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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:44 AM
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BUSH Supporting Democrats in Senate - 20 Say Yes to War - names
Edited on Fri May-23-08 12:50 AM by autorank

"The United States Congress needs to pass a responsible war funding bill that does not tie the hands of our commanders," Bush said.

Reuters, 5/22


WHO IN THE SENATE COLLABORATED WITH THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF TO KEEP THIS MURDEROUS WAR GOING?

ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS except McCain and Coburn, who were absent.

How did the DEMOCRATS DO?

Here are the Democrats who support the Bush war and those who don’t


U.S. Senate

There is NO excuse for funding this war. Funding supports Bush and war supporters, the “YEA’s” are Bush supporters. Shame on them. It’s going to take more than one election to keep up this.

Over 4,000 killed in battle, 120 suicides a week for vets of Iraq, 60,000 vets with PTSD (not treated well at all), 40,000 with major injuries, and more suffering for family members -- ENDING THE WAR PROTECTS THE TROOPS.

1.2 million dead Iraqi civilians (due to civil chaos), 5.0 million Iraqi orphans – is this what we call liberation?

Another big win for the ANTI-LIFE PARTY. BE PRO-LIFE, OPPOSE THE WAR






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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:50 AM
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1. Did Obama not vote?
That McCaskill vote is a bit, er, surprising.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:55 AM
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2. Not to me, none of the YEAs surprise me.
Obama was campaigning.

They come up with their excuses, like Levin, Webb, McCaskill, and they go on their merry way not
taking any responsibility for all the death and suffering. There will be a horrible judgement of
history coming very soon for these willing supporters of the war.

Bush and the Republicans are responsible for starting the war but anyone voting to support it
with funding is responsible for the events.

They're just so high and mighty, they justify their collaboration with Bush in myriad ways.
But it all comes down to self deception.

The supporters are made men and women of "The Money Party" - it's all about them and their
lust for whatever gets them through the night.

Sad day, another of many.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:21 AM
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9. I'm surprised he didn't show up to make a point, actually. nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:38 AM
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33. I'm not.

It just this sort of stuff, not really saying anything of substance, which is a hallmark of his speechifying.

None of the Three have any intent on complete withdrawal from Iraq. Some choice. It's all imperialism all the time.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:51 AM
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35. Well, you can always vote for Cynthia McKinney, I suppose.
But I guess she's no longer a Democrat, so if you did that, you'd have to say farewell to all and sundry here, per the DU rules.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:19 AM
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39. You'll have to wait to exile me

until the site declares the candidate sacrosant. Show some patience, the purge will come soon enough.

But yeah, at least Cynthia tells the truth.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:46 AM
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42. No, the site, from what I understand, allows you to support DEMOCRATS for elective office.
You don't have to support "the" Democrat that they choose, or even that the party chooses.

You just can't tout the candidacy of Republicans, Libertarians, Independents, Reform, Green, etc. etc. etc.

I'm not interested in exiling anyone, actually.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:07 PM
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44. You know BO loves to vote"present" and that wasn't an option
He's wishy washy and a fraud and his followers make excuses ..."he's campaigning"

Why bother with that one? He's got it wrapped up, right?:eyes:

That's some mighty potent Kool-Aid
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silverlil Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:39 AM
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23. Fair sumary
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stephinrome Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:42 AM
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29. Obama was there voting on the other 2 amendments!
Edited on Fri May-23-08 03:43 AM by stephinrome
He was there at 11:42am for the vote on the amendment on domestic spending, GI bill, etc (voted YEA)
Roll call: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00137

He was there at 12:08pm for the vote on the amendment on timeline, no torture, no permanent bases (voted NAY)
Roll call: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00138

He was NOT there at 12:29pm for the vote on the amendment funding the war.
Roll call: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00139

Maybe he had to catch a plane. :(

(edited to note that I am NOT a Clinton supporter)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:56 PM
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43. Obama doesn't like going on the record unless he can vote"present"
He's wishy-washy and a fraud

The Great Bamboozler. The Cardboard Messiah:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:
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logosoco Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:43 AM
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34. Time to drop her a little note!!!!!!!!!nt
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:55 AM
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3. My Senator Ben Cardin voted against it. I'm very pleased with this.
I could have doe it better myself.

Ben Cardin

:applause: :headbang: :yourock: :headbang: :applause:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:30 AM
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10. That's a good sign.
What's up with Mikulski. Back in the '80's she rocked.

But Cardin - YES!!!!!
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:33 AM
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21. I don't know. I was wondering the same thing. Mikulski is a Techi.
She's great with Goddard, Hubble and NASA. The last I heard from her on the war was that she wanted to investigate the uses of a clotting factor on troops. Doctors at the main hospitals were complaining that field doctors were over using it and even killing troops with it. The stuff is like 6,000.00 per injection. I think what she wanted to investigate was pharmco profiteering. But I never heard anything about it after that.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:43 AM
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25. I have to send him a Thank You note too. I know that not easy for them do.
I can see where they might feel like they have their political asses hanging out waiting to be shoot off. So when they show courage like this. I like to drop them a note to let them know I support them and they are earning my next vote for them.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:57 AM
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4. The usual suspects- most of which have never seen an issue that they wouldn't sell out
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:58 AM
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5. K & R so that people are aware of names.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:32 AM
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11. Names matter -
:hi:

Who do these guys think they are anyway! What a bunch of creepy plutocrats.

We KNOW that the right, Republicans will always support this garbage. But et tu Quislings?
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:58 AM
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26. names do matter, votes matter, no need for the bs I am seeing posted
on Du lately, facts will always be the winning way to go..
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:59 AM
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6. Just like Ron Paul said:
Dems want to increase domestic spending, Repubs want to increase war spending. The compromise is to increase both. It's not like if you stop the funding the troops will come home. Bush is so invested in keeping the troops there that he will happily give them inadequate armor and protection to keep them in Iraq.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:38 AM
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12. Yep
If you stop all funding for Iraq except that used to leave, then they come home.

What a concept!

I just realized that they love these funding votes. It's an easy YEA whereas an up or down on
continuing would complicate their tiny minds.

btw, a special "Thanks for nothing Levin" shoud out!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:59 AM
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7. So they are still at it are they. Disgusting.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:41 AM
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13. Aren't they, though
I guess they think that there's no after life, there's no fairly counted election in their futures,
the people of the United States will never find out the horrors and lies of this war, and that there's
no frigging Santa Claus for deliberate supporters of the very worst president ever.

They live in a "gated community" of their limited notion of reality, at the corner of Dumb and Dumber.

Other than that, how's life;)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:47 AM
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16. How's life? Pretty much dead for now.
:hi:
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:11 AM
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8. The traitor salazar, of course, supports the criminal war.
My Senator, that I am ashamed to admit I worked very hard to elect, has never stopped betraying the good people of Colorado. He sat at the right hand of the criminal albierto gonzales in his ag confirmation hearings, for which I will never forgive ken. I will work tirelessly to end his career we he is up for re-election. His staff will get an earful from me in the morning. They know me well, unfortunately.

The scumbag Salazar makes it all the more imperative that we ensure the election of a very good man, Mark Udall, to the Senate from Colorado this year. I am more sure that Mark is actually a Democrat. I will be working hard for him.

Donate if you can.

http://www.markudall.com/
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:44 AM
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14. Excellent - a challenge for one of thlem.

Well my so-called Senators, Warner (John, not Mark) and Webb shamed themselves again.

Not the people of Virginia though, because a fat majority of us want the war over.

Webb has some great points like income equity, rather than inequity, and uniting black and
white working class citizens against the common enemy, the ultra rich. But he keeps voting
yes on this damn war funding.

Thanks for helping rid us of Ken and Ken-ismo (gotta be "tough")
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:46 AM
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15. What is Webb's excuse?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:27 AM
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18. Support the troops, especially if his son is still there? That's all I have. nt
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:15 AM
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28. Yeah, that's my guess. But I would like to hear Webb spell out his reasoning too.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:30 AM
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20. Since there's no excuse, he doesn't have one.
But it's convoluted and out to lunch.

Not that they care much, but Virginia Democratic leaders had better get a grip.

430,000 thousand primary voters in 2004, 950,000 in 2008.

Those were the folks who stay home. They were making a point.

I want Northern Virginia to secede from the rest of the state. I'm sure Thomas Jefferson and the
others suggested it somewhere.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:54 AM
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17. Wisconsin's senators voted no.
We can always count on Feingold- but Kohl is unpredictable. Good that he got it right this time.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:28 AM
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19. Biden absent? nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 AM
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22. My bad...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 02:35 AM by autorank
:spank:

He voted YEA! What a guy! He has all sorts of stupid reasons that make no sense to anyone
but a lame Senator, in the twilight of our decline.

I firmly believe that you could randomly select 550 or so citizens for the House and Senate,
put them in office with protections against any "rewards," bring them up to speed, and we'd have
about 60% of our problems solved in no time and a blueprint for the larger ones, in short order
after that.

We need to stop paying people who make stupid votes. Maybe have a "penalty box" like hockey.

:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:40 AM
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24. No, we need different questions from a different president and a
composition of different Congresscritters, mostly Dems.
I guarantee you if we had a Dem in office, with a majority of Dems in Congress, this would not be the question. We'd be trying to extricate ourselves. It's all about protecting the troops, same as it's always been. That's why Biden and Webb are pro-. They both have family lives on the line to do the right thing in their eyes. I can disagree, but I have no one over there to fight for.

I'm holding my breath til 09 and hoping this will all change. Yes, I'm a sap and an optimist. So sue me! :pals:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:02 AM
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27. Sue, heck, I'll just give you a large reward for all you do.

I would like to sue the creeps for failing to do their jobs.

We can :toast: to that - optimist and cynic (in the classical sense) together, united by a beverage;)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:17 AM
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32. I am holding my breath too and getting kind of dizzy
I just want these thugs to go.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:13 AM
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31. yea, why is Biden not there, these guys were voting for
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:24 AM by alyce douglas
so many amendments yesterday, but both of my Senators from RI voted NO.

I don't understand this Biden voted Yes.

read this

Question: On the Motion (Motion to Concur to the House Amendment No. 1 to the Senate Amdt. with Amdt. No. 4818 )
Vote Number: 139 Vote Date: May 22, 2008, 12:29 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 4818 to H.R. 2642 (Military Construction and Veterans Affairs and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:04 AM
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30. what the hell is wrong with these people?
dear "democratic" senators,
thank you, once again, for funding bush's dirty little war. our country needs this war to continue if we are to stay polarized here at home. besides, how else could we justify the price of oil? your swift move to keep america's soldiers in harms way will definitely serve to keep some of the spotlight off the bush white house and administration (and other illegal activities they have been involved with--that we just can't seem to prosecute them on). besides, it's always entertaining to see good "democrats" (such as yourselves) stand up and speak out against the will/wishes of the people who elected you. naturally you'll have to throw your constituents a bone in the weeks/months ahead in order to take some of the sting away from the slap in the face war funding vote in order for them to experience that mild form of amnesia that you depend on for reelection. but i'm sure that won't be too much of a problem.


p.s.
as usual, FUCK YOU!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:54 AM
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36. "America has one political party with two right wings" - Gore Vidal
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:56 AM
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37. John Cornyn must've been busy rubbing shoulders with Pastor Hagee
nt
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:58 AM
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38. Why is McCaskill mentioned twice?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:17 PM
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45. She liked it so much she voted twice;) My error. Mikulski should have been there.
And that's a shocker. She was unbelievably liberal in the 80's. Now this.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:36 AM
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40. It seems many of the Dems elected in the 2006 mid-terms have voted
to fund the war.
I wonder why?:shrug:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:22 PM
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46. I've wondered why also.
I'd like to see someone look into who funded these folks. They really pulled a bait and switch.

There were 8 really good Democrats running in Florida - anti war, pro health care etc.

You know how much money they got from the Florida Democratic Party and the DCCC? Nothing, except one
$1500 contribution to one candidate. They all lost. The last minute converters from Republican to
Democrat who ran for Congress got plenty of money, and they won.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:41 AM
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41. DLC loves the military industrial complex
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:28 PM
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47. Akaka caved?!
Senator "In-Your-Way" I'd expect, but not Akaka! :grr:
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