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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:38 PM
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Juicy email about John McCain
Edited on Fri May-23-08 12:56 PM by Betsy Ross
For the relative that forwards BS email messages about Obama, I would like some simple messages which identify the BS which is John McCain's campaign. Any links would be appreciated.

On edit: Thanks for the good resources.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:41 PM
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1. mccainpedia?
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:46 PM
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6. Thanks. Great Stuff. eom
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:41 PM
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2. Start with snopes.com
Edited on Fri May-23-08 12:41 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
Many of the Obama emails, especially those about him being a radical Muslim, have been debunked there. When you cite snopes, give a link AND post the article as well. Too many emails are going around saying that "snopes verifies this as true" when that is not the case at all. When I post, I hit "reply all".

When you get McCain stuff to reply with, be sure to cite sources and to give links. Make your tone earnest and sincere.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:42 PM
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3. Robert Greenwald's site - The Real McCain
http://therealmccain.com/

There's lots there for you to gather.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:43 PM
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4. He's a liar, for starters...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3331158&mesg_id=3331158

And for someone who scorns lobbyists, he sure is surrounded by them: he's had to let 5 (?) employees go in the past week, and then there's this from today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3330882&mesg_id=3330882

If you do a search in GD on lobbyists, there's lots more.

And finally, there's this, his connection to Chalibi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3326945&mesg_id=3326945
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:55 PM
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9. Chalabi wouldn't cut it.
There are some that still think he was/is our friend. But the other links are great. Forwarded some of the messages.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:45 PM
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5. And P.S. - The new book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter
It's a small book but chock full of info about McCain. I wrote a short review in DU's non fiction forum. :D

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=209x6440
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:49 PM
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7. Excellent resources. Let's keep this kicked and recommended.
NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:58 PM
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13. .
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:32 PM
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16. .
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:23 PM
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17. .
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:53 PM
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8. k&r. . . . n/t
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:00 PM
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10. Former POW, "Why I Will Not Vote For McCain"
this was posted in the editorial section. It's an article by a retired navy guy who roomed across the hall from McCain at the academy and ended up a POW in Viet Nam 3 years before McCain. It's a very good read.

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:17 PM
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11. Here's one. No idea as to accuracy.


In 1984, as a Member of the House of Representatives, John McCain gave a speech in Congressman Duncan Hunter’s San Diego district.

At the end of the speech a woman approached Representative McCain and introduced herself as the wife of a Marine pilot shot down and still missing in Southeast Asia. She asked Congressman McCain if he could help her find information on her husband’s case.

Eyeing the attractive woman, the married McCain replied,“Why don’t you ride with us and have dinner?”

Congressman Hunter and an aide sat in the front seat of the car; McCain and this woman in the back as they drove to Hunter’s house. Not long into the short ride, McCain ran his hand up the woman’s skirt. Stunned, she pushed him away and resisted his advances. He continued trying to grab her, even after she moved as far away from him as possible.

As this time, McCain’s wife, Cindy, was pregnant.

Disgusted over his behavior she left as soon as they arrived at Duncan Hunter’s place. She promptly told the two Vietnam veterans who had originally encouraged her to try to see McCain about her missing husband’s case that night.

Years later a Senate Ethics Committee complaint was filed over this incident. In that complaint, the woman was quoted as saying that Congressman McCain used “unreasonable force in a hostile manner.” But the Senate Committee, then chaired by Mitch McConnell, claimed not to have jurisdiction over a matter that took place when McCain was in the House.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:22 PM
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12. One more...
I think maybe this list deserves it's own thread and we could grow it to 1000 lines easily.




John McCain

1. Was for negotiating with Hamas before he was against it.
2. Graduated near the bottom–790th out of 795–of his class in 1958.
3. Admittedly knows nothing about economics
4. 100 years of war
5. Was for amnesty before he was against it before he was for it again.
6. Old enough to remember the Great Depression. Dumb enough to be unable to prevent the next one.
7. In favor of embryonic stem cell research.(Baby killer)
8. Funded by George Soros and Teresa Heinz Kerry.
9. Was against tax cuts for the wealthy before he was for them.
10. Fraternized with the mafia.
11. Covered up wifes drug addiction.
12. Engaged in wire and bankruptcy fraud with the Keating Five.
13. Cheated on his wife, then dumped her to remarry for money (To Cindy "pills" Hensley, who funded his political career).
14. Spent several million of our tax dollars on military backup so he could buy a rug in a baghdad market.
15. Falsely claimed to be baptist to gain political favor -- was never baptized.
16. Attacked POW/MIA activists and called then "craven", "despicable", "zealots".
17. Renounced his country to the communists under torture
18. Gave up military secrets to the communists
18. Voted to allow CIA to use torture
19. Admits he has poor judgment
20. Campaign run by Washington lobbyists.
21. Does not know the difference between Sunni and Shi'ia.
22. Believes in Bush's "war as a first resort" policy
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:05 PM
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14. Bookmarking.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:08 PM
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15. Courtesy of your friends at FOX NEWS.....
Sen. John McCain has long presented himself as that rare bird in politics: an inveterate straight-shooter. But does campaign strain have McCain’s Straight Talk Express veering off course?

A string of incidents stemming from the senator’s two presidential runs suggests he’s no less fallible than any other candidate — and just as capable of adjusting facts to suit his purpose.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/22/trail-of-tall-tales-john-mccain/


Remind your relative that, if its in Fox News it MUST be true...
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:36 AM
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18. Great thread! Bookmarking for excellent links. k r
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:44 AM
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19. K&R
And bookmarking. Awesome, everyone!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:28 PM
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20. cindy mccain .......tom gosinski
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cindy+mccain+tom+gosinski+arizona+republic&btnG=Google+Search

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ALu26ea_CN8J:www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter8.html+cindy+mccain+tom+gosinski+arizona+republic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us




http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/drugs/index.html

By Amy Silverman


Oct. 18, 1999 | PHOENIX -- GOP presidential candidate John McCain's wife Cindy took to the airwaves last week, recounting for Jane Pauley (on "Dateline") and Diane Sawyer (on "Good Morning America") the tale of her onetime addiction to Percocet and Vicodin, and the fact that she stole the drugs from her own nonprofit medical relief organization.

It was a brave and obviously painful thing to do.

It was also vintage McCain media manipulation.


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/drugs/print.html




http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs

You're U.S. Senator John McCain, and you've got a big problem.
Your wife, Cindy, was addicted to prescription painkillers. She stole pills from a medical-aid charity she heads and she used the names of unsuspecting employees to get prescriptions.


The public is about to find out about it.
Until now, you've managed to keep it all quiet. When Tom Gosinski, a man your wife fired, sued for wrongful termination and threatened to expose the whole sordid story, you didn't hesitate to call in the big guns.

John Dowd, the attorney who got you out of your Keating Five mess, worked on getting your wife a sweetheart deal with federal prosecutors. He also made Gosinski's lawsuit go away.

He didn't stop there.
To help maintain your reputation and discredit your wife's accuser, Dowd called Maricopa County Attorney Richard Romley and complained that Gosinski was trying to extort money. Romley, your Republican ally, promptly launched an extortion investigation.



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