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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 AM
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Oliver North is in protective custody at FOX.
He is free to run the halls of Murdoch's Empire, bloviating along with Hannity and his buddies, chit-chatting with all their pretty bobbleheads, being a "history buff" will all their on-air personalities.

But he dare not roam beyond those protective walls.

If he were to ever venture outside the warm embrace of Rupert's House, someone might ask him a question about "negotiating with Iran", and not be talking about Barak Obama.

It's a shame, really, because he is an expert, with a famous first hand perspective.


This article, complete with links and video clips, is at Crooks and Liars for anyone who wants the 411 on Oliver North's unique perspective!!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/19/oliver-north-fox-news-appeasing-emboldening-revisionistorian/

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
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1. Will anyone ask him what happened in Okinawa?
David Hackworth on Oliver North
http://www.airborne-ranger.com/ranger/wannabees/OllieNorth.html


Between 1969 and 1974 he spent most of his time in offices and classrooms and on training assignments. In late 1974 he again took charge of troops when he became a company commander, as a captain, on Okinawa. Just 29 days into the assignment, North--described to me by a follow officer who saw him at the time as an "emotional wreck"--surrendered his command.

He returned to the U.S., where he spent as much as three weeks at Bethesda Naval Hospital for some deep-shrinking by psychiatrists. The episode is shrouded in mystery. North himself is vague about it in Under Fire, his autobiography published reports that parts of his medical record were expunged. Meanwhile, there have been published reports (which North never legally challenged) that provide details about the apparent nervous breakdown. In one account he ran around naked, babbling incoherently and waving a .45 pistol.

I asked him about his emotional problems on the radio and he did not want to talk about them. Voters in Virginia should ask him about this and demand to see his Marine medical record. Watch him say it's secret because of national security. Hell, he may believe it himself.

North never afterward commanded troops. For the rest of his career he was a staff wienie--and by all accounts a good one, if sometimes voerzealous.

"You had to keep an eye on him or he would get everyone in trouble," an officer who worked with him told me.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:49 AM
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5. I gotta ask..
Who's his Daddy? Why has he gotten such kid glove treatment (I mean besides "taking the fall" for the Reagan Administration.) 1974 was during Nixon...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:08 AM
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8. He was Poppy's guy....n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:16 AM
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11. But why?... Joe Misc. doesn't come into Poppy's good
graces because he "likes his face".. Or did he just do the dirtiest stuff on demand...?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:18 AM
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12. Yep, probably there was tons of dirt on him...
and Poppy picked him out of the crowd as a likely stooge.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:09 AM
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9. I know somebody who was his neighbor in Leesburg VA..
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:09 AM by Virginia Dare
before all of the Iran/Contra stuff. She said he was actually pretty normal back then, but his psychological problems probably contributed to his being "chosen" by Poppy as a go-to guy.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
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2. Do they let him run, armed and in the nude, through the halls?
That's what he did when he lived in Alexandria, VA.

Those were good times.

--p!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:49 AM
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6. Under Hannity's desk, most likely.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 AM
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3. A TRAITOR and disgrace to the uniform of the United States Marines
Fox News's one and only employee who is a veteran of military service, and it turns out to be a chickenshit TRAITOR. Ollie needs to put that gun to his again, only this time he needs to pull the trigger.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 AM
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4. Oliver North, the teary-eyed Alfred E. Newman look-alike.
What a total jerk.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:01 AM
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7. Fox idolizes those who subvert The Constitution of the U.S. How much do you suppose their audience,
patriots one an all, will object to that? NOT!!!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:11 AM
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10. It really makes you wonder when criminals like this..
and G. Gordon Liddy are given a media forum, but yet, they served their masters well, I guess this is their reward.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:50 AM
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13. Oliver North Questioned - Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra

(Celerino Castillo III, one of the Drug Enforcement Agency's most prolific agents, who netted record busts in New York, Peru, Guatemala, El Salvador and San Francisco, was ordered not to investigate US-sponsored drug trafficking operations supervised by Oliver North. After twelve years of service, Castillo has retired from the agency, "amazed that the US government could get away with drug trafficking for so long." In his book Powderburns: Cocaine, Contras, and the Drug War , Castillo details the US role in drug and weapons smuggling, money laundering, torture, and murder, and includes Oliver North's drug use and dealing, and the training of death squads in El Salvador and Guatemala by the DEA.)

PSYCHOTIC OLLIE NORTH: COKE DEALER
Jack Blum, Special Prosecutor for Senator John Kerry's (D-Mass) Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations told the SHADOW: "There is no doubt in my mind that Oliver North knew about narcotics trafficking at Ilopango." The Committee interviewed dozens of pilots who openly detailed the "guns down, drugs up" operation. One such pilot, Michael Palmer, indicted for bringing 300,000 lbs. of marijuana into the US in the mid 1908's, frequently boasted to prosecutors that his activities were supported by the US government.

During Kerry's investigation, Castillo was ordered by the DEA's Freedom of Information Office to keep his reports on the Contras active, thereby rendering them inaccessible to the Committee and the press. Lacking Castillo's reports, the Committee still concluded in 1989 that: "There was substantial evidence of drug smuggling through the war zones on the part of individual Contras, contra pilots, mercenaries who worked with the Contras and the Contra supporters in the region."

Tim Ross, a twenty-one year veteran broadcaster for the BBC in Colombia, connected what he called "Ollie North's mob" to drug dealing in that country as well. Ross told the SHADOW that "In late '84, early '85, North brought five Afghani military advisers to Colombia on a speaking tour, three left, two stayed. The two that stayed were chemists who introduced heroin manufacturing to Colombia. He also brought in an Israeli agronomist who helped to cultivate opium poppies."...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2403598
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2396787
Radar Online: The Last Roundup >> Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?

YouTube - Oliver North Questioned - Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:13 AM
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14. "So what if I gave the evil Iranians our US Hawk Missiles." - Ollie
"I bet our pilots and soldiers will have no trouble dodging them when Commander AWOL and VP Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney unleash them to Expand the WAR PROFITS CRUSADE. Smirk."

-- Ollie

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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:20 AM
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15. Actually, Ollie has been free-lancing lately for that other "fair and balanced" news Network

CBN "News"
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:36 PM
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18. Robertson and North have an interesting history...
dating back to Nicaraguan 'Death Squads' and PsyOps:

"Nicaragua Freedom Fund"
Following this advice to the letter, the White House brought together a coalition of "retired" military men and right-wing millionaires to support the "Nicaragua Freedom Fund," chaired by Wall Street investment executive William Simon. Contributors included famlllar rlght-wing figures like TV evangelist Pat Robertson, Colorado beer baron Joseph Coors, oil magnate Nelson Bunker Hunt, singer Pat Boone, and Soldier of Fortune magazine. The Fund claimed to raise over $20 million through activities such as a $250-a-plate "Nlcaraguan refugee" dinner in April 1985 attended by Casey and Slmon and featuring a speech by Reagan. In reality, the Fund was a propaganda front, spending almost as much money as it raised. An audit of the "refugee dinner" showed it had raised $219,525 but costs totaled $218,376, including $116,938 in "consulting fees."

The main purpose of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund was to divert attention from the covert channels through which real money flowed to the contras in violation of the Boland Amendment. One of those channels was a specialized PR firm, International Business Communications, which pleaded guilty in 1987 to fraud by using a tax-exempt foundation to raise funds to arm the contras. It had been a profitable business, according to the Iran/Contra congressional investigating committee, which concluded that IBC had kept about $1.7 million of the $5 million it channeled to the contras.
The other part of the PR plan-setting up a "communications function within the White House"-put Raymond at the head of a newly created "Office of Public Diplomacy for Latin America and the Caribbean.'' "Public diplomacy" was simply another synonym for public relations. In its first year alone, reported Parry and Kornbluh the activities of the OPD included "booking more than 1,500 speak mg engagements, including radio, television, and editorial board interviews; publishing three booklets on Nicaragua, and distributing materials to 1,600 college libraries, 520 political science faculties, 122 editorial writers, and 107 religious organizations. Special attention was given to prominent journalists." In 1985, for example, a memo by OPD staffer Otto Reich described using a "cut-out" (someone whose tie to the OPD was concealed) to set up visits by contra leader Alfonso Robelo to news organizations including Hearst Newspapers Newsweek, Scripps-Howard Newspapers, the editorial board of the Washington Post, USA Today, CNN, the "MacNeil-Lehrer Report," the "Today Show" and CBS Morning News.

In private memos to the National Security Council, the OPD boasted also of having "killed" news stories that contradicted the Reagan administration's public position on Nicaragua, using tactics that included intimidation and character assassination of journalists. Using $400,000 raised from private donors, the OPD funded organizations such as Accuracy In Media, a right-wing organization that vigorously attacked journalists who criticized Reagan's foreign policy. In July 1985, the OPD itself helped spread a scurrilous story that some American reporters had received sexual favors from Sandinista prostitutes in return for writing slanted stories...

*Toxic Sludge is Good for You* -about PR in Media - Democratic Underground

Know your BFEE: The Fellowship ‘Preys’ for America - Democratic Underground
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:24 AM
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16. And he was a criminal
just like Kissinger
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:40 AM
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17. he is a criminal at large - still doing dirty work for poppie
nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:43 PM
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19. He is a criminal walking free. There are a lot of those in America.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:55 PM
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20. K&R
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:14 PM
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21. can't resist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0HghTsU4UI

Ollie North! Ollie North!
He's a Soldier!
and a Hero!
and a Novelist!
and now he's on Fox Noooooooz!
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