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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:54 PM
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I've noticed something about Marijuana and the likes of the O'Reilly's and Hannity's of the world...
I've noticed that most of the male public figures that are of my generation ie Babyboomers (born between 1946 & 1960 or so) who repeatedly suggest that they never smoked pot and that none of the people they knew smoked pot or some such nonsense fall into a very specific category.

No one wanted to get high with them.

Anyone else notice that? You might know someone from High School or College to this day, that was always "straight laced" and now they are a rabid right winger. Is it any surprise they turned out the way they did?

If you smoked when you were younger, would you have EVER wanted to share a Doob with the likes of a young Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity?

They never got high or knew anyone that DID get high because no one that GOT high wanted to be around them.

I realize this is not a grand revelation, it's just something I've been pondering for quite a while.

I mean, the last fucking guy in the world I could imagine having a couple of beers and a Bong hit with is someone like Dennis fucking Prager.

It's just more evidence that the last 30% might not only be unreachable, but are the ones we don't want to bother with anyway.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:58 PM
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1. Reefer would have freed their minds and we know reich wingers cannot
have free minds. You could have shared a doob with Billo only if it was shaped like a loofah.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:00 PM
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4. Oh well. I look more like a Saguaro Cactus than a Loofah.
I have more than 2 arms and they mostly point up.

I hate that.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:58 PM
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2. Yes, I think most of the extreme people are people who felt snubbed
while they were growing up. Now, the use the power and influence to propel hate. Its part of their ego. Also, notice those who lead the charge with the "family values" are usually those who lead private lives that are quite the opposite... Somehow their shame in their selves is propelled onto the general population.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:13 PM
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15. Cops n/t
n/t
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:39 PM
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19. yes, that would be another group. Not all of them, but quite a few get off on the power.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:00 PM
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3. Does Limbaugh claim he never got stoned and doesn't know anyone who did?
If so, he's lying. He was a rock DJ.



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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:03 PM
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7. I don't recall Limbaugh ever saying so, but how he feels about recreational drug use....
is as two faced as it gets.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:02 PM
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5. You don't really believe they never ever smoked pot? Oliely himself
stated a couple of years ago that its not so much that marijuana is as bad as drugs like coke and the like but the stuff they smoke these days verses "HIS DAY" could be construed as hard drugs simply because most of it is laced with harder drugs to make it more potent..

they have all gotten high, don't doubt it, more than likely most of them still do.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:19 PM
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17. Not at all.
As I said, its more that nobody that got high wanted to get high with THEM.

I understand what you're saying, but my point is that the negative attitude towards safe, recreational drug use held by those members of my generation is in large part due to being excluded, either socially, intentionally or in any way from a group, to one degree or another when they were younger.

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:52 PM
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24. More than likely that is the truth of the matter regarding those certain individuals.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:02 PM
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6. Neidermeyers.
Here's a neat little essay I found while googling to find good descriptions of why O'Reilly, Hannity, et al, remind me of that Animal House character who epitomizes fascist bullies everywhere.

http://www.swans.com/library/art11/rmac31.html
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:06 PM
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12. Yeah,
and he got fragged by his own men in Vietnam.....
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:03 PM
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8. imagine the paranoia level those 2 would have if they got high? It would be hilarious
if you were there with them. I had a friend who always got the paranoids when she got high, at first it was kind of a buzzkill but as time went on it became a great source of amusement for me.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:03 PM
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9. I would have smoked up even jerks like that if they had asked.
It's just policy.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:07 PM
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13. Of course
They're the guys who hold onto a joint, puffing and sucking it in and claiming they "don't feel a thing."

Then they have a giggling fit and pass out.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:45 PM
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23. That's them all right.
Or they get panicky and vomit from anxiety attacks.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:03 PM
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10. Because they'd narc on you! n/t
:smoke:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:05 PM
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11. Would you want Hannity's or O'Reilly's lips on your bong?
I know I wouldn't.

Besides, I have another, albeit, weaker theory. They did get high. It's just after O'Reilly got high, he'd pull out a loofah and/or falafel and wanted to do strange things. After Hannity got high he realized what a loser he was and just got super paranoid. And after Limbaugh got high he left pot behind and went on to the harder stuff like painkillers.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:10 PM
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14. O'Reilly was the kid who'd get all high and act like a real jerk
then it stuck that way
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:16 PM
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16. None of them could get laid during the "Summer of Love"..
They were afraid to eat the acid, though they needed it the most. :smoke:

:rofl:
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:24 PM
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18. Good Point Heretic...I'd be proud to "Blast-off" with you anytime.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 09:24 PM by BlueJazz
:)
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:41 PM
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20. i always just assumed they were lying, you know, lies are a habit with them
maybe it's believable in the 60s but there's no way that anyone in the 70s "never" smoked pot, it just couldn't happen, i don't care how unpopular you were
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:48 PM
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21. Big hole in your theory.
I've never smoked pot, never wanted to, never seen the point of it. Of course, people I KNEW did, but that didn't mean I wanted to.

This got me ridiculed a lot, and made me unpopular with some people. I didn't give a shit.

But I've also never been a rabid or even a mild right winger. And I do have plenty of friends, of all kinds.

It isn't necessary to share a doob or a bong hit with anyone in order to not end up as a subhuman creep.

Then again, maybe you have to be female. :rofl:
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:05 PM
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22. As I specified, "Male" public figures....
But. I'll give you the :rofl:

What you said is true.
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