovuian]

78. didn't some other guy try this and fail

some people never learn

[backscatter712]

79. I've been hanging out with antiwar protesters and participating in Democratic politics.

At one protest, I was even photographed by an FBI agent on the roof of the building across the street.

Probably on the list...

[L. Coyote]

84. I was stabbed nine times while investigating Iran-Contra, just before Iran-Contra.

Yeah, I'm real worried about cameras!!

PEOPLE, get real!! Some of us who have been hauled away, nearly killed, etc.
This alarmist stuff is not serving our purposes. They are psychological manipulations.

The best way to control people is by manipulating their minds!!

FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS .....

Try here for starters: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x134751

Or here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3305996

ANYWHERE except staring into glass balls!! CREATE the future. Go out and get stabbed or something!!!!

Get back to me after you have been illegally detained, tortured, sexually abused,
forcibly drugged, burglarized, etc. and I'll give you a listen.

[nadinbrzezinski]

120. By the time you are illegally detained and raped

it is too late

Get a fracking clue

There are days

:banghead:

[L. Coyote]

80. NEWS: Tin Foil is sold out. Supplies have recently disappeared from store shelves.

There seems to be a complete assault on reason ongoing on DU.
Tin foil crap is getting 20 times as many hits.

Glass balls are likely to sell out next! Silica commodity prices are souring!! :rofl:

[kpete]

83. i understand

your secret code and will share it with no one, kp

[cherokeeprogressive]

104. How many people does it take to "arrest and incarcerate" 8 million?

Where are the Soylent Green factories that will be used to feed them?

Where is the spaceship being built that the illuminati will use to leave the planet while we're languishing in the camps?

[nadinbrzezinski]

121. Ask the Soviets, they managed to get this done to about anywhere from forty

to sixty million

Perhaps the Germans, only fourteen million

Eight... it's child's play

Yes, that thing on your shelve is a history book... sorry it does not include the pictures in it, but I recommend you read it

Next time I will have to add piccies to it

[cherokeeprogressive]

154. Condescending tone aside, I'd ask you if in your heart of hearts you believe

that eight million people who are part of an armed populace (might I add, HEAVILY?) can be rounded up transported, and incarcerated. In this day and age. In the age when ideas and opinions are abundant and easily shared via electronic media. I'd also ask if you believe it would be, as you so smarmily put it, "child's play". Down deep. Where your most strongly held beliefs live, do you think eight million people are in dire jeopardy of being rounded up in the night, put on trains, and taken to detention centers? Do you really? Do you really believe it would be "child's play"?

I don't. Not for a minute. Most of my friends are armed. Most of my family is armed. That is to say they own guns rather than military weaponry. There are more guns in this country than there are people, and there are more bullets than human beings on this planet. In this country alone. So, you'll have a hard time convincing me that there are enough people employed by Big Brother to actually make it happen. Case in point: I live in a mountain community of about 14,000 people. There are three paved roads to get in and out. And hundreds of thousands of square miles of national forest surrounds us. 2/3 of us have guns.

If you spend time fearing the possibility that you're espousing, too bad for you. I don't. I will die in my home before they drag me out. I'm positive to the soles of my feet that there are tens of millions of people in this country who would tell you the same thing. Does your fear stem from the belief that you'd go when they came to your door?

Circumstances before, during and just after WWII were as different from now as night is to day.

Long live the Second Amendment. Those who would use it to take guns away from the populace are the only people who could help to facilitate what you describe.

[left is right]

159. GWB made a gun lover out of me

I had always thought that gun owners should be subjected to the same regulations as car owners and dog owners. License and register those guns for the good of society but the more that I live under the bush regime, the more I realize how naive I was

[cherokeeprogressive]

161. Kind of funny, but not so much.

If I license my gun, who is going to come after it? Society?

Bush Regime makes me PUKE.

Gun owners should be held to MORE strict regulations.

Bush made a gun lover out of you? Felt for the propaganda huh?

[HouseofMayhem]

167. Being heavily armed won't mean much

when the police will be equipped with microwave "crowd control" devices.

[bluesbassman]

156. True, but how independent were those people to begin with?

I'm not saying that Americans are all John Wayne standing at the gate of his ranch with a double barrel shotgun, but I do think that we would not go quietly with the types of things being suggested in this thread. It would take years of conditioning to set up the state of mind to be actually able to pull off a dictatorship. Now we may be heading in that direction, but it isn't going to happen in November.

Does anyone honestly believe that a gang of Blackwater mercs are going to pull it off? Do you know any real soldiers? Do you think THEY would point a gun at YOUR head for the BFEE. I sure as hell don't.

What's going to prevent any of these things from happening is getting this country back on course. That is reality and it is attainable. It's just going to take some time, sacrifice and hard work

[rhett o rick]

181. Your sarcasm hasn't gone unnoticed. Very funny. No one here said they will arrest 8 million at once

Those that don't learn from history are domed to repeat it. If rationalization is the key to happiness, you must be delirious.

[MilesColtrane]

81. 8 million?

Makes Nixon look like a pussy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_list_of_Nixon_political_opponents

[iamahaingttta]

82. Come and get me, M*therf*ckers!

I had better be on your goddamn list, you fascist f*cks!
I should not be "considered unfriendly," I am totally committed to putting each and every one of you right-wing f*cksticks in prison for the rest of your natural lives!

Unfriendly? You can kiss my powdered white ass, you little Hitlers! You are all going to rot in prison in the Hague for your war crimes and other crimes against humanity. You think you have power on your side, but in the long run, you are going DOWN, and you damn well know it.

So go ahead and try it, you brain-dead, moran-loving fascist right-wing assh*les. Come and get me and the other 7,999,999 on your list. A list I am PROUD to be on!

Remember, remember the 4th of November!

[Hubert Flottz]

86. Welcome to Bushvaria

DACHAU

Established in March 1933, the Dachau concentration camp was the first regular concentration camp established by the National Socialist (Nazi) government. Heinrich Himmler, in his capacity as police president of Munich, officially described the camp as "the first concentration camp for political prisoners." It was located on the grounds of an abandoned munitions factory near the northeastern part of the town of Dachau, about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany.

During the first year, the camp held about 4,800 prisoners. Initially the internees consisted primarily of German Communists, Social Democrats, trade unionists, and other political opponents of the Nazi regime. Over time, other groups were also interned at Dachau, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma (Gypsies), homosexuals, as well as "asocials" and repeat criminal offenders. During the early years relatively few Jews were interned in Dachau and then usually because they belonged to one of the above groups or had completed prison sentences after being convicted for violating the Nuremberg Laws of 1935.


In early 1937, the SS, using prisoner labor, initiated construction of a large complex of buildings on the grounds of the original camp. Prisoners were forced to do this work, starting with the destruction of the old munitions factory, under terrible conditions. The construction was officially completed in mid-August 1938 and the camp remained essentially unchanged until 1945. Dachau thus remained in operation for the entire period of the Third Reich.

The number of Jewish prisoners at Dachau rose with the increased persecution of Jews and on November 10-11, 1938, in the aftermath of Kristallnacht, more than 10,000 Jewish men were interned there. (Most of men in this group were released after incarceration of a few weeks to a few months, many after proving they had made arrangements to emigrate from Germany.) MORE...

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005214

[uberllama42]

87. Of course they have a list

The FBI always maintains a list of undesirables. Are they going to detain 8 million people? No.

[Marie26]

140. Agree

The "list" isn't really big news - it's Total Information Awareness. But there's nothing in the article to justify the huge, huge leap that they're planning to imprison 8 million Americans.

[windoe]

88. The race is on

to prosecute the truly corrupt officials before they attempt to prosecute (and incarcerate) innocent citizens!!! This trial has to begin soon-the time is getting short.
Americans have to be the hunters here or we will be the prey.

[wizstars]

90. I hope I'm on the list......

I consider it a badge of honor to be considered an enemy of this regime. I'm sure the KGWB (aka Homeland Security, secret service already has me on their lists.

"If this be treason, then make the most of it."--Patrick Henry

[Kablooie]

92. Manzanar

If you don't know what I mean, check out.
http://www.nps.gov/manz/

[L0oniX]

94. Bush and Cheney should be at the top of that list.

If they ever do that to me and my wife, I will get my revenge, even if it means going out in a blaze of gun fire. I will defend my rights as an American against enemies of the state and country. Shit like this gets me smoking hot! :evilfrown:

[tuckessee]

96. A number of those first detained will be immediately summarily executed. n/t

[wildbilln864]

97. k&r. nt

:hi:

[cloudbase]

98. And Dick Nixon

thought HE had an enemies list!

[notadmblnd]

99. This is the program they tried to get Ashcroft to authorize while hospitalized

the Program Gonzalez and Card tired circumventing Comey with. They went ahead with it, unauthorized.

"Minutes later, Gonzales and Card arrived with an envelope filled with the requisite forms. Ashcroft, even in his stupor, did not fall for their heavy-handed ploy. "I'm not the attorney general," Ashcroft told Bush's men. "There"—he pointed weakly to Comey—"is the attorney general." Gonzales and Card were furious, departing without even acknowledging Comey's presence in the room. The following day, the classified domestic spying program that Comey found so disturbing went forward at the demand of the White House—"without a signature from the Department of Justice attesting as to its legality," he testified.

What was the mysterious program that had so alarmed Comey? Political blogs buzzed for weeks with speculation. Though Comey testified that the program was subsequently readjusted to satisfy his concerns, one can't help wondering whether the unspecified alteration would satisfy constitutional experts, or even average citizens. Faced with push-back from his bosses at the White House, did he simply relent and accept a token concession? Two months after Comey's testimony to Congress, the New York Times reported a tantalizing detail: The program that prompted him "to threaten resignation involved computer searches through massive electronic databases." The larger mystery remained intact, however. "It is not known precisely why searching the databases, or data mining, raised such a furious legal debate," the article conceded.

Another clue came from a rather unexpected source: President Bush himself. Addressing the nation from the Oval Office in 2005 after the first disclosures of the NSA's warrantless electronic surveillance became public, Bush insisted that the spying program in question was reviewed "every 45 days" as part of planning to assess threats to "the continuity of our government."

Few Americans—professional journalists included—know anything about so-called Continuity of Government (COG) programs, so it's no surprise that the president's passing reference received almost no attention. COG resides in a nebulous legal realm, encompassing national emergency plans that would trigger the takeover of the country by extra-constitutional forces—and effectively suspend the republic. In short, it's a road map for martial law.

While Comey, who left the Department of Justice in 2005, has steadfastly refused to comment further on the matter, a number of former government employees and intelligence sources .....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19871.htm

[DFW]

106. Here's what I wanna know:

Where did they think they were going to PUT 8 million people?
What do they think they're going to do, rent out Switzerland?

[MilesColtrane]

108. Landfill?

[DFW]

109. If they read enough about the "Endlösung," they might already be looking at sites.

[eShirl]

119. "Showers."

[nadinbrzezinski]

124. Easy... bullets, dead heroes don't talk

and then the mass graves are pretty easy to dig

And hell, to avoid the psych damage to the ones carrying the orders, there is SWORDS... robots don't think

[C_U_L8R]

110. We are an army 8 million strong

Just try and and contain us, you republican f*cks.
We will overwhelm you.

[RoccoR5955]

114. They're gonna have to catch me before they put me....

...in any concentration camp. I will NOT go willingly.
They will not survive this.

The revolution will NOT be televised.

[robertpaulsen]

116. Looks like you and I are on the same wavelength, kpete!

Are you one of the 8 million Americans listed in Main Core? This is the 21st century Rex 84!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3310871

Thanks for keeping this important story in the spotlight!

[fascisthunter]

118. Fear..... Well, If They See Regular People That Much of a Threat

They'll be living in a hell they created for themselves till the day they pass.

[spanone]

123. i'd be proud to be on their list.....

[earth mom]

126. Betcha every DUer is on that list!

:grr:

[vinylsolution]

127. Here's the next activity that will be banned:

[reprehensor]

128. Mark Crispin Miller doesn't sound...

that far off to me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=134544&mesg_id=134544

[davekriss]

173. Agreed

There is a very real risk of another false flag event and marshal law. If McCain cannot narrow the margin to within 10 points (which he should be able to do, given the coming tsunami of what MCM calls "black" propaganda), and thus establish a plausibility of a surprise election day "win", then all bets are off and we will be in for a very bumpy ride.

There's that old Confucian curse: "May you live in interesting times!" Indeed -- and unfortunately -- we do.

[kestrel91316]

131. I consider the list to be a list of PATRIOTS, and inclusion in it a

badge of honor.

I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.---- Thomas Jefferson

[billyoc]

132. I DREAM of a country where there are 8 million people dangerous enough to be on such a list.

This ain't it. :(

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. Hate to disagree with you, but there are

in a 300+ million population this is less than Rush's listener base

[rhett o rick]

139. Can one volunteer to be on the list?? nm

[MadMaddie]

145. This is the * Republican "Preemptive Strike" plan against

Americans...this my friends is Treason against the state.

I suppose all of us on DU are probably on the list.....oh well...

[jazzjunkysue]

149. With approval numbers like his, I'm not surprised he's got a contingency

for an organized overthrow.

But they underestimate Canada if they think Canada will go along with it. That's a real free country.

[jeff30997]

150. "enemies of the state"

It reminds me of the movie with Will Smith.:scared:

[Leo 9]

151. Results 1 - 10 of about 2,150 for cog "rex 84".

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,150 for cog "rex 84". (0.31 seconds)

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10-Year U.S. Strategic Plan For Detention Camps Revives Proposals ...Mar 1, 2006 ... These so-called "Continuity of Government" or COG proposals included ... North's controversial Rex-84 "readiness exercise" for COG in 1984. ...
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BRISHON.COM: Article / REX-84, "La Reconqistas" & AMERIKASince 9/11 shadow government and CoG programs that were outlined in Rex-84 have been activated, including mass warrantless wiretapping of American citizens. ...
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The Disaster Agency. (FEMA) | 100777.comFEMA coordinated Rex-84 with the military's Night Train 84 operations, which deployed .... Under COG, FEMA has the last word in national eschatology. ...
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[happygoluckytoyou]

152. YOU FOOLS... YOU COMMENTED ON THIS SITE... YOU ARE NOW---> ON THE LIST ! ! !

[happygoluckytoyou]

153. GET EVERYONE YOU KNOW ON THE LIST.... WHEN THE LIST IS THE MAJORITY, WE WIN

[a la izquierda]

163. eh...

the amount of trouble i have while traveling, i figured i had to be on some list.
My husband only had trouble traveling after he married me. I have the easiest time getting into Mexico and the worst time getting back into the US. What the hell do they think I'm doing down there? I'm a 5' tall chick?? Oh, right, fomenting revolution. Bastards had me pinned all along.

[Krashkopf]

169. I did a FOIA request on myself . . .

And was disappointed to find that I was NOT on any list.

I would consider it to be an HONOR to be on the "enemies list" of a neo-fascist dictator like George W. Bush.

[rasputin1952]

172. How do I get on the "List", I've e-mailed bush and some

of his cronies on numerous occasions, nothing horrendous, and i'd certainly never send threats or anything like that, but if he ever read any of them, he'd know I was pretty sick of his stupidity and shenanigans...:D

Come to think of it, I might just have gotten on it now...:rofl:

[Toucano]

178. Smells like psych ops to me.

"The database can identify and locate perceived 'enemies of the state' almost instantaneously."

The U.S. government couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the heel!

Identify and locate my ass!

[Perry Logan]

184. President Obama/Clinton must IMMEDIATELY declare martial and arrest all Republicans.

They started it.

[katty]

186. i'm sure i'm on it---bla,bla,bla

[madmusic]

187. Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans,

Rule by fear or rule by law?

SF Chronicle Submissions

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL